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Kumar
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I shared around one year ago my combating of goutic conditions (and high uric acid) first by following GTD. It took me about three years to lower the blood uric acid level from a range of 9-10 to below 7 without taking any medicines and supplements. I started following BTD since early 2006 and towards the later part switched to GTD (teacher diet). After I had combated uric acid and goutic conditions, I decided to go back to BTD again. There are a few differences in food items between the two diet systems such as:

1.Cauliflower and chicken are neutral in BTD whereas they are black dot for a teacher genotype
2.Papaya and buttermilk are bad in BTD and it is beneficial in GTD
3. Goat meat is good in GTD and bad in BTD, and so on.

So switching to BTD, the major difference in my regular food intake was the frequency and amount of cauliflower (they are so tasty!) for almost eight months without a break! Changes in other types of food items mentioned above were not significant in terms of quantity and frequency, except that I now and then consumed papaya. Then a very interesting result occured: my uric acid level had gone back to 8.5! Then around two months back, I decided to mostly avoid cauliflower suspecting that to be a contributor to uric acid and now after two months the uric acid level has gone down to 7.5 and I am more or less sure that it will be below 7 in the next couple of months without any medication and supplements.

My question to the forum is: Could cauliflower be major culprit in uric acid and goutic condition? (The conventional medical literature lists it as such)

Could the raise in uric acid be due to intake of "black dot" food in too much a quantity and frequency? Thank in advance for your insights and experiences



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yup, avoid black dots if trying to correct any health issue


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I just have never liked cauliflower. It takes gross to me. I love broccoli so I eat that. I really couldn't tell ya about the uric acid thing. But good for you for figuring out what to do. I love it when people become their own healers!


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Great detective work Kumar!  Caulis are also a black dot for this explorer ... like KristaalyssaA+ I never cared much about it ... Love broccoli but hardly ever purchase or ate one before ...  




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yes there is a reason why some things are : near avoid are black dots - like in a blue moon VERY literally -not many blue moons around.. randomly thinking about a black dot once a year is a (good) blue moon activity.. running away helps.. running faster does also..

allowed Infrequently, is best during big holidays like new year and thanksgiving.

allowed frequently is maybe during some big holidays,

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My father was an AB Warrior and he had Gout. He ate too much red meat..
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I now suspect that my high uric acid and goutic tendencies have more (epi)genetic basis. I hope to get the uric acid level below 7 in the next couple of months without any medication and supplements. (In our country, the normal range for male is up to 7, though Americal Association.... has it at 8.5!)



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Welcome again after quite some time! Gout attack again came back after some months. Tried to combine lithium salt and Vitamin C, but did not work. Finally, found a place to buy cherry. Cherry did work to combat gout attack but I have a few problems with this option: it is not available readily (it is from China, packed in India and sold in Nepal tinned in syrup) and is relatively expensive. Fresh and frozen ones are hardly found. So I searched the literature and decided for other option, not practiced hitherto by anyone: increase copper by iron level in blood to reduce uric acid.

I had multivitamins with 2 mg copper (from the US!) and no iron. Took the multivitamin once a day and reduced intake of food with too high iron content. Also donated blood (to reduce iron content in blood). In about two months, the uric acid level came down to 8.5 from 10.5. When I finished the stock of multivitamins with copper, there was no substitute. I eat some shiitake mushrooms (for copper) for about a week but had problem with availability of the mushrooms in Nepal. So I was without practical options. One month later, the uric acid level was again very high.

Then I decided to take another route: consume soda (half a teaspoon in 250 ml of water, mostly two times a day and sometimes, three times a day in empty stomach) for three weeks. At the same time reduced my intake of fructose (I used to take honey regularly but quit it and quit some fruits too.) After three weeks of this new route, now my uric acid is 5.7, far below six! I checked my blood pressure regularly during the last three weeks and it has not changed significantly from my normal level (usually towards the lower side). So I will now on continue this new route and see how it goes. Baking soda is cheap and available in most supermarkets here!

Thanks for your patience!



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