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I've not found farmed salmons....do you know if it's the same of the other salmons? In the italian book I can eat all wild salmons, but not farmed salmons...it's weird...

farmed salmon is horrible in terms of nutrition.  Wild-caught salmon is higher in omega-3 and has lived a natural life; whereas farmed salmon has been crowded in poor conditions, fed a poor diet, and been treated with antibiotics.  If farm-raised was my only option, I wouldn't buy it.

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I've tried to do some variations on the Swami. I'not sure of the Upper/Lower leg ratio (but probably upper leg is longer), so I've tried all 3 different options...with lower leg longer I result 42% warrior...that's weird...do you that I should follow only the teacher/swami diet and not consider the warrior option?


are you just guessing or did you actually do the measurements?  You need to do the measurements precisely as described in the book.  If they are difficult to determine because they are very close, have someone else measure and see what they think


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Watch the wheat celebration. Wheat is on the teacher diet, I presume, mainly because wheat germ agglutinin has some anti cancer properties in type A when used in moderation. There are lots of issues with wheat in general, many of which have been discussed ad nauseam (well, maybe we aren't ready to vomit  ) on this board. Try searching "wheat" or "gluten"

I am a former wheat addict. It was one of the main causes of my IBS and gluten sensitivity, I believe. Perhaps the tomato and potato were helping as well.  

The main protein in gluten is not digestible by anyone.

Part of the issue is these little buggers can get in through your intestines and cause a whole host of issues. My main complaint (besides the gut and bacterial overgrowth in the intestine) was brain fog, low energy, and joint issues.

My thought is that an IBS diagnosis means lectin damage. I am not a doctor, but it seems obvious to me from what I've learned through this site and the IFHI CD's that the immature cell lining would be irritated and/or vulnerable.

Wheat also feeds the bad critters in the gut quite well.

Swami Pro has the option of putting things in like "low gluten"-- which Dr. D did for me. It still shows a couple of gluten items, but this is where I use my brain and say pass.  

How does rice rank on your SWAMI? There are some lovely organic rice pastas available...which reminds me to go eat lunch.  


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ditto to all and do ur measurements right! to get the right results.. like done on these vids..

Measuring torso and leg length

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olnmUUVuVMA

Measuring finger length

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65qdAvuNjsc

whats the value of Parmesan on ur SWAMI??
im A+ secretor and a Teacher, Parmesan straight up gives me gas and diarrhea!!
which explains why its an avoid http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?283


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Eat Ghee and try going gluten free for a little bit. You would not be the first teacher who is gluten intolerant on this board.
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Eat Ghee and try going gluten free for a little bit. You would not be the first teacher who is gluten intolerant on this board.


I'll second that


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I respond to all.

About measurements. I've seen the videos many times to be sure to do them right   
I've taken measures many times. I think that my measures are really accurate, but the Upper/Lower leg measure remains not so clear, also looking at the video. Moreover the italian version of the book explain a different method to take the lower leg measure (standing and not seated).
In my case they are very similar (the difference is maximum 1-2 cm) but my last try did the upper longer than the lower...but I'm not sure about the precise point around the kneecap where I should end the measure.

About farmed salmon. I'm not so happy to eat this kind of salmon. I always prefer and eat the wild salmons. But I also love the Japanese restaurant and the grilled salmon which they cook for me but I can not know which kind of salmon they use...that was the reason of my question

About Wheat and Gluten. I think that it is a complex subject. For me, for example, I feel that rice is easier to digest than pasta... But sometimes it seems to me that I am able to digest correctly also pasta and white flour products. In my chronic IBS there is a lot of chaos and it's not always so easy to understand the tolerability of a food.
I ask you a question: I've read that also some other carbo, such as kamut or spelled contains gluten, is it right? So if I should delete gluten products, I should delete also kamut, spelled etc...
I've not found that option "low gluten", where is it in Swami?

About Rice. In my Swami Rice has the following ranking: wild rice and brown rice are superfoods, while the other kind of rice (white, basmati, flour white, puffed) are neutrals. I love the rice pasta, but I've seen that many type of rice-pasta contains gluten...is it the same gluten of the wheat pasta? it could be dangerous?
Anyway Rice is my life preserver. I don't know why Basmati is only neutral, for me it has always been the most digestible food.

About Parmesan. In my Swami it results a superfood with diamond!

About Ghee: What is Ghee??? I can't find the italian translation....help!  
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ask swami for the most indicated sups for you only
or try this if you do not have a swami
http://www.northamericanpharmacal.com/PNC/productguide.html
DPN/NAP provides an online guide to help people in selecting the right supplements.
Designed for touch-screen, but also works via mouse click as well
tell it to print the 'highly recommended' ones.


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About Ghee: What is Ghee??? I can't find the italian translation....help!  
Hi - Ghee is like clarified butter - but much better to make your own (no additives/preservative) plenty of links on here (try the search function on upper top right of page ) It is very healing for gut

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May be you do not need any supplements at this stage. The symtoms, assuming they are part of the healing process, are likely to go in maximum another  few more days. Why not wait and see, and tolerate the symptoms for a few days more?


This is great advice, stop the prebiotic & wait b4 buying more supplements.  I would consider the Polyflora later.
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Ghee - I've found it! In Italy it is called GHI and there is a biological version also in some bio-markets.

About supplements Swami suggests me the Teacher pack (Activator+Catalyst+Synergist) and secondly the basic type A pack (Polyflora, Deflect, Polyvite, Phytocal).

Anyway I'll try to wait some days before taking anything else. I want to see my body evolution without lactose symbiotic.
In the meanwhile I'll try to eat gluten free....I ask you: also kamut and spelt have gluten?  If so, I must eat only rice and cornmeal products (both in the neutrals list, but the brown rice which is in the superfood list).

Maybe just deleting gluten products, chocolate, sugars and tomato which I used to eat very often in my daily diet, I could feel better.

Have a great day
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Kamut and spelt do have gluten.  I would imagine that eliminating gluten and sugar would probably do a lot for you - all you can do is give it a try and see how you feel.  Personally, tomato was a big one for me so that may help as well.  Be careful with corn products as they are very inflammatory.  I agree that it's a good idea to hold off on supplements for now and just see how you react to the dietary changes.  Good luck


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Do you cook for yourself? Make your own Ghee from organic butter.

Do you have white lines in your fingerprints? they would indicate a gluten sensitivity. All you would do is check the box for white lines on your SWAMI

Often people given a green light with wheat end up eating nothing but wheat products thinking they are doing a good thing. Careful with portions.

IBS is complicated....


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"low gluten" is not in SWAMI Xpress as far as the last time I looked. It is in the professional version.

Kamut and spelt are ancient varieties.

Modern wheat has been changed through modern agricultural practices and it's protein content (and gluten) has been increased many fold.

So say your distant ancestor ate a loaf of bread. Eating the same loaf today may be like him eating 12 or 14 loaves in this aspect. (Not sure on the exact number)

If manna bread is on your SWAMI and you don't have white lines or issues with gluten, it is probably something to consider as well.

Gone are my days of baking whole grain wheat bread and adding a tablespoon of gluten to "help" it in the breadmaker.  


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No but white lines are right? so that would give the same results?



MIFHI

"Do not try to satisfy your vanity by teaching a great many things. Awaken people's curiosity. It is enough to open minds; do not overload them." Anatole France

"Healthy people have the least overt symptoms from eating avoid foods." Dr. D'Adamo
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Yes I cook for myself. I can do Ghee by myself.

I have a lot of white lines in my fingerprints. I've already set the Swami with this option, but in my diet I have wheat, white flour and gluten in the superfood  

Anyway I'm doing a personal list with all gluten-free products. I'll try to not exceed with corn products if you tell that they can be infiammatory. I will focus on rice-based products.  

5 years ago, at the beginning of my IBS, I did a gluten-free and lactose-free diet for one month, I felt better in that period, but not completely well, so I decided to stop after 4 weeks. Maybe it was not a great idea
I did not have any other knowledge and I was used to eat a lot of tomato, bananas, chocolate, and did not know anything about kamut, spelt, and other cereals...so maybe I was eating again something wrong also in that period.

Now with the Swami and all this good knowledge I could do the definitive diet. Moreover now there are many more markets where I can buy good products for my diet.

I'm only not so sure about oatmeal flakes, it seems to have gluten, but some recent studies say that they can be tolerated also by persons with celiac desease.
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I would avoid oatmeal for now - avoid all gluten or potential gluten to see how that makes you feel.  Oats are considered gluten free but are usually cross-contaminated and contain gluten.  Some oats actually say "gluten free" on the packaging; if you can find those they should be alright.  Technically all grains (even rice and corn) contain glutens, but people are more likely to react to the glutens in wheat, rye, and barley.

Health can take a lot of detective work.  If you felt better before when eating gluten and lactose-free I would try again and be sure to be very strict about it so that you aren't accidentally eating something that could be causing a reaction.  It takes time and patience, but you're definitely on your way


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Since you have such extreme health issues right now, I'd suggest being extra-strict about avoiding "foods that may or may not be contributing to the problem." Later, once you've healed a lot, you can re-introduct them, one at a time, and see how your body tolerates them.

But don't get so caught up in the "foods to avoid" that you forget to eat! Healing is as much about getting the RIGHT foods into you as it is about avoiding the wrong ones. You need good nutrition to support healing. Make sure to eat plenty of beneficial foods daily, and try to stick to the recomended portion sizes and frequencies.


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Diarrhea can also be a good thing, at times. It can mean bacteria flushes, but a constant state means you are losing the battle or ingesting something your body decides needs to be dealt with there and then.

Swami can not account for specific allergies, at least not the xpress version.

Yes Spelt, Kamut, and most oats contain gluten. Be mindful of sauces and gravies too.
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the recommended portion sizes are weird in some cases...
5 weekly servings x 1 tablespoon of fats and oils are really few...it's really hard to follow. Using oil over rice, fish, meat and veggies is indispensable...at least for me
Can I use a larger portion size of oil?
On the contrary there are other categories with huge weekly or daily servings (i.e live foods).

Can someone help me with this question? http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-xpress/m-1307112375/
My message is the last..

Thanks  
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Many people have complained that the oil portions are too small. A good many of us eat way more oil than recomended by SWAMI. I personally ignore the SWAMI oil portions, although I do try hard to stick to the recomended portions of live foods, meats, etc.

If I find myself 5 lbs over my "goal weight" and not able to lose any more weight, I may cut way back on oil to see if that helps with weight loss. But until that point, oil isn't my concern.


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Molossus,
I started with all the Blood type formulas and kept taking them after swami made me 42% Teacher. I won't do without the polyflora as it keeps everything "working"!!!!
I learned fairly early when following this way of life that cow dairy and gluten were my enemies. Life is so good without them!
Good luck to you on your journey!
Ciao!


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About weight I should gain some kilos, I'm really thin. So I think that I will not count oils until I've reached my goal weight.

Ciao Cajun! It seems that we have very similar blood-mix. Cow dairy and gluten are probably my enemies too. I've started the new diet without enemies and I'll see in the next days if I have an improvement. Anyway I already feel a little better and this is a good sign
Polyflora is the first supplement in my list and I think that I will take it in any case after this first period of diet. For now I want to see how my body responds to the new diet only.

I'd like to ask you one thing.
I've seen that there are a lot of products in the supermarkets here that do not have gluten, but can contain traces of gluten or traces of other cereals which contains gluten. The list is very long and could give a more variety to my diet. Do you think that I could eat these foods?
For now I've bought only certified totally gluten-free products to be sure, but I'd like to have a greater variety in my diet.  

Thank to all of you for the great support
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Italian labeling may be different than here, but a lot of manufacturers produce more than one thing so they will put warning labels such as "manufactured in a facility that processes wheat" -- things like that. I am not celiac or truly allergic so generally these things, I'm not really concerned about. The way they do labels here means they list all ingredients.

Here is an "unsafe" list that might be helpful.
http://www.celiac.com/articles/182/1/Unsafe-Gluten-Free-Food-List-Unsafe-Ingredients/Page1.html

Accidently bought "Farro" the other day because "Fonio" is on my superfood list and I have never seen it (didn't have the list with me) and I got excited. Oops!

Happy shopping. Most of the people here end up with very little prepackaged foods and come back to simple ingredients. Most "gluten-free" foods here contain other avoids.


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What sort of oil are you using? Try using ghee instead.


MIFHI

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