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Kathleen
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Throw out all your plastic food containers

I did this weekend!!!  Replaced all my plastic containers with glass.  Found a set at Costco for less than $30.

Now I need to buy glass containers for my beef and chicken broths that I currently store in ziplock bags in the freezer.


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I like the glass wide-mouth 8-oz and 16 oz canning jars.  



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Kathleen
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Victoria,  Thanks for the tip!  I like the wide mouth idea.  Do you use the metal screw tops?


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I have been considering replacing my plastic (5) Bubba Keg with a x-large canning jar.

The problem is to manufacture a handle that will be locked into place with the metal screw top lid.  Making the lid a "sippy" would be a bonus.

"It can be done ....  We have the technology .... "  - from the intro of the Six-Million Dollar Man


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Victoria,  Thanks for the tip!  I like the wide mouth idea.  Do you use the metal screw tops?


No, I buy the plastic tops that screw on canning jars.  As long as my containers are glass or stainless steel, I'm not a purist about the lids.  

http://www.lehmans.com/store/K.....ng_Jars___9265?Args=

They are for sale all over my town in any store that sells canning jars.



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Thanks for the link Victoria!  I like the idea of not using metal tops due to possible reactions with contents.  I'm sure I can find those tops somewhere nearby.


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Mayflowers, I am with you on this... I am just reading Suzanne Somer's new book "Knockout" - highly recommended (its about Cancer prevention). I have a large stainless steel pan that is great and a La Crueset Cast Iron - I keep trying to season it - but eggs still stick to it... I don't know what I am doing wrong! Anyone know how to season a cast iron skillet properly?
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Anyone know how to season a cast iron skillet properly?

Here is a link that describes seasoning and care of cast iron...
http://www.dutchovencookware.com/lodge-cookware.html


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I just redid my hormone tests and took them on my 18th cycle day - which is the mid luteal phase.
This part of the cycle gives you a clear picture of your progesterone and estradiol levels. Well suprisingly, my Progesterone levels are fine at 13.6 (5.16-18.56 normal range). But my doc says that my estrogen is in decline: It is at 43 (49-221 normal range for Mid_luteal phase). I don't have hot flushes yet, but my cycle has shortened to 23 days from 28 days which is a peri menopausal symptom. Plus I have been having some dizzy spells, more spider veins and this belly fat...eventhough I am eating according to my Explorer plan (albeit maybe some sprouted bread with ghee and fig jam here and there! and some dark chocolate with less than 9 gram sugar and not more than 3 small squares), I cannot kick the chocolate habit - and it is a superfood... plus exercising optimally.

My doc suggested a Vivelle Dot or Evamist. Both are low levels of bioidentical hormones. I am baffled at this point as what to do. First I just ordered Dr D's Menopause book in order to see if he gives tips as to what phytos to eat for O's - I know greens are good. Cinnamon and Cucumbers are No's although they are phytos, soy is out for sure. I could take Flax Oil although it is only a neutral for me. I don't mind suffering any symptom except for the belly fat I am not used to this and I hate it!!! I am not sure I should cut portions - and if I do would it help me lose that belly fat or will it simply eat up my muscle mass??? quite confused about this...
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Oh Yes, the famous middle age spread!!!  Somehow we have managed to wake up those bad genes with our lifestyles, sedentary way of life or wrong eating for our type.  But even if you are not sedentary and very compliant, not using the right muscles at the right time can do it for us!!! I do not know how big your portions are at the moment, but I have dramatically cut down my portions at the same time that I have been increasing my exercise including abs work and slowly, but surely I am now noticing some improvements in that area.  It will get better, but not without work, not for some of us ...

I have been doing a bit of reading about the 'starvation' effect, and as long as you have a high nutrient intake in your restrictive calorie menu plan, if you decide to go that way, and time your meals, so that you are eating some protein and carbs to replenish muscles after workout, you will be OK ...

You are a lot younger than me, keep up the good work and those bad genes will not stand a chance!!!  




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I think prolonged BTD is the answer for us as it eventually allows for microorganisms in our body to be adjusted so that we can become healthy from the inside out.

Gatherers have such a propensity for belly fat that it is a sure sign of sugar being on issue way early in life.  having a flat belly is near impossible.. when the intestines are not working properly, not absorbing what we need, and not eliminating what we don't ..

changing to healthier foods is even more important for us.. I would advise any gatherer to look at the BTD for Diabetes  just to look and see what jumps out at you.. might help in the long run not for looks but for health.

as for carbs that convert to sugar we get way more then we need from vegetables, the fruit and the occasional cheat food. the good thing about that is that we get used to eating in this way and eventually then taste buds refuse the other nonono foods.  It takes a little time but the effort is worth it.

hanging on to the pyramid of food idea is just out the window.  It is old, it is damaging to our body.. thank GOD we have BTD to prevent later (middle) age from including insulin shots every day.


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Does anyone have experience with taking bio identical estradiol - such as the Vivelle Dot?
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a search might be in order......see what others have said about their experience using bio identical hormones.....
http://www.google.com/custom?q.....itesearch=dadamo.com


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Stopping all grains did more for me than any other dietary change.

Before taking estrogen, how about trying freshly ground flax seeds, black cohosh and maca?

Fembalance is a very good balancing formula that is available in the BTD store.



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also, Aromatase converts androgen to estrogen


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Good reminder Victoria, about those grains.  It seems like I crave rice!  I have to say that yesterday am I made some apple oatmeal scones with spelt as the flour.  I added some flax seeds.  Today my weight is down several pounds from yesterday.  Other than those scones, I ate salmon salad at lunch on a multi grain tortilla(which did have a bit of avoids) and took a 3mile hike, had steak & yellow squash with lemon & oregano for dinner, no wine.....I wish I could keep it up, stay consistent, get out more of the grains.   When I crave them, I wonder what I should use as a substitute.  Do you do lots of raw veggies, or nuts for snacks?  If my belly was gone, I'd be doing fine.  It's the only place I'd call fat on my right now.

I am taking fembalance and explorer supps, just saw Lola's post about Aromastase, wonder if that would help?
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Stoosh, my wife took bio-identical progesterone to boost her fertility.  I was giving her intermuscular shots.

After a couple of months of concerted effort to get everything "just right" without success we just took a break.  In her second cycle into the break, she conceived our daughter.  She found that her extreme PMS pain was alleviated after the treatment.

Bio-Identical is good, but should be monitored every cycle (     I know cost goes up and convenience down)

What kind (and at what frequency) of fat do you eat Stooshy?  I found getting my fat consumption right essential to loosing weight.


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Paul, I know that I need a good amount of fat. How much fat do you consume?
One problem with SWAMI is that it expects you to guess your macronutrient makeup -
I have actually increased in weight since transferring to the Explorer diet - just due to the fact that I have been making Spelt bread and Sprouted Bread - more grain than I was used to. My SWAMI gives me 3 portions of grains for weight loss - I think that is too much for me.
Now I am eating 1 portion of grain for breakfast only, with 2 Tbs Flaxseed. I am sure that fattier fish and fattier red meat/lamb is the best for my system.
I don't know if Sweet Potato is a more beneficial carb than Quinoa - Quinoa is considered a Superfood in my grain section  and I think Sweet Potato is a neutral for me. But it is not a grain.

I am currently eating the lowest I can go to lose weight - I cut out dark chocolate and nuts.

Breakfast: 1 Egg yolk + 3Whites, 2 Tbs Flax Seed, 1 portion Quinoa/Manna Bread/Oats
Morning Snack: Rice Protein/Egg  Protein/Hemp Protein + Water or unsweetened Almond Milk + Berries or 1/2 Apple
Lunch: 5 ounces of fish + Large Green Salad (bokchoy, arugula, spring onions) + 1/2 small sweet potato + 1 tsp flax oil

Afternoon Snack: Rice Protein + Water + 1/2 apple or apple sauce

Dinner: Meat/Turkey + Steamed Asparagus or similar+fresh veggies + 1 tsp oil + sweet potato/sprouted bread.

This is my most stringent diet ever. It will be no longer than 1 week. When I go on maintainance diet I will add 2 more fruit portions - to reach 3 fruit portions daily and add a handful of nuts and a square of dark chocolate. Also may add ghee to my sprouted bread.

By the way, my progesterone levels are good - so there is no need for progesterone cream. My estradiol levels were quite low at 43 for the mid luteal phase (2nd half of cycle) however, they are normal at the first stage. My only peri menopausal symptoms are - A cycle that has shortened to 24 days from 28, tendency to put fat round the middle which I never had in the past and some slight memory issues. No hot flushes and the like yet...

I am also taking Vitamin B Stress that seems to help, plus minerals, Multi Vitamin, Vitamin C, HTP 5, I take a Thyroid medication T3/T4, DHEA and Iodine, L-Tyrosine and L Glutamine if I have sugar cravings.
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Could it be your house that's making you fat?
Clean. Green & Lean
http://www.amazon.com/Clean-Green-Lean-Toxins-That/dp/0470409231#reader_0470409231
how the toxin-fat connection prevents you from losing weight no matter how little you eat or how much you exercise. You'll learn how reducing your toxic burden can help you stay lean for life.


Well, having lost over 10kg since early Dec, I noticed I hadn't lost any more for a wee while now, in fact since we took in a boarder, with his stinky (to me) products?!

After I taped a note to his bathroom door late one night in desperation, begging him to use it only when he was showering at college, (as I had already told him the scent hung in the air & affected me for ages after he used it) the message finally got through!! So, no more toxic smell coming through the plumbing to our bathroom, up the stair well & lingering outside his area of the house... Plus now he has left (yay!!)

Since he stopped using his toxic products in the house & especially since he left on Friday morning, my skin has stopped breaking out & I have also started to lose weight again (about an average of 3/4 of a lb a day?!)

Exercise, type of & amounts of foods have stayed pretty well the same & I have even been adding butter to my meat in the last few days & also eating a small amount of chocolate in the evenings?!

Like a lot of us Explorer types, I'm incredibly sensitive to any fumes, so whether the absence of that has helped the weight loss as well, I'm not 100% sure, but I have heard that some people's weight loss can be affected that way (as supported above)?!
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Good job, Possum!.  It is a reminder that toxins, in whatever form they enter our body, cause the body to work more to rid itself of them and detract from the important work of making us as healthy as possible.


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Thanks ABJoe!!
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btw..... I didn't remarked that I seem to have jumped into *adrenal fatigue* since some years ago... so far no wonder that I don't loose any grams of weight ... have to come along with that thema first .....


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I use adaptogens  all the time to prevent high cortisol together with  vit C, but  the green tea is not protecting me, though I drink as ton of it it since 25 30 years old , as an antiage,  but my belly fat  is a bit too much, despite I am not fat. i gained nealry 2 pounds in the last 2 years. I am walking a lot and since six months Pilates, but it  stays there  nearly all, just a slight improvement. Probably  I am too in adrenal issues. as I go to slep very late and seldom I sleep in a  bit.
Withania or Ashwaganda is useful most of all to protect the thyroid in adrenal issues, is it true ?


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No its not pregnancy!!
1) It is not lack of estrogen - )


You didn't mention if your weight had changed at all or did it just shift to your midsection?
Have you gained weight? How much?  Do you exercise? How much?
I am in the same boat since 2007. I was normal weight and suddenly I put on 30lbs which I've been trying to get off since. The BTD (blood type diet) has helped me so much to just be able to function and go through it. I used to have horrendous headaches from the hormonal changes so the BTD has really helped me.  
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Does anyone have experience with taking bio identical estradiol - such as the Vivelle Dot?


I took it. Even though I'm an A, I have a resessive O gene. I gained 10 lbs using it. I went off BHRT. You can't fool Mother Nature.  
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