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Kelley
Sunday, February 27, 2011, 2:32am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I have pretty much spent my entire life overweight, starting with being a very chubby baby (my mom said "In those days people thought babies were supposed to be fat.") . Most of my life I have eaten meat twice a day - and yet I was still overweight. So I can't blame the lack of meat for being overweight now. As a vegetarian I do get the USDA recommended amount of protein - so it is not a lack of protein that has made me overweight, or even a lack of animal protein since I do eat eggs and dairy. I would have to honestly say that I was a lot more depressed and moody when I was a meat-eater than I am now as a vegetarian. I did the Blood Type Diet while I was a meat-eater but didn't lose weight. I lost weight a few years ago by calorie-counting but hit the plateau at 20 pounds. Since then I have gained back 7 of those pounds. Losing weight has been a life-long, never-ending  project for me, but I see it as totally unrelated to eating or not eating meat.


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I'm not much on factory farm fare, even though I like cheese. If I had a cow or nanny goat As a pet to keep down the grass If I had some property,, I might use the milk If there was any, but I heard that toget milk they need to be pregnant; so what do you do if they pop out a  a boy-goat? So much for being veg. And then there's the vet bills, and possible medications in the milk. What a hassle. So, why isn't goat milk/yougurt on the list? They're nomad animals, yes? Also, are  there any warming traditional herb teas common to western and north-west Europe? Those on the nomad list are kind of cooling for me...cold hands, etc.
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I'm not much on factory farm fare, even though I like cheese. If I had a cow or nanny goat As a pet to keep down the grass If I had some property,, I might use the milk If there was any, but I heard that toget milk they need to be pregnant; so what do you do if they pop out a  a boy-goat? So much for being veg. And then there's the vet bills, and possible medications in the milk. What a hassle. So, why isn't goat milk/yougurt on the list? They're nomad animals, yes? Also, are  there any warming traditional herb teas common to western and north-west Europe? Those on the nomad list are kind of cooling for me...cold hands, etc.
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Ginger tea is very good, and warming too.

I eat goat yogurt every day, made fresh by me from a local farmer's goats.  Delicious!



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Edward
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Is rice protien powder isolate considered "nomad"?
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Also, the cultures in the nomad polyflora are different than most yoghurts, yes?
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make your own yogurt using a cap of polyflora in your liquid overnight

http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=BT010B%2FAB

try finding a protein powder with these characteristics appropriate to your type and physiology


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Polyflora is different for each blood type depending on what probiotic is best for each type.  It makes extremely good yogurt if you care to make your own.  



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Is rice protein powder isolate considered "nomad"?

According to the GTD book, all rice, rice flour and rice bran, except wild rice, are superfoods for Nomad.  That being said, I remember Dr. D. stating somewhere that the isolate form of protein powder is not the best, but I don't remember where I read that and I am not certain whether he was discussing a specific protein source...


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According to the GTD book, all rice, rice flour and rice bran, except wild rice, are superfoods for Nomad.  That being said, I remember Dr. D. stating somewhere that the isolate form of protein powder is not the best, but I don't remember where I read that and I am not certain whether he was discussing a specific protein source...


I feel the same way about protein isolates.  That doesn't look like a whole food to me, and is not the direction I want to keep moving in with my food choices.



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Joe,
perhaps you remember this fun sentence

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The standard American diet is far more Mars-like than our natural, earth-grown BTD.

But hey, if they want their partially hydrogenated wingnut isolate and autolyzed findabulated vestige of artificial dye #562 powder instead of a fresh-picked blueberry, who are we to argue with 'em?


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Kelley
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I don't know a lot about agriculture, but if you had a male goat you could continue to feed & care for him. I imagine his manure would be useful for farming- also, like you mentioned, he could keep the grass down. Also, some kinds of goats have hair that is used in yarn-making so if you have that kind of goat you could sell his hair every summer. Also, he would provide companionship for other goats. Perhaps the milks are no longer on the recommended list because pasteurization kills the bacteria and without the bacteria Dr. D. considers them not helpful. That is just my guess.




[quote] I'm not much on factory farm fare, even though I like cheese. If I had a cow or nanny goat As a pet to keep down the grass If I had some property,, I might use the milk If there was any, but I heard that toget milk they need to be pregnant; so what do you do if they pop out a  a boy-goat? So much for being veg. And then there's the vet bills, and possible medications in the milk. What a hassle. So, why isn't goat milk/yougurt on the list?[quote/]


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I'm in East Texas. I became a vegetarian about 6 or 7 years ago, for ethical reasons, so I will not be going back to eating meat. Vegetarians generally will eat eggs and/or dairy products, but vegans will not. My health had neither gotten better nor worse since I became a vegetarian, but I am generally healthy and on no medications at the age of 47. My only real "health problem" is that I need to lose about 30 pounds.


Hi welcome. My ex is a B and he's a lacto vegetarian. He doesn't eat eggs. He's had trouble with his cholesterol going up.  When we give up things for ethical reasons, sometimes we make sacrifices. I applaud you..   I can't take Anatomy and Physiology now because I found out they dissect cats and pigs. They raise them especially to be killed for dissection.  Some parts of education and medicine are freaking sick.  

I've been eating vegan lately. Just getting off the sugar this week. The toughest part
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Vegetarianism is definitely a choice you have to make with love and gratitude. If you harbor feelings of resentment over your "sacrifice" then that will have a negative impact on your health.
Good luck with getting off sugar! I have had some issues with hypoglycemia throughout my life, so I am always working on keeping the sugar down.




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[/quote]Hi welcome. My ex is a B and he's a lacto vegetarian. He doesn't eat eggs. He's had trouble with his cholesterol going up.  When we give up things for ethical reasons, sometimes we make sacrifices. I applaud you..   I can't take Anatomy and Physiology now because I found out they dissect cats and pigs. They raise them especially to be killed for dissection.  Some parts of education and medicine are freaking sick.  

I've been eating vegan lately. Just getting off the sugar this week. The toughest part[quote]


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Joe,
perhaps you remember this fun sentence

That isn't what I was remembering, but it about sums up my sentiment of the processed food industry...


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They are trying to keep me from eating grapes because grapes are healthy; goves you anidea what I'm dealing with...
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Hello again:
I were wondering about sulfites in dried foods(for traveling); they say that sulfites are a natural by- product of grape fermentation.
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goves you anidea what I'm dealing with...


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I were wondering about sulfites


some people are allergic or susceptible to sulfates.....if not added to dried fruit or other, you might want to have a food log and write down any given symptom



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Hi, any meat recommendations for Nomads besides red meats?
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Hello again:
I were wondering about sulfites in dried foods(for traveling); they say that sulfites are a natural by- product of grape fermentation.


Oh   Where's Possum Police! Bad Grammar Alert!      


Sorry Edward..nothing personal..  
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Hi, any meat recommendations for Nomads besides red meats?


turkey, ostrich, emu and several fish. No chicken, duck or pheasant.
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Hi, any meat recommendations for Nomads besides red meats?


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turkey, ostrich, emu and several fish. No chicken, duck or pheasant.

According to the book and my SWAMI, pheasant is a superfood (just not diamond) for Nomad...  Others listed are correct.  There are many fish in the superfoods list.


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According to the book and my SWAMI, pheasant is a superfood (just not diamond) for Nomad...  Others listed are correct.  There are many fish in the superfoods list.


Sorry I didn't have my book handy and pheasant is nonexistant locally. I can actually find ostrich and emu in a Health Food Store $$$$ but not pheasant. I don't care for duck so no big loss there. Basically it's turkey, numeous fish, goat, lamb, calf liver, and beef from what I can get locally.
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