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I am able to get organic turkey in northern ireland, there must be other suppliers in other countries.


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Just read this i a book about 5 mins ago, thought of this thread lol

Back in the 1830’s, a Presbyterian minister named Sylvester Graham (1794–1851) crusaded against anything and everything that he considered the “playboy philosophy.” According to Graham, men should abstain from sex until the age of 30 and have sex just once a month thereafter. To control lust, Graham prescribed a high-fiber vegetarian diet.

Besides sex, Graham campaigned against soft mattresses, hot baths, and other “sensual” things not worthy of “real men,” because, according to Graham, they led to “venereal excess.” That’s how hard beds and cold showers entered into the American pantheon of manhood, and turned countless boys into rebellious neurotics, drug users, and alcoholics. Alas, substance abuse and mental disorders often follow even a mildly abusive childhood.

Graham preached equally hard against white bread because it lacked fiber and, presumably, caused constipation. In time, this rhetoric gave birth to Graham flour—a coarsely ground wheat made into Graham bread, Graham muffins, and Graham crackers, which eventually degenerated into the ubiquitous sugar-laden children’s cookies made from refined white flour practically devoid of fiber.

Ironically, Sylvester Graham was the seventeenth child of the Reverend John Graham, who was 72 years old at the time of his son’s birth. Graham himself lasted for just 57 years and died alone and in obscurity, in large part because of his abrasive, irritable personality—a typical manifestation of acute protein deficiency and unstable blood sugar. Apparently, in Graham’s own case, a strict vegetarian diet, harsh fiber, and prudish abstinence brought neither health nor happiness. Nonetheless, his message took hold. But it took another century to finally hook Americans on fiber for good.


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The acid/alkaline balance in natural meat-eaters works differently compared to that of natural vegetarians.  Acid in the stomach vs acid in the muscules.

Different body, different strengths and weaknesses, different diet, same good health.


My weight loss goal: 220 lbs.  A 6'4" dyslexic oddball: the size of a line-backer, the silhouette of Winnie-the-Pooh.
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I was a vegetarian for a few years and then I was tempted to go back to eating meat again..and..
wait..a minute..      (kidding)     wrong person... ha ha

My O son went into the Army Basic trainging, so he thought he'd eat a lot of carbs, rice, spaghetti, for energy.. you know carb loading to get through all the training.. He didn't really believe in the Blood type diet.  He said he felt like poop.  So he decided to listen to his mother... and eat meat, vegetables, fruit and nuts and stay off the grains and dairy.  He even managed to find some soy milk to drink. Not the best, but better than cow's milk for O's!  He felt great! He said all his energy came back...
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That's what I am talking about! I was a Raw Vegan for three years (and am a certified raw food chef) but for some reason (now I know the reason) I was gaining weight and feeling tired all the time. I was taught that being a raw vegan was the most healthiest lifestyles there is yet I was not seeing the benefits other than loving the food I was creating. Once bite of a grassfed t-bone and I was HOOKED.

That night I was bouncing off the wall with energy. My hubby laughed because he hadnt seen me that energetic in a while

Needless to say he nor I are never going to give up red meat again.

Oh and also I have not been on the diet very long (since January 13th) and I am down 11 pounds and shrinking.  


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This is my problem.  I would love to find ground turkey w/o added natural flavors.


Contact the company and find out what's in the "natural flavors." The only kosher ground turkey I could find also listed "natural flavors" so I emailed Empire Poultry to find out what's in it. Turns out, "natural flavors" simply means rosemary oil for this particular product. Since rosemary is neutral for both Os and Bs, I'm comfortable using this product.


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wonderful!
keep up the compliance....kudos to your hub


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Just read this i a book about 5 mins ago, thought of this thread lol

Back in the 1830’s, a Presbyterian minister named Sylvester Graham (1794–1851) crusaded against anything and everything that he considered the “playboy philosophy.” According to Graham, men should abstain from sex until the age of 30 and have sex just once a month thereafter. To control lust, Graham prescribed a high-fiber vegetarian diet.

Besides sex, Graham campaigned against soft mattresses, hot baths, and other “sensual” things not worthy of “real men,” because, according to Graham, they led to “venereal excess.” That’s how hard beds and cold showers entered into the American pantheon of manhood, and turned countless boys into rebellious neurotics, drug users, and alcoholics. Alas, substance abuse and mental disorders often follow even a mildly abusive childhood.

Graham preached equally hard against white bread because it lacked fiber and, presumably, caused constipation.
Aaah this is who was responsible for my Dad's strict Scottish Presbyterian upbringing & why he was so against "the pleasures of the flesh" I think his life was a bit sad as a result & ironically, despite plenty of grains, grinding his own whole wheat flour & making bread etc he was still less than regular (from what my Mother said) or healthy really... Think he was probably an O

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Hi Aimy,

  I am a new follower of the Genotype Diet after having been vegan for almost a year. I had become vegan thinking it would help my health. Among other things, I had about 100 pounds to lose. (it still shocks me to say that!) After becoming vegan I did initially feel better. I think this was because I gave up dairy. Giving up the dairy caused me to rapidly lose 17 pounds in one month.
After that the weight loss slowed, but I continued to lose another 33 pounds over the next 5 months. Then, however I stopped losing weight and continued to having digestive distress (bloating, gas, etc.) Continued on for another several months before realizing that all of the wheat products I was consuming were causing the problem.  A friend mentioned Dr. D'Adamo's books and I started reading and realized that I needed to make a change.  Realizing I was a type O Gatherer, I immediately gave up wheat and corn and slowly started adding meat back into my diet. The change has been dramatic to say the least! All of the bloating, gas and intestinal discomfort is gone and I have started losing weight again! In fact 11 pounds in the first 3 weeks! I am feeling better every day and look forward to finally reaching my goal weight while feeling my very best!  Hope you find your experience to be similar and wish you the very best!
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JG!
great testimonial!
welcome!
Read about the non secretor issue
http://www.dadamo.com/knowbase/newbie/a.htm


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Lola,

Thanks for the welcome! Am happy to finally be on the right track!
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I was following the BTD and enjoying awesome health until I became a yoga teacher and decided I was going to become vegetarian. Because I knew O's aren't good on dairy I decided to go the whole hog and become vegan. I was a vegan for about a year - in that short time I gained 10kg, developed chronic acne that I'm still recovering from, had severe anxiety and was depressed, my menstrual cycle stopped for 8 months - I kept putting it down to the idea that my body was 'detoxing' and 'cleansing' from all the 'bad meat' I'd eaten on the BTD for about 3 years before. I was so desperate to detox at one point I was a raw vegan for about 2 months - I've never been more unhealthy in my life, I look at pictures and it pains me at how inflamed, puffy, tired and drained I look. Like a big puffed up bag of death!

Well, this 'detox' continued until the day I changed back to the BTD, where I've been since - SLOWLY regaining my health. I've just changed over to the GTD to try and lose the 10kg I gained.... we live and learn. I feel amazing now.
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welcome, glad you migrated over from FB!
keep up the good work!


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jessetcell,
good testimonial!  

I took that route also;  became yoga teacher, vegetarian/vegan for two decades, wrecked my health, rebuilding with the help of Dr. D!




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I was a vegan in the 90s, worst years of my life.  I don't put too much stock in the acid/alkaline theory & I was a food combining, vegan macrobiotic fanatic.  Ugh what a bunch of b.s.!  BT Os thrive on animal foods & meat, period.  Add some raw veggies to your diet & oat bran if you're a Gatherer.  Buy a Vitamix if you simply must have that L.A. cool experience.  
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http://preciouswilliams.typepa.....an-exvegetarian.html

This is an interesting article...she mentions Liz Hurley doing the BTD towards the bottom of the story.

"Around the same time, I read that Elizabeth Hurley was following something called the Blood Type Diet, started by a naturopath called Dr D'Adamo who claimed that there was no such thing as a one-size-fits-all healthy diet. In short, vegetarianism simply couldn't work for everybody.

D'Adamo claims that it all boils down to your blood group: people whose blood group is A can thrive as vegetarians and shouldn't eat any meat, while those of blood group O can't thrive without red meat. My blood group is O. I suddenly started to feel that meat, the only thing I hadn't tried eating in recent years, was the missing link to good health."


"For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well". Psalm 139

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I also learned in biology that the body keeps the alkaline PH in the proper 7 range. It will do what it has to to keep it there. Even a point off can cause death so that whole keeping the body alkaline is a scam to get people to buy "products" that change your Ph balance.  You're body's chemistry does it all for free and with the proper diet for your type, it's very easy to maintain it.    I probably got osteopenia from a combination of low vitamin D levels and eating low carb, high protein for a about 5 years..maybe more..before coming back to the BTD in 2008.    
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Quoted from Jesi
http://preciouswilliams.typepa.....an-exvegetarian.html

This is an interesting article...she mentions Liz Hurley doing the BTD towards the bottom of the story.

"Around the same time, I read that Elizabeth Hurley was following something called the Blood Type Diet, started by a naturopath called Dr D'Adamo who claimed that there was no such thing as a one-size-fits-all healthy diet. In short, vegetarianism simply couldn't work for everybody.

D'Adamo claims that it all boils down to your blood group: people whose blood group is A can thrive as vegetarians and shouldn't eat any meat, while those of blood group O can't thrive without red meat. My blood group is O. I suddenly started to feel that meat, the only thing I hadn't tried eating in recent years, was the missing link to good health."


This was a good article, Jesi.  I really related to the way her health went downhill over the years of being a vegetarian:

"The truth was that with each slightly more extreme variation of vegetarianism I tried, I grew slightly weaker, more lethargic, more depressed and - worse still - slightly fatter."



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Yes I remember this.  For a lot of years i thought veganism was dead.  Love the late 90s, very important time for me.  
Quoted from Jesi
http://preciouswilliams.typepa.....an-exvegetarian.html

This is an interesting article...she mentions Liz Hurley doing the BTD towards the bottom of the story.

"Around the same time, I read that Elizabeth Hurley was following something called the Blood Type Diet, started by a naturopath called Dr D'Adamo who claimed that there was no such thing as a one-size-fits-all healthy diet. In short, vegetarianism simply couldn't work for everybody.

D'Adamo claims that it all boils down to your blood group: people whose blood group is A can thrive as vegetarians and shouldn't eat any meat, while those of blood group O can't thrive without red meat. My blood group is O. I suddenly started to feel that meat, the only thing I hadn't tried eating in recent years, was the missing link to good health."


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Hey everyone, my first post here, and I'm new here and new to Genotype.

I'm Hunter type O  and I was vegetarian for 13 years. I occasionally would "slip up" and eat wild game. But in general, I practically lived on cakes and cookies and Mexican food. I was generally healthy, but depressed a lot of the time and lots of skin problems. About 7 years ago I started eating fish and chicken, but still eating tons of bready things. During my vegetarian days I also developed an allergy to cashew, pistachio, macadamia, and walnuts. Doctor said "leaky gut". Also developed kind of nasty hay fever and cat allergies. I believe all this to be damage incurred by the "carbatarian" diet. I think I did permanent damage.

In recent years I've had intense cravings for very nutrient dense foods like marrow, livers, and even things like fish eyes.

Anyway, I know now that I'm a hunter. I really do not enjoy beef at all (except marrow), and chicken and most poultry is something that mostly disgusts me, thought I enjoy it in some cases (mostly Mexican or Indian food). It's going to be a tough road to try to incorporate the meats into my diet. Even though I'm not vegetarian anymore, I still only manage to get meat into my diet a couple times per week, or even less sometimes.

At least I finally understand why I have always hated lettuce.  The only fruits I really love to eat are pineapple and mango, so that explains a lot. I love Mamey too, but don't see it come through here too often.

Anyway, I'm just starting my GenoJourney, and thought I'd give my experiences on veg transitioning into non-veg.

On a side note, I never would have guessed I was a hunter, but interestingly I've always been a great sprinter, and can also go for long long walks without really tiring or needing water or food. I was also thinking about my uncanny ability to spot wildlife. Even on tours in places where I don't know the animals, I almost always spot animals before the guide. I wonder if that is some ancient instinct happening! It's totally fascinating. There are a bunch of other things relating to my "eyes in the back of my head" senses that I now see could be related to my Hunter genetics.
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glad you like marrow!

learn to make bone broth soups

these are very restoring and nourishing.....add beneficials to these

replenish your ecosystem and balance your bacterial overgrowth from years of eating carbs......

this lectin free anti inflammatory approach will take you there in no time!
welcome!


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It's going to be a tough road to try to incorporate the meats into my diet. Even though I'm not vegetarian anymore, I still only manage to get meat into my diet a couple times per week, or even less sometimes.


Beef might be the most 'satisfying' food for a Hunter.

If you have not yet weaned yourself from wheat this will turn out to be a pleasant surprise. It's all about the tyrsoine and cravings for a serotonin fix.
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Depends why you are a vegetarian- is it because you feel animals should not be eaten because they have a soul as we do, or because you feel that most meats are contaminated, ie. fish containing mercury, meats containing and fed chemicals.


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In recent years I've had intense cravings for very nutrient dense foods like marrow, livers, and even things like fish eyes.


Don't worry, if you have these kinds of cravings you'll eventually get used to meat and poultry!    

Welcome, Hunter!
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