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Aimy
Monday, March 7, 2011, 10:06am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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A Big hello!!

My god, I've been confused in the last few months. They say reading helps the mind!!!  ... I was wondering if anyone was a Vegan or Vegetarian before reading the book, then converting once they found they were a Hunter or Gatherer?  If so, has your experiences been beneficial?

My situation is... I've always eaten meat up until 3 weeks ago after reading about the benefits of Alkaline and vegetarian diets, which has left me real confused now. The Alkaline theory claims that meat is highly acidic and would put our ph balance out of sync. So reading this, I thought I would attempt this and started eating more lentils, kidney beans, soy/quorn products etc. Within 4 days I came down with a heavy cold but just thought it was just a coincidence. I got over the cold and got back into lots of exercise, but find that I run out of energy so quick and my legs are so heavy.

So this weekend I read the book, did the measurements and found that I'm Hunter. It claims that blood type 'O' produce a lot of stomach acid, so could eating meat really be the solution if we were to believe that meat is acid forming from the Ph diet?

To be honest. I've always felt that what is good for one person, may not be good for the other. Maybe that's why I've felt so weak since stopping the beef  

I'd love to hear if any previous vegetarians have flourished since eating meat?

Sorry you all had to put up with my rant - haha

Aimy
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Hi Aimy - yeah there is no one size fts all & that alkaline acidic chart assumes there is...0's have plenty of acid to digest meat & need it to survive/function properly, especially Hunters!!
Believe me I was at the wrong end of a Hunter's low blood sugar last week, after several days of him not eating enough protein during the day (He thought he could survive on nuts He went nuts (at me) )
As well as that, I was basically vegetarian for a year or so Owing to the fact that we got so many eggs free, (& as I was on the road for work) I used to survive on eggs (at dinner) & almonds, soy protein bars, coffee, coconut cream & sunflower seeds the rest of the day...
My skin was constantly giving me grief & I was stressed to the max (& I thought it was just pressure of work & hormones )
Now my mood is so much more stable & stress levels are fine, despite work & coping with my Hunter's antics & my hair is regaining its colour & split ends are non existent now...
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http://www.dadamo.com/B2blogs/blogs/index.php/2010/05/30/title-25?blog=34

Aimy, here is a blog I wrote a few months ago on just this topic.


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Aimy
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http://www.dadamo.com/B2blogs/blogs/index.php/2010/05/30/title-25?blog=34

Wow - What a great read that was. Thanks for sending that to me
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oh yes, I was a vegetarian for so many years.. and so un healthy!
even after starting  the BTD, I converted to raw for  about a year....
it almost killed me again... though I loved  the food and loved making it!
I'm back to my SWAMI and  just do beautifully... till I fall off of the track...  which is only once in awhile....
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Hi Aimy,
I was never a true vegan but ate very little meat. As the years went on, serious brain fog set in. I was fortunate to find this diet which almost immediately improved my mood and mental clarity. Little did I know how "off" my digestion really was until I started eating this way. We get used to chronic conditions and begin to think they are normal.

One of the first things I learned from my reading was that meat (L-tryosine) helps regulate dopamine in type O's. It is also possible to get this from wheat but that would be the unhealthy way for O's. I had also given up wheat thinking I might have an intolerance so my brain fog was serious.

I am thankfully everyday I was lead to meat. It gave me back my quality of life. Bring on the beef!

Lisa


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I went Vegan for nearly a year and became the sickest of my entire life.  Though my cholesterol numbers were, for the first time in my life "normal", I was so ill that I could barely function.  The moment that I started eating meat again and limiting starch I started to feel better.


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I was vegetarian for a few years and even tried vegan for a few months- got sick and fat from it and had produced a meat and egg loving offspring that I called Stoneagebaby- little did I know that she was a O type...
But I started to eat meat and fish again and soon my health improved.


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Aimy, first of all, a warm welcome to you!   I think you're going to be pleased with how you feel on the Hunter diet. Blood type O's are not vegetarian material!  

I was vegetarian for more than 2 decades and it was slowly killing me.  I did feel great for a couple of years, but it was steadily downhill after that.  Eating right for my type has been rebuilding my health and giving me my life back.

Aim for the best quality of meat that you can find -- grass fed if possible.  It is high in Omega 3's and is anti-inflammatory.  Don't skimp on the fresh produce.  A wide assortment of vegetables is the perfect balance for meat; getting lots of greens in your diet is very alkaline.  

Fasten your seatbelt and enjoy the ride!  



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I agree with everything everyone said. I was barely eating meat for exactly the same reasons you posted...acidity and inflammation. I would eat meat maybe twice a month. I did eat eggs and chicken and fish. However, the way I feel when I eat meat everyday now is just indescribable. I feel alive again, not just dragging myself through life. I also started eating a LOT more fat, and my skin is just glowing. The skin on my legs and arms was always dry, like scaly looking. Now I don't even have to use lotion! My hair is so shiny too.
I also don't have any digestive issues, since it's really hard for my stomach to digest vegetables and grains...within three days of doing btd my stomach was super flat and I was digesting meals within 20 minutes or so. At first I had to eat some rice to help me transition into the diet but now I don't eat any grains at all. I've never felt better! My shoulder and wrist pain is 100% GONE (something I had gotten accustomed to).
I eat meat every day mow and if I don't, I start craving it so badly that I have to run tot he store and get some. I've also been eating a lot of salmon and steelhead trout (I guess it's in season now?).
If you are a hunter I highly recommend eating meat at least once a day at the beginning. Your body will be SO happy!


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I was a vegetarian for a few years during college. I thought it was a healthy diet, but it included lots of cheese, corn, wheat, and highly processed meat analogues. Then I went vegan for a few months, and learned two things: Number one, I did much better off of dairy- my chronic sinus congestion was nearly (but not completely) gone.. That was my first experience ever that dietary changes could affect my health. Secondly, I found that I felt very weak and drained after only a few months on this diet.

After about 3 or 4 months of veganism, I re-evaluated my reasons for being a vegetarian, and decided they no longer fit my world view. My primary argument (to myself) to resume meat eating was "Who am I to say I'm better than G-d when He says we can eat meat?" I was genuinely shocked when I realized I was healthier eating meat, but not dairy, than  I was as an lacto-ovo vegetarian. I still spent years thinking vegetarianism was the ideal (for health and the planet) and eating lots of wheat, corn, all beans, soy products, and only eating meat once or twice a week. It was still years before I ate red meat more than a few times a year.

My health greatly improved when I started with "Traditional Foods" around the time my son was a toddler. That's when I started eating meat a few times a week, along with adding fermented foods to my diet and started "properly preparing" beans and grains. Then I went low-carb (more meat, fewer grains) then gluten free (easier once wheat was a condiment, not a staple) then mostly Paleo (cutting out all legumes and dairy and reducing grains to about once a week). All of these changes improved my health, but I could tell there was still something missing. BTD, and then SWAMI, provided that "missing link" and now my diet is more varied (I can eat beans and some dairy again) plus I'm much more energetic and deal with less overall muscle pain than I did in the past.

I've discovered that eating red meat a few times a week is essential to my health. Even after getting SWAMI, I cut back on red meat consumption to save money (while still avoiding the avoids and eating lots of beneficial veggies) and my mental health fell apart.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  13yo B+ Jack


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myself, my partner and my daughter all went fat free VEGAN 100% for just over 6 months, with no exceptions, no booze, no sweets, nothing bad.

It nearly killed us all (all O's) our skin was terrible, wind was laughable, stomaches bloated, plus are heads were up are bottoms, so to speak, not only that all the other vegan, most of which must have been O's or B's too were demented, sorry to generalise but it's true. they were all aggressive, excessive, and a bit dim to be honest.

Thankfully recovered, we are now much healthier but more importantly happier.

But all things have a happy ending, if we had not gone vegan and been so ill, we would never have found out about the Blood type Diet. so every cloud has a silver, or in the case, a golden lining.

Keep it grass feed though and organic.





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How old was Emily when you put her on the vegan diet, and was she still being breastfed at the time?


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  13yo B+ Jack


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I was vegetarian for more than 2 decades and it was slowly killing me.  I did feel great for a couple of years, but it was steadily downhill after that.  


This was my experience, too. My husband and I were vegetarian for 18 years. I did thrive for a while. But, gradually, the decline happened. Subtle but relentless weight gain, bloating, flatulence, terrible indigestion at times, blinding headaches, aching joints, disrupted sleep patterns, etc, etc, etc. And to top it all off, adrenal exhaustion and depression.

NOT WORTH IT!!!!

Since going onto the genotype diet (hubby is a Hunter; I am a swamied gatherer) we are now REALLY thriving!

Give it a go, Aimy...you won't be sorry.  


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Yeah, 20 years as a vegetarian.
The next 20 trying to recover from it.  



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The funny thing about it, Victoria, was that when I was particularly stressed, I would crave red meat. And that was fairly often. I just thought I wasn't a very disciplined vegetarian. Now I know that my body was pleading for what it really needed to cope with everything.

Just wish I had listened sooner!!!


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The funny thing about it, Victoria, was that when I was particularly stressed, I would crave red meat. And that was fairly often. I just thought I wasn't a very disciplined vegetarian. Now I know that my body was pleading for what it really needed to cope with everything.

Just wish I had listened sooner!!!


Yes, I understand.   I can only be SO grateful that we now know what we know!!      



Normal day, let me be aware of the treasure you are.
Let me not pass you by in quest
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Count me in....25 yrs veg!   sick, but convinced the diet was the best!
Soooo much better now as meat eating gatherer.
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Quoted from Victoria
Yeah, 20 years as a vegetarian.
The next 20 trying to recover from it.  


Wow that was a long stretch.  Glad u survived it.
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I was a strict vegan for about 15 years and then starting eating chick, fish... then 3 years ago, I tried red meat... omg. I cant explain how different I feel. I still struggle with the concept of meat is "bad" when I am constantly in the field of medicine and practitioners who reiterate to clients to eat wheat and veg ( hi carb). However, this board and some fellow o friends are helping me along to just be ME. and LOVE ME... hard to say but everyday it gets a little easier.

Also, my workouts are much better.

I seriously crave the meat everyday since I started eating it again... it really is about balance.You will do it and love it.
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I am a former pesco vegetarian. During the childhood I also ate chicken but I quit that after getting it too much.

I quit the gluten grains off for nearly 19 months ago.

I gradually started to eat organic meat or game nearly 13 months ago.

My healing has been also gradual since my habits are not always so healthy. But I clearly feel normal after eating organic lamb/beef or sometimes moose with lots of vegetables - the way I think people should feel after proper eating!

I've read that organic / grass-fed meat is not so acidic as such meat I never want to eat because of cattle's inhuman production and wrong diet.

And for your own sake, don't eat quorn! That - if something - is very industried "food"! Yuck. Natural tastes are better.

And by the way, I haven't eaten chicken until this day
but a couple times turkey, duck and one meal of mallard.

Poultry is so hard to get organic... that's a pity.


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I'm so happy I asked this question. The replies have been great and it's so good to hear that everyone's health has improved  

Well it's only been 3 days since I started back on the meat again, and I must say that my stomach already feels calmer, not to mention the bloating has already improved a great deal. Also Marjorie mentioned that her workouts are much better.. Omg that's the first thing I noticed, even after a short 3 days.

I'm sorry, but I wish I could reply to you all personally but my fingers will hurt too much  ... But I appreciate the responses... It's put my mind as ease

All the best
Aimy

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Quoted from Green Root

Poultry is so hard to get organic... that's a pity.


This is my problem.  I would love to find ground turkey w/o added natural flavors.
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