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Molossus
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Hi Guys,

after some tests, I've discovered to be a A+ Teacher. I want to heal my IBS, so I'm following the GTD strictly for 1 week.

Since I've started the GTD my IBS seems to have worsened. I have 2 big problems:

1) I have chronic diarrhea (at least 2-3 times a day, usually concentrated in the early morning with almost liquid stools).  

2) After the evacuations in the early morning I feel better for some hours. Then, from mid afternoon (or just after lunch) till the end of the day my bowel starts to spin more and more wildly causing me severe bloating, flatulence and, obviously, discomfort.

I take symbiotic for 2 months, but I believe that symbiotic are not the problem.

It's really a critical moment for me, I can not live a normal life with these problems and I don't know if it's right to continue with the diet.

I hope that you can help me.

Thanks  
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Want to list what you are eating? Is it any worse after a particular food?
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No worse after a particular food.

I eat only the recommended food list in the Teacher diet in the GTD book.

Following you find a list of the foods that I usually eat:
emmer, kamut, brown rice, oatmeal, cod, tuna, salmon, turkey, eggs, Parmesan, olive oil, nuts, peas, beans, onions, carrots, endive, honey, jam, pineapple, kiwi, lemon, melon, nectarine, blueberries...these are the main ones.

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Have a look at getting Swami it makes life so much easier.


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"olive oil, (some) nuts, peas, (some) beans, onions, carrots, honey, jam, pineapple, kiwi, lemon, melon, nectarine, blueberries..." are all high in salicylates, which can cause bowel (or skin) problems in some people...Brown rice can also cause problems that way too You could try googling salicylates & see if anything makes sense in that regard to you
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Hi Guys,

after some tests, I've discovered to be a A+ Teacher. I want to heal my IBS, so I'm following the GTD strictly for 1 week.
symbiotic for 2 months


why just one week? Undoing years of abuse takes way longer then this.
Your gut flora needs some work.

You will need some supplements to rebuild your flora.

What is symbiotic? if it is not polyflora A I suspect it may not make your GI tract better.



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Have you looked into different bowel conditions?  I do not believe that there is actually "IBS"; it is just symptoms stemming from something that doctors can't find   The cause can be different for different people.  Possom already suggested salicylates; there is also SIBO, fructose malabsorption, gluten sensitivity, histamine intolerance...

Chronic diarrhea is obviously caused by something - most likely either a bacterial issue, food intolerance, or both.  Research, research, research   You need to find the answer so that you can get your life back.  Trust me - I completely understand not having a "normal life" because of "IBS", but I am slowly but surely piecing it all together and improving along the way.  The most important thing is to find the source; you can't fix it if you don't know what's broke


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I bought SWAMI some days ago, I'm still waiting for it to arrive.

I'm following the diet for 1 week, because I read the GTD book 2 weeks ago! So I'm only at the beginning of the way.
Anyway, I had no abuse in the last 6-7 years. I did several diets to try to heal my IBS. I'm really tired to follow diets with no results. The GTD will be my last diet. If it works I'll follow it totally, if not, well, I will return to eat any food I like and hope to feel better. If not, I will start to dig my grave  

Symbiotic are a mix of probiotics and prebiotics. They should be really effective, but till now, as always, I see no good results.

Polyflora could be better.

I think that reactions of my body and my guts to this diet are not normal. Too much pain and digestive problems, there is something wrong, but I don't know what.

Sure, my bowel is really stressed after months of diets and pain. I need more stability and better health.  
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Have you looked into different bowel conditions?  I do not believe that there is actually "IBS"; it is just symptoms stemming from something that doctors can't find   The cause can be different for different people.  Possom already suggested salicylates; there is also SIBO, fructose malabsorption, gluten sensitivity, histamine intolerance...

Chronic diarrhea is obviously caused by something - most likely either a bacterial issue, food intolerance, or both.  Research, research, research   You need to find the answer so that you can get your life back.  Trust me - I completely understand not having a "normal life" because of "IBS", but I am slowly but surely piecing it all together and improving along the way.  The most important thing is to find the source; you can't fix it if you don't know what's broke


Yes, IBS is only a medical definition to explain what doctors are not able to decipher.
The body is a complex machine, and the IBS, in my opinion, is the final symptom of a complex problem which involves body, mind, nerves and spirit.
Anyway even if the diet is only a part of the whole picture, it should, at least, improve the situation and not worse it.
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Quoted from Molossus

Anyway even if the diet is only a part of the whole picture, it should, at least, improve the situation and not worse it.


That's only true to an extent.  If, for example, the problem is food related (grain intolerance, fructose malabsorption, salycilates, etc.) BTD alone is not going to address that and continuing to eat foods high in the intolerable substance, even if those foods are considered beneficials, will just allow your symptoms to continue.  BTD is a great place to start and a wonderful lifestyle and way of looking at nutrition, but you still need to figure out what has caused/is causing your symptoms.  As I said, you can't fix it if you don't know what's broken.  I love the example:  if you have a headache because you keep banging your head against a wall, should you take Asprin or stop banging your head against the wall?  You need to find "your wall" so that you can stop banging against it.


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The diarrhea could be caused by many things.  Some of these depend on what your diet looked like prior to the GTD.  
For instance, if you were eating very little fiber prior but have now added significant amounts, it will take time for the gut flora to adapt.  

If the symbiotic you are taking has avoids or is a bacteria for another type, it could be fighting with the "good" foods you are eating.

It is possible that the good foods you are eating are powering your body to dispose of junk and it is doing it rather loudly.

Most likely, it is a combination of these (and probably more).  As you say, the body is a very complex device, so determining all of the factors may be very difficult.


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Rome wasn t built in a day....
healing gets worse, before it gets better
the more fixing you need the longer it takes, yet compliance and applying the right protocols is key

use all Dr D has made available to you in terms of protocols and digestive formulas

address the lectin damage asap


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One week is not long enough to determine if ERFYT is going to work for anyone.
If you are taking a pre and probiotic not designed for Blood Type A, you are most likely going to have digestive issues.

Stay the course, this is a lifestyle not a "diet."


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The wrong pre and probiotics can definately throw things off. Maybe try stopping them for a week to test.


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Thank you guys! Great support!

After some research I think that I will stop the symbiotic therapy. I've read that it contains mainly lactose 1 and I am lactose intolerant!
Could it be the reason of my problems? What do you think?

Can you recommend me the right Dr.D products to heal my bowel and digestive system?
I am A+ Teacher.

Maybe the symbiotic therapy has destroyed my digestive system which was already stressed by IBS.
It seems strange to me that eating so healty (the diet of the Teacher is really light and healty) can cause such big earthquake in the digestive system. The cause should be elsewhere.
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Crowd out the bad gut bacteria with good ones. Polyflora A, gastro D, intrinsia, live cell, deflect...

It might not feel so good as you kill off the bad stuff.


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avoiding the wrong supplements is just as important as avoiding the wrong foods. Glad you figured it out


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Andrea is wise.


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Quoted from Mother
avoiding the wrong supplements is just as important as avoiding the wrong foods. Glad you figured it out
Especially if you are lactose intolerant & they are lactose based?!

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I've read that it contains mainly lactose 1 and I am lactose intolerant!
Could it be the reason of my problems? What do you think?



You can not reduce it to one thing like lactose. It is not that simple gut flora is key to your health and yours is out of whack, getting it back into proper balance will take some work.

Like Lola said you may feel worse before you feel better.

http://journals.lww.com/co-gas.....itable_bowel.15.aspx



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Ok,
I am wondering...there are genotype formulas, blood type formulas and formulas for digestion...there are a lot of products. What are the best for my situation?

Genotype Formulas:

Teacher Activator
Teacher Catalist
Flaxeed Oil Formula
Exacta (multivitamin)
Multimineral

Blood Type Formulas:

Polyvite A
Phytocal A
Polyflora A
Deflect A
Live Cell A

Digestion Formulas:

Intrinsa
Gastro D Complex
Carob Extract
Bromelain
Ara Plus
Ara 6
Hepatiguard

What is the correct protocol for me?
I hope there is no need to take tons of pills...

Thanks  
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Andrea mentions what you need to look at above.

My initial protocol included Gastro D and Poly A. Gastro D has a clay component that I found a tad constipating but I just adjusted the amount.

I found getting my beneficial veggies in a green smoothie very healing. You can search "green smoothie" on this site and get all kinds of ideas. I was working from a SWAMI, which was dialed in for me. Gentle fiber seemed to give me the perfect stool consistency while healing my gut.

I also really liked ghee. You may look at Intrinsa, as Andrea said, as it is formulated to have the same benefits, but also has a cofactor to make it work effectively and I don't know about ghee itself and loose stools.

I like Deflect and Live Cell as well, though I didn't use in the initial stages--they are wonderful.

Best to you. .


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May be you do not need any supplements at this stage. The symtoms, assuming they are part of the healing process, are likely to go in maximum another  few more days. Why not wait and see, and tolerate the symptoms for a few days more?



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I would like to tolerate...but I'm not living...it's an horrible situation, I need to feel better as soon as possible. Anyway, I'll try to tolerate the symptoms for a few more days as you say, Kumar.  

I've got my Swami Xpress today. I've already produce my personlized diet.

I am 43% Teacher and the diet is much larger than the one of the book GTD! I'm really happy!
I have many more superfoods in my diet, especially Wheat, White Flour, Gluten that means PASTA! moreover many more fruits, and many foods which are in the neutral list now (i.e. Basmati Rise which I love, or chicken)

I've not found farmed salmons....do you know if it's the same of the other salmons? In the italian book I can eat all wild salmons, but not farmed salmons...it's weird...

I've tried to do some variations on the Swami. I'not sure of the Upper/Lower leg ratio (but probably upper leg is longer), so I've tried all 3 different options...with lower leg longer I result 42% warrior...that's weird...do you that I should follow only the teacher/swami diet and not consider the warrior option?

In the GTD book I was a Teacher in the test to check the strength of the genotypes.

Thanks also to Andrea, Akart and others for the suggestions
I think that I could certainly start with Polyflora A. For the other products I'll try to check more deeply their function in the next days.
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I've tried to do some variations on the Swami. I'not sure of the Upper/Lower leg ratio (but probably upper leg is longer), so I've tried all 3 different options...with lower leg longer I result 42% warrior...that's weird...do you that I should follow only the teacher/swami diet and not consider the warrior option?

The best answer is to have someone help you.  Have them read the book (or watch the videos) to make sure they get the measurements correct...

Even if you aren't able to verify correct leg ratio measurement, most of the diet will be reasonably accurate based on all of the other information you entered...


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I've not found farmed salmons....do you know if it's the same of the other salmons? In the italian book I can eat all wild salmons, but not farmed salmons...it's weird...

farmed salmon is horrible in terms of nutrition.  Wild-caught salmon is higher in omega-3 and has lived a natural life; whereas farmed salmon has been crowded in poor conditions, fed a poor diet, and been treated with antibiotics.  If farm-raised was my only option, I wouldn't buy it.

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I've tried to do some variations on the Swami. I'not sure of the Upper/Lower leg ratio (but probably upper leg is longer), so I've tried all 3 different options...with lower leg longer I result 42% warrior...that's weird...do you that I should follow only the teacher/swami diet and not consider the warrior option?


are you just guessing or did you actually do the measurements?  You need to do the measurements precisely as described in the book.  If they are difficult to determine because they are very close, have someone else measure and see what they think


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Watch the wheat celebration. Wheat is on the teacher diet, I presume, mainly because wheat germ agglutinin has some anti cancer properties in type A when used in moderation. There are lots of issues with wheat in general, many of which have been discussed ad nauseam (well, maybe we aren't ready to vomit  ) on this board. Try searching "wheat" or "gluten"

I am a former wheat addict. It was one of the main causes of my IBS and gluten sensitivity, I believe. Perhaps the tomato and potato were helping as well.  

The main protein in gluten is not digestible by anyone.

Part of the issue is these little buggers can get in through your intestines and cause a whole host of issues. My main complaint (besides the gut and bacterial overgrowth in the intestine) was brain fog, low energy, and joint issues.

My thought is that an IBS diagnosis means lectin damage. I am not a doctor, but it seems obvious to me from what I've learned through this site and the IFHI CD's that the immature cell lining would be irritated and/or vulnerable.

Wheat also feeds the bad critters in the gut quite well.

Swami Pro has the option of putting things in like "low gluten"-- which Dr. D did for me. It still shows a couple of gluten items, but this is where I use my brain and say pass.  

How does rice rank on your SWAMI? There are some lovely organic rice pastas available...which reminds me to go eat lunch.  


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ditto to all and do ur measurements right! to get the right results.. like done on these vids..

Measuring torso and leg length

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olnmUUVuVMA

Measuring finger length

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65qdAvuNjsc

whats the value of Parmesan on ur SWAMI??
im A+ secretor and a Teacher, Parmesan straight up gives me gas and diarrhea!!
which explains why its an avoid http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?283


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Eat Ghee and try going gluten free for a little bit. You would not be the first teacher who is gluten intolerant on this board.
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Eat Ghee and try going gluten free for a little bit. You would not be the first teacher who is gluten intolerant on this board.


I'll second that


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I respond to all.

About measurements. I've seen the videos many times to be sure to do them right   
I've taken measures many times. I think that my measures are really accurate, but the Upper/Lower leg measure remains not so clear, also looking at the video. Moreover the italian version of the book explain a different method to take the lower leg measure (standing and not seated).
In my case they are very similar (the difference is maximum 1-2 cm) but my last try did the upper longer than the lower...but I'm not sure about the precise point around the kneecap where I should end the measure.

About farmed salmon. I'm not so happy to eat this kind of salmon. I always prefer and eat the wild salmons. But I also love the Japanese restaurant and the grilled salmon which they cook for me but I can not know which kind of salmon they use...that was the reason of my question

About Wheat and Gluten. I think that it is a complex subject. For me, for example, I feel that rice is easier to digest than pasta... But sometimes it seems to me that I am able to digest correctly also pasta and white flour products. In my chronic IBS there is a lot of chaos and it's not always so easy to understand the tolerability of a food.
I ask you a question: I've read that also some other carbo, such as kamut or spelled contains gluten, is it right? So if I should delete gluten products, I should delete also kamut, spelled etc...
I've not found that option "low gluten", where is it in Swami?

About Rice. In my Swami Rice has the following ranking: wild rice and brown rice are superfoods, while the other kind of rice (white, basmati, flour white, puffed) are neutrals. I love the rice pasta, but I've seen that many type of rice-pasta contains gluten...is it the same gluten of the wheat pasta? it could be dangerous?
Anyway Rice is my life preserver. I don't know why Basmati is only neutral, for me it has always been the most digestible food.

About Parmesan. In my Swami it results a superfood with diamond!

About Ghee: What is Ghee??? I can't find the italian translation....help!  
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ask swami for the most indicated sups for you only
or try this if you do not have a swami
http://www.northamericanpharmacal.com/PNC/productguide.html
DPN/NAP provides an online guide to help people in selecting the right supplements.
Designed for touch-screen, but also works via mouse click as well
tell it to print the 'highly recommended' ones.


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About Ghee: What is Ghee??? I can't find the italian translation....help!  
Hi - Ghee is like clarified butter - but much better to make your own (no additives/preservative) plenty of links on here (try the search function on upper top right of page ) It is very healing for gut

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May be you do not need any supplements at this stage. The symtoms, assuming they are part of the healing process, are likely to go in maximum another  few more days. Why not wait and see, and tolerate the symptoms for a few days more?


This is great advice, stop the prebiotic & wait b4 buying more supplements.  I would consider the Polyflora later.
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Ghee - I've found it! In Italy it is called GHI and there is a biological version also in some bio-markets.

About supplements Swami suggests me the Teacher pack (Activator+Catalyst+Synergist) and secondly the basic type A pack (Polyflora, Deflect, Polyvite, Phytocal).

Anyway I'll try to wait some days before taking anything else. I want to see my body evolution without lactose symbiotic.
In the meanwhile I'll try to eat gluten free....I ask you: also kamut and spelt have gluten?  If so, I must eat only rice and cornmeal products (both in the neutrals list, but the brown rice which is in the superfood list).

Maybe just deleting gluten products, chocolate, sugars and tomato which I used to eat very often in my daily diet, I could feel better.

Have a great day
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Kamut and spelt do have gluten.  I would imagine that eliminating gluten and sugar would probably do a lot for you - all you can do is give it a try and see how you feel.  Personally, tomato was a big one for me so that may help as well.  Be careful with corn products as they are very inflammatory.  I agree that it's a good idea to hold off on supplements for now and just see how you react to the dietary changes.  Good luck


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Do you cook for yourself? Make your own Ghee from organic butter.

Do you have white lines in your fingerprints? they would indicate a gluten sensitivity. All you would do is check the box for white lines on your SWAMI

Often people given a green light with wheat end up eating nothing but wheat products thinking they are doing a good thing. Careful with portions.

IBS is complicated....


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"low gluten" is not in SWAMI Xpress as far as the last time I looked. It is in the professional version.

Kamut and spelt are ancient varieties.

Modern wheat has been changed through modern agricultural practices and it's protein content (and gluten) has been increased many fold.

So say your distant ancestor ate a loaf of bread. Eating the same loaf today may be like him eating 12 or 14 loaves in this aspect. (Not sure on the exact number)

If manna bread is on your SWAMI and you don't have white lines or issues with gluten, it is probably something to consider as well.

Gone are my days of baking whole grain wheat bread and adding a tablespoon of gluten to "help" it in the breadmaker.  


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No but white lines are right? so that would give the same results?



MIFHI

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"Healthy people have the least overt symptoms from eating avoid foods." Dr. D'Adamo
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Yes I cook for myself. I can do Ghee by myself.

I have a lot of white lines in my fingerprints. I've already set the Swami with this option, but in my diet I have wheat, white flour and gluten in the superfood  

Anyway I'm doing a personal list with all gluten-free products. I'll try to not exceed with corn products if you tell that they can be infiammatory. I will focus on rice-based products.  

5 years ago, at the beginning of my IBS, I did a gluten-free and lactose-free diet for one month, I felt better in that period, but not completely well, so I decided to stop after 4 weeks. Maybe it was not a great idea
I did not have any other knowledge and I was used to eat a lot of tomato, bananas, chocolate, and did not know anything about kamut, spelt, and other cereals...so maybe I was eating again something wrong also in that period.

Now with the Swami and all this good knowledge I could do the definitive diet. Moreover now there are many more markets where I can buy good products for my diet.

I'm only not so sure about oatmeal flakes, it seems to have gluten, but some recent studies say that they can be tolerated also by persons with celiac desease.
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I would avoid oatmeal for now - avoid all gluten or potential gluten to see how that makes you feel.  Oats are considered gluten free but are usually cross-contaminated and contain gluten.  Some oats actually say "gluten free" on the packaging; if you can find those they should be alright.  Technically all grains (even rice and corn) contain glutens, but people are more likely to react to the glutens in wheat, rye, and barley.

Health can take a lot of detective work.  If you felt better before when eating gluten and lactose-free I would try again and be sure to be very strict about it so that you aren't accidentally eating something that could be causing a reaction.  It takes time and patience, but you're definitely on your way


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Since you have such extreme health issues right now, I'd suggest being extra-strict about avoiding "foods that may or may not be contributing to the problem." Later, once you've healed a lot, you can re-introduct them, one at a time, and see how your body tolerates them.

But don't get so caught up in the "foods to avoid" that you forget to eat! Healing is as much about getting the RIGHT foods into you as it is about avoiding the wrong ones. You need good nutrition to support healing. Make sure to eat plenty of beneficial foods daily, and try to stick to the recomended portion sizes and frequencies.


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Diarrhea can also be a good thing, at times. It can mean bacteria flushes, but a constant state means you are losing the battle or ingesting something your body decides needs to be dealt with there and then.

Swami can not account for specific allergies, at least not the xpress version.

Yes Spelt, Kamut, and most oats contain gluten. Be mindful of sauces and gravies too.
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the recommended portion sizes are weird in some cases...
5 weekly servings x 1 tablespoon of fats and oils are really few...it's really hard to follow. Using oil over rice, fish, meat and veggies is indispensable...at least for me
Can I use a larger portion size of oil?
On the contrary there are other categories with huge weekly or daily servings (i.e live foods).

Can someone help me with this question? http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-xpress/m-1307112375/
My message is the last..

Thanks  
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Many people have complained that the oil portions are too small. A good many of us eat way more oil than recomended by SWAMI. I personally ignore the SWAMI oil portions, although I do try hard to stick to the recomended portions of live foods, meats, etc.

If I find myself 5 lbs over my "goal weight" and not able to lose any more weight, I may cut way back on oil to see if that helps with weight loss. But until that point, oil isn't my concern.


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Molossus,
I started with all the Blood type formulas and kept taking them after swami made me 42% Teacher. I won't do without the polyflora as it keeps everything "working"!!!!
I learned fairly early when following this way of life that cow dairy and gluten were my enemies. Life is so good without them!
Good luck to you on your journey!
Ciao!


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About weight I should gain some kilos, I'm really thin. So I think that I will not count oils until I've reached my goal weight.

Ciao Cajun! It seems that we have very similar blood-mix. Cow dairy and gluten are probably my enemies too. I've started the new diet without enemies and I'll see in the next days if I have an improvement. Anyway I already feel a little better and this is a good sign
Polyflora is the first supplement in my list and I think that I will take it in any case after this first period of diet. For now I want to see how my body responds to the new diet only.

I'd like to ask you one thing.
I've seen that there are a lot of products in the supermarkets here that do not have gluten, but can contain traces of gluten or traces of other cereals which contains gluten. The list is very long and could give a more variety to my diet. Do you think that I could eat these foods?
For now I've bought only certified totally gluten-free products to be sure, but I'd like to have a greater variety in my diet.  

Thank to all of you for the great support
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Italian labeling may be different than here, but a lot of manufacturers produce more than one thing so they will put warning labels such as "manufactured in a facility that processes wheat" -- things like that. I am not celiac or truly allergic so generally these things, I'm not really concerned about. The way they do labels here means they list all ingredients.

Here is an "unsafe" list that might be helpful.
http://www.celiac.com/articles/182/1/Unsafe-Gluten-Free-Food-List-Unsafe-Ingredients/Page1.html

Accidently bought "Farro" the other day because "Fonio" is on my superfood list and I have never seen it (didn't have the list with me) and I got excited. Oops!

Happy shopping. Most of the people here end up with very little prepackaged foods and come back to simple ingredients. Most "gluten-free" foods here contain other avoids.


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What sort of oil are you using? Try using ghee instead.


MIFHI

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"Healthy people have the least overt symptoms from eating avoid foods." Dr. D'Adamo
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The labeling (at least in the U.S.) is more a precaution for the company.  If there is even the slightest chance that a food could be contaminated by an allergen, the company must state that on the packaging so that they aren't sued by anyone.  It's also helpful for consumers who are extremely allergic to certain ingredients, but I think it's more of a legal matter than anything else.  If it says "may contain..." or "made in a facility that processes..." but also states that it is gluten free it should be safe.


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I don't worry so much about the "may contain" or "processed in a facility that also processes..." My own kitchen is a facility that processes milk, and (spelt) gluten, even though I don't eat those!

But be very wary of the actual ingredients in pre-packaged gluten free foods or mixes. There are very, very few gluten-free items that are safe for me. Most GF breads, crackers, cookies, etc, contain flours I can't eat (garbanzo bean, corn, and/or potato) and most contain "avoid"  gums such as xanthan gum, guar gum, or carrageenan. These thickeners are added to give better texture to the finished product, but they're damaging to the gut.

Learn how to cook, and get variety by changing things around, with compliant ingredients, in your own kitchen.


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I didn't read threw all the post but couldn't help but ask. Do you have a gallbladder?  Mine was removed just about five years ago.  Since I have had the same symptoms.  Can't leave the house before 10:30.  My AB diet has helped tremendously.  Still have issues occasionally.  Saw your food list.  Too much fruit could cause the runs.  Just a thought.

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Top four food allergens:  1) Dairy (milk, cheese, etc)  2) Whole grains (esp. wheat)  3)  Beans, nuts, legumes  4)  Citrus fruit.

An overwhelming majority of people in the world have at least minor allergic irritation with any or all of these.
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Quoted from Easy E
Top four food allergens:  1) Dairy (milk, cheese, etc)  2) Whole grains (esp. wheat)  3)  Beans, nuts, legumes  4)  Citrus fruit.

An overwhelming majority of people in the world have at least minor allergic irritation with any or all of these.

As we know from Dr. D., almost all of us have problems with some of each of these categories, but others from the same category are often medicinal.  We often need some guidance to filter the major offenders out so the body can heal enough to tell us what we need / don't want.


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What is gallbladder? In italian it means "cistifellea" which is an internal organ of the digestive system, but I do not know if you want to indicate that.

Anyway, with no dairy and no whole grains the diet is already strict. Now I'm eating with this diet, I hope to see some results in the next days.
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Anyway, yes I have a gallbladder

I am continuing with the diet. I feel a little better. Diarrhea seems to have stopped and I have less air, but today I have the opposite problem, I feel constipated. Maybe my gut is regularizing and I need a few more days to achieve regular bowel movements.
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Hopefully this is a good sign


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I am continuing with the diet. I feel a little better. Diarrhea seems to have stopped and I have less air, but today I have the opposite problem, I feel constipated. Maybe my gut is regularizing and I need a few more days to achieve regular bowel movements.

You may very well bounce between diarrhea and constipation a few times as the body heals and regulates properly again...  Allow it the time to heal and you will be rewarded...


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Thought this might be helpful here. IBS and SIBO ... http://drhyman.com/blog/condit.....ontent=Get+the+story


"For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well." Psalm 139:13,14
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Quoted from Molossus
Anyway, yes I have a gallbladder

I am continuing with the diet. I feel a little better. Diarrhea seems to have stopped and I have less air, but today I have the opposite problem, I feel constipated. Maybe my gut is regularizing and I need a few more days to achieve regular bowel movements.



I just finished going through this.  After the diarrhea stopped, I got stuck.  Then after a few good days adding the Larch powder and keeping on the program I had a solid movement.

Then I had another bout.. with diarrhea and horrific pain and discovered the items that I had added back in that caused the re-occurance.  

So I cut them out and it took a few days and then i was back to being stuck again!   BUT I kept on program and added even more healing supp's from the Blood Type Store and now today I had a completely normal solid bowel movement that was healthy.  NO pain.  

It's averaging about every two days now.. but I'm feeling very good that today was a great sign of healing.

The BTD supp's for this issue and for inflammation, as well as my eating according to my Swami are all doing their magic.

Keep on your healing program... you will improve.  

I did go to the doc by the way when things got 'stuck' and he told me to increase fiber and that eventually it would move.  

Hope this helps!
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BluesSinger, you are correct that you are moving in the right direction.  And healing happens in stages and can often plateau.  It took a long time to develop the problems and it takes time to heal.  



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BluesSinger, you are correct that you are moving in the right direction.  And healing happens in stages and can often plateau.  It took a long time to develop the problems and it takes time to heal.  


Thank you Victoria... man.. this past 6 weeks of healing was a bitc... It's been kind of alot of aches and pains as my body let go of stuff...

I did have one setback where I had two days where I ate wheat and some sugar... but then i got back on track.. thank the Good Lord.  

I've been more and more appreciative of the BTD Supp's as I've used them and my Swami foods for healing.  I am not 100% compliant.. I still drink organic soy in my tea and I do a very small amount of mayo and mustard.. (very small), maybe once a week but that's it.  

My big challenge is coming up however as we drive 5 days across country moving.  I don't do well on long drives without coffee... however I'm anxious to see how I do now that I've been off coffee and my fatigue during the day has pretty much ended..   I may do fine.  I'm praying for God to help me.. cause that old addiction voice wants to kick in.  
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Quoted from BluesSinger


My big challenge is coming up however as we drive 5 days across country moving.  I don't do well on long drives without coffee... however I'm anxious to see how I do now that I've been off coffee and my fatigue during the day has pretty much ended..   I may do fine.  I'm praying for God to help me.. cause that old addiction voice wants to kick in.  


Keep your bottle of Deflect very handy!  



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Quoted from Victoria


Keep your bottle of Deflect very handy!  


yes!

also I just had a 2nd movment!!! oh my!  2 in one day.. that hasn't happened in awhile!!!
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yes!

also I just had a 2nd movment!!! oh my!  2 in one day.. that hasn't happened in awhile!!!


Awesomeness!!  



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also I just had a 2nd movment!!! oh my!  2 in one day.. that hasn't happened in awhile!!!

It is amazing what we celebrate, isn't it???


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Quoted from BluesSinger

So I cut them out and it took a few days and then i was back to being stuck again!   BUT I kept on program and added even more healing supp's from the Blood Type Store and now today I had a completely normal solid bowel movement that was healthy.  NO pain.  

It's averaging about every two days now.. but I'm feeling very good that today was a great sign of healing.

The BTD supp's for this issue and for inflammation, as well as my eating according to my Swami are all doing their magic.


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IBS is often pre-diagnosed before Celiac disease.

IMPORTANT TO GET THE 4-ANTIBODY CELIAC BLOOD PANEL BEFORE STOPPING EATING WHEAT/BARLEY/RYE !!!

Other IBS causes:

- Lactose intolerance. (This is easily tested by a GI by administering large quantities of lactose orally. Hydrogen breath measurements are taken every hour for 4 hours to determine how the body is digesting the lactose - or not, as the case may be)
- Fructose intolerance
- Wheat allergy - wholly separate from celiac; histamine skin tests done in 1 hour at the allergist.


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stool test is less harmful GIME....
no way would I ever ingest gluten for weeks to test positive

same with lactose intolerance tests...

ABO guidelines personalized and specific to physiology are best followed....

who wants a non self antigen sugar in their system, causing an exacerbated inflammatory reaction???

D galactosamine is the BT B antigen sugar.......and thus all foods have been given a specific value, thanks to Dr D s life s work

here s to 15 years of wellness and more to come!


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Quoted from Lola
stool test is less harmful GIME....
no way would I ever ingest gluten for weeks to test positive

.......and thus all foods have been given a specific value, thanks to Dr D s life s work

here s to 15 years of wellness and more to come!


Ingestion hidden gluten once will put me out of commission for 3 weeks; it's frightening to imagine what eating gluten for one month would do!!! So Lola, I haven't consciously ingested gluten for 18 months, and before that is was only 3-4 times monthly. At this stage, would a stool sample determine if I was celiac? Judging from the mess my fingerprints were in 18 months ago, and the info that Dr. D. posted on how in the 50's the fingerprints were used to determine if one had celiac disease, it seems that I am. If I can get a diagnosis at this stage with a stood sample, I would go for it, but no way will I ingest wheat to find out.

Deflect, polyflora and 4 Intrinsia daily for the past 6 months have fast forwarded my healing. I am so grateful for Dr. D'Adamo's protocols, supplements and generosity in sharing this with the public and not just for his private practice!  

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Just a general note about IBS... Most of us here don't eat Splenda or sucralose, but for those who may be beginning with BTD or tempted over the holidays, it can cause IBS symptoms.  Carrageenan can as well, so look out in dairy products and soy milk for that one.

Also, those who react to gluten, coffee is most likely to cause a cross reaction out of all foods.  The body can easily mistake it for gluten.  For those who get coffee, or drink it anyway, look out for that.


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Stool test is unreliable. Do not recommend. (And you would have to be eating wheat/barley/rye even if it were worth the stool you use for it)

Coffee and gluten? No way. How on earth does the body mistake a gliadin protein for coffee??? Keep drinking your coffee.  


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PS - The genetic test HLA-DQ2 or DQ8 can help you determine if you or your family are at risk for celiac disease (autoimmune). If you do not have the gene, then perhaps it is not autoimmune, but rather one of the many types of gluten sensitivity. No one has enough of the right enzymes to digest gluten. Celiacs' bodies see the undigested bits and treat it like a virus or bacteria, launching an immune response. Other reactions may not be autoimmune in nature. And you don't need to be eating gluten to get the genetic test.


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Ok, I just dug this up, and it makes no sense. He's saying it cross-reacts with antibodies.

http://drclark.typepad.com/dr_david_clark/2011/09/coffee-and-gluten-sensitivity-surprising-news.html

But if you're not eating gluten, then you shouldn't have antibodies. Celiacs are monitored for conformity to the diet by checking antibody levels. They go away when the gluten goes away.

Problem solved?


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Some of the antibodies are pretty hard to get down, one small cross contamination incident can send those back up for months.  In theory though, yes I suppose the cross reaction could go away in time, but it may take avoiding the cross reactive foods as well as the gluten.  Candida is also cross-reactive, so that one can be hard to completely get rid of since you don't have to eat it to have it.

My sensitivity to cross reactive foods, like milk, has gone down in time, though.  Intrinsa seemed to really help with that.  It caused me some digestive distress at first, but I reduced my dose and stuck with it until I could tolerate more of it.


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On the bright side, it would take quite a while to list all the benefits of green tea, some especially helpful for celiacs.  Doesn't have the caffeine punch coffee does, but does have some and never makes me jittery.   For coffee withdrawal, I'd find a potent matcha powder as that has more caffeine than brewed green tea.


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Glutenismyenemy   -   very interesting about   Coffee & Gluten.

I think this is another piece for my personal health puzzle - so I want to be sure I understand it correctly---

Even if I am working hard to eliminate gluten my body is still looking for gluten to attack.  (Antibodies)
And 10% of someting in  coffee can look like gluten = causing a reaction.  Ouch!

This will make it easier to avoid coffee and relieve some misery.

Quoted from video:
"[i]Coffee cross-reacts with gluten antibodies.
Let me tell you what that means...
When you have a gluten problem you make antibodies to it. Antibodies are like little strobe lights that your immune system makes for a specific invader.
So you put out these strobe lights for gluten, right? And they attach to a gluten molecule and they sit there and they flash so that your T cells --your SWAT team-- can come in and kill the gluten.
Gluten antibodies - those little strobe lights - can attach to other foods that are not gluten.
Your immune system thinks those non-gluten things ARE gluten ---and you can still have a gluten response.
The most common cross-reactor is coffee.
Now before you freak out and send me videos and e-mails saying, "Oh, how could coffee do that?"
Ten percent of coffee is a protein that cross-reacts with gluten antibodies.[/i]"
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So does that mean that if 90% of coffee does not react with gluten anti-bodies, a person could find a particular type of coffee that they can drink with minimal impact?  

Not planning on it. Just wondering.




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Ok, I just dug this up, and it makes no sense. He's saying it cross-reacts with antibodies.

http://drclark.typepad.com/dr_david_clark/2011/09/coffee-and-gluten-sensitivity-surprising-news.html

But if you're not eating gluten, then you shouldn't have antibodies. Celiacs are monitored for conformity to the diet by checking antibody levels. They go away when the gluten goes away.

Problem solved?


That isn't exactly true.

Let us say you are a celiac who has been off wheat for a year, but let us also say you are sensitive to corn. Your body makes antibodies against corn, but you don't have a response known as an allergy (friendly fire, too much of a response). Well when you eat corn your body not only produces antibodies against the corn, but also against wheat. The numbers may be lower, but it still happens. The best approach is to eliminate anything your body likes to make antibodies against (which the BTD/GTD/SWAMI takes care of for most people), to reduce the overall production. If overall production is down, you may not get a response when ingesting anything even though your immune system is silently dispatching the offenders.

*A possible complication: if your intestinal balance is off, your body may be producing extra antibodies against everything. This is why a BTD compliant Type O that doesn't eat meat, may still find themselves having allergic reactions to the slightest bit of something that is an offending item (say corn, wheat, etc).
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I think all coffee has the protein in it, it just makes up 10% of the coffee.

Good gluten free coffee substitutes are probably a better plan, like Raja's cup.  Brewed cocoa beans are good.  Roasted twig tea is a favorite too, is it called kukicha?  It's been a while since I had it but it was good.  Yerba mate is another option.  

Now I'm craving twig tea...  


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Amazing!  I think I need to talk with my naturopath, who mostly does acupuncture and TCM. She does not see the cross-reactor issue. She thinks a bit of coffee is OK.  

I stopped coffee 2 months ago.  IBS became less problematic. Adrenals still need time and attention. After a  year of being gluten free, my gliadin still tests very high.

Purlgirl and DoS, thank you for shedding light.




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