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Lizzie
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Been on the GTD for a few days now and I can't get enough of home-made spelt bread topped with sliced pineapple and gouda cheese. Had it for dinner yesterday and today. And spelt bread with smooth (no added sugar) peanut butter. Super! I don't think i'll lose weight though ...


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Been on the GTD for a few days now and I can't get enough of home-made spelt bread topped with sliced pineapple and gouda cheese. Had it for dinner yesterday and today. And spelt bread with smooth (no added sugar) peanut butter. Super! I don't think i'll lose weight though ...


Glad you like the diet ...If you stick with the recommended portions, you should lose weight.
And if you do a SWAMI it considers your weight,  and it will make adjustments for portion sizes
so you absolutely will be able to lose.  

Are you eating unlimited amounts of spelt bread and gouda?


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I must stick with the minimum daily portions for grains when I want to lose weight. Something to keep in mind.


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Hi Chloe, Drea

I'm eating 6 (very) small slices of spelt bread a day and 6 small thin slices of gouda. Lots of vegetables and pineapple for my fruit, tuna, plain yoghurt, lots of green tea (about 2 litres) and a couple of decaffeinated coffees (black). Not eating a variety of foods as the ones I had got used to eating  were tomatoes, peppers, chicken, apples, pears, rice, banana, lettuce, celery, cucumber, etc, etc. So that's why I've been limited ... so much food that I can't have - that's why the cheese and peanut butter on spelt are tasting so yummy !


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I have so much more food that I can have than what I can't have - there seems to be so much choice on my Teacher diet that I could never get bored or feel limited as to what I can have. In fact I eat very little bread apart from some flaxmeal bread every so often. I try to keep cheeses to only every second or third day. I find that to keep up with my fruit, vegetable and protein intake there isn't much room left for things like bread, but that's just me.

You are lucky Lizzie being able to have peanut butter - it's an avoid for me. Luckily I also like almond  butter - especially home made.

I had people for dinner tonight and the quinoa salad was a hit - I will have to post it later, but right now I need to go to bed since it's after 11pm and I have work tomorrow.
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I thought peanut butter is beneficial for all Teachers?


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It depends on if one's been SWAMI'd or just going by the book. The great thing about SWAMI (imo) is that it is as unique as we are!


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Quoted from Lizzie
I thought peanut butter is beneficial for all Teachers?


I did an experiment one day and checked off diseases on my SWAMI (that I didn't have) just
to see how my food list might change.  If you check off breast cancer on SWAMI (perhaps
combined with a predisposition for cancer based on your family's history), SWAMI calls
peanut butter a toxin.  At least it did that for me...but without having breast cancer, SWAMI gives me peanut butter as a diamond food.  Really SWAMI is so smart and so specific that I really can't recommend it enough to everyone!



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Glad I ordered the swami this morning. I hope I'll be able to understand the instructions as I'm not very computer literate. All this talk about swami being so brilliant ... It'd better work!

I remember from the BTD book that As should eat peanuts (and snails) often because they contain a cancer-fighting lectin. Wasn't there something similar about tomatoes as well? That As have to avoid tomatoes because of the lectins, unless you have cancer and then you SHOULD eat tomatoes.



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Glad I ordered the swami this morning. I hope I'll be able to understand the instructions as I'm not very computer literate. All this talk about swami being so brilliant ... It'd better work!

I remember from the BTD book that As should eat peanuts (and snails) often because they contain a cancer-fighting lectin. Wasn't there something similar about tomatoes as well? That As have to avoid tomatoes because of the lectins, unless you have cancer and then you SHOULD eat tomatoes.



The tomato thing is specific too....http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?425
If you're type A and a non secretor and following the BTD, tomatoes are a neutral.



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Yes Chloe, you're right - no doubt why I can't have peanuts. I checked the cancer box in my SWAMI because I have had breast cancer.
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Yes Chloe, you're right - no doubt why I can't have peanuts. I checked the cancer box in my SWAMI because I have had breast cancer.


Can you eat other nuts?



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Yes, I can eat almonds, walnuts, pecans, pine nuts, macadamias - all things I love! Not sure what the reason peanuts are bad is, but then they are really a legume rather than a nut. I can have lots of legumes too, though.
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Yes, I can eat almonds, walnuts, pecans, pine nuts, macadamias - all things I love! Not sure what the reason peanuts are bad is, but then they are really a legume rather than a nut. I can have lots of legumes too, though.


Found this.....might explain why you don't get peanuts.

http://breastcancersisterhood.com/_blog/Brenda's_Blog/post/I_Can't_Eat_What/

What about soy -- can you eat that?  It's also a phytoestrogen.

I can't get this link to work right...I'm going to cut and paste what's in it..

This is from a woman's blog.  Her name is Brenda
After my breast cancer diagnosis I consulted a nutritionist and learned about the various sources of protein and decided there was a chance I wasn’t a peanut butter-aholic after all. My copious consumption of peanut butter could have been my body’s way of screaming for more protein. My shame was lifted! I also learned peanuts were high on the list of foods containing phytoestrogens and were not a good idea if I wanted to lower my risk of recurrence. Because phytoestrogens are thought to bind to the estrogen receptors in our body, and because my breast cancer was fueled by estrogen, I went cold turkey on peanut butter and am proud to say I haven’t had a spoonful since. I have, however, discovered raw almond butter.

Unlike peanut butter, raw almond butter contains no added ingredients or preservatives and has less hydrogenated oils, plus no salt or sugar. Almond butter is full of monounsaturated fats, which are good for your heart and helps control blood sugar, plus it has more calcium, iron and Vitamin E than peanut butter. As my “Type A” self is inclined to do, I took this discovery one step further and became a connoisseur who decided the best raw almond butter was from England and could only be purchased on the Internet. The problem was, by the time I converted English pounds to American dollars, and added tax and shipping, my weekly fix was $30 a jar. A small jar. If that wasn’t bad enough, I recently discovered a terrible new twist to my nut butter saga.

Some phytoestrogenic foods may actually be protective by binding to our estrogen receptors, thus blocking estrogen, which sounds like a good thing, but nobody really knows which ones are the good phytoestrogen foods and which are the bad. Oh, but wait… The plot thickens. Some experts suggest almonds may be as bad for me as peanuts. That may, or may not mean they are on the list of bad phytoestrogen foods, but not knowing, once again, I have gone cold turkey on a beloved nut butter.


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Chloe,
Are there any other nut butters you can safely consume?
I have been a peanut butter lover my entire life but as an adult, now love my almond butter even more!


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Chloe,
Are there any other nut butters you can safely consume?
I have been a peanut butter lover my entire life but as an adult, now love my almond butter even more!


Sure, there are plenty of nut/seed options, but remember, I can have peanut butter......I just experimented to see  what would be removed if I told SWAMI I had different diseases....and when I typed in cancer, it took away peanut butter. But fortunately, I do not have cancer of any kind.

So I get almond butter as a superfood, but almonds are a diamond...(go figure....what's the difference between ME grinding almonds with my teeth or ME grinding almonds in a food
processor?)

I get filberts (hazelnuts) as a superfood
Peanuts are a diamond
Walnuts are a diamond
Pumpkin and sunflower seeds are superfoods
Watermelon seeds are a diamond
Hickory nuts are neutral -- never tasted a hickory nut...

I eat a lot of almonds in the form of almond flour.  I am gluten intolerant and bake with
almond flour.


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Lizzie
some foods have different ratings when fighting a disease ie arthritis diabetes or cancer.  It is to do with the lectin activity...
changes in lectin activity occur when the body is fighting disease.
Some lectins can help Natural Killer ( our natural defense) cells to recognize and fight harmful bacteria or abnormal cells (tumors) and are to use only when you need this help.some type-specific lectins can show a preference for abnormal cells, so if you may have some of those, their negative reaction to your type becomes positive because it targets the cancer cells. Aberrant expression of lectins in the disease state was indeed how Dr. D explained this.


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Chloe - my understanding is that phytoestrogens are good for fighting (or preventing) breast cancer because they compete with estrogen for space on the receptors (or something like that - it's been a while and I have just had a couple of red wines ). Jane Plant who is a highly eminent research scientist who had breast cancer herself and beat it by eliminating dairy products, eating organic etc. and wrote a book about the hormonal cancers and the effect that consuming dairy has on them, suggests that phytoestogens are very beneficial to prevent both breast and prostate cancer, so that would suggest that peanuts should be good for me. She also said that soy is highly beneficial for the same reason. Of course she wasn't taking the BTD into account though, and I wonder if there is some other reason that peanuts are avoids for me??

When I did my SWAMI I don't remember having anywhere to say that I had had breast cancer - it was just a general cancer question, nothing as specific as the type of cancer.
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I wonder if there is some other reason that peanuts are avoids for me??


okay, you asked!!!

hope this post by Dr D slightly clarifies the whys about certain values for certain people.....
http://www.dadamo.com/B2blogs/blogs/index.php/2010/03/27/hows-and-whys?blog=24
hows and whys
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-GTDdiet/m-1202698596/#num13


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Yes, Lola, exactly - I already knew it wasn't because I've had breast cancer as I didn't get asked that question so SWAMI couldn't have known that. It would be because all my answers that I input have been taken into consideration and the combination happens to suggest that certain foods (peanuts included) are just not good for me as an indivdual, whereas another Teacher will have quite a number of different answers and so it will compute a very different result. Is that the gist of it?
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but nobody really knows which ones are the good phytoestrogen foods and which are the bad.


Dr D does!!!!


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Yes, Lola, exactly - I already knew it wasn't because I've had breast cancer as I didn't get asked that question so SWAMI couldn't have known that. It would be because all my answers that I input have been taken into consideration and the combination happens to suggest that certain foods (peanuts included) are just not good for me as an indivdual, whereas another Teacher will have quite a number of different answers and so it will compute a very different result. Is that the gist of it?



There would also be a correlation for cancer risk if a  Teacher had a high amount of whorls.....so....If I had said I had 10, I'm sure SWAMI would have seen that as putting me in a higher risk for cancer and adjusted my protective foods accordingly.  I have 4 whorls...only
family member was my mother who had cancer....and I got peanuts/peanut flour as a diamond.




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I have only one whorl.


there goes that theory....

SWAMI is just way too smart for me!

But I do know that some Teachers have Explorer tendencies...and Explorers  (going by the GTD book) have peanuts as a toxin.  





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Quoted from Chloe

there goes that theory....

SWAMI is just way too smart for me!

But I do know that some Teachers have Explorer tendencies...and Explorers  (going by the GTD book) have peanuts as a toxin.  


I think your right esp about Non-secretors (leaning toward Explorer).

Another thing about peanuts - it is on the list of foods that could have a negative effect on the  thyroid for some people. And there are probably other things to consider.

Lizzie -  I'm excited for you (swami). There are several other A nonnie here - Swami did make some changes for them.

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