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Frosty
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I went to quite a lot to making this out of this world breakfast smoothie.   I made it with compliant fruit and berries, plain Greek yogurt, fresh ground flax meal and dadamo protein powder for B/AB.  It was out of this world crazy delicious good!!!!

Then since I haven't had yogurt in a loooong time I thought I would take a peeksy at my GTD list of foods.  NOT ON IT!!!  Good grief, it is an avoid for me.  For real????  GEE WIZ!!!!

Hubby, suggested I do some good yogurt for awhile, since I have been on a high dose antibiotics.  Before anyone asks, I am on probiotic too.  John just wanted me to get some of this stuff from food too.  He really hates a pill for this and a pill for that.

I really need to SWAMI...  I am pulling out the measurements and going to do this thing.  I hope it isn't to frustrating.  I am really not up with a lot of patience today.


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My reference shows beneficial for you on yogurt.  


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Where are you looking?  I am looking under dairy.  Avoid


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Yogurt is beneficial for Bs but an avoid for Gatherers (who can be O or B, and yogurt is also an avoid for Os.)

Frosty- yogurt might end up neutral or beneficial on your SWAMI. In the meantime, having the occasional "GTD avoid/BTD  bennie" isn't a bad dietary choice.


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Yeah so confusing this is at times.  Bennie for a B, but avoid for a Gatherer.  Ugh!!!

Gotta say though.  I used a cup of the yogurt 19 grams of protein plus my dadamo protien powder and I am feeling so good.  

I am working on getting in more protein.  Summers are more difficult because I don't want to cook.  So, I will eat fruit and cottage cheese or a salad and cottage cheese.  Not enough protein.


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I use the outside grill more in the summer to avoid heat in the house.  I sometimes grill in the early morning when it is cool(er) and eat the grilled goods cold later.

Do the basics of your SWAMI and hopefully you'll get your yogurt back to at least Neutral...  The "B" part of you needs to stay happy, too!


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it's costly to buy but Kombucha tea is on ben list for gatherers. It is an enzymes, probiotic and detoxifier.


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I sometimes do that and have like poached salmon chilled on a cold salad for dinner.

I'm having salmon tonight on the barbee poached in ghee and rosemary with asparagus.  

Grilling here in the summer is hot anytime of the day.  We are lucky if it gets below 100 in the mornings this time of year.  If it does we are in the middle of a monsoon and you don't want to be outside for those.  Perhaps like 4am maybe 98, but I am not getting up at 4am to grill.


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Grilling here in the summer is hot anytime of the day.  We are lucky if it gets below 100 in the mornings this time of year.  If it does we are in the middle of a monsoon and you don't want to be outside for those.  Perhaps like 4am maybe 98, but I am not getting up at 4am to grill.

I know.  I was there for almost 4 years.  100 degrees @ 1:00AM felt really good after 120 + sun in the middle of the afternoon, though...


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True that ABJoe, true that.


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Where are you looking?  I am looking under dairy.  Avoid


Oops.  I was looking under BTD values.  Sorry for the false hope.  


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Quoted from Frosty
Where are you looking?  I am looking under dairy.  Avoid


What about kefir? Very close and may taste better in a smoothie.
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kefir for gathere also avoid.  


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Yes looks easy.  Amazing how milk is an avoid yet we heat it a little add a little acid and VOILA it is compliant and beneficial.  It's confusing too.


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When my type B Gatherer daughter was just starting to adjust to eating from the Gatherer list instead of the B nonnie list, and grieving over the loss of yogurt for her smoothie, I made her smoothies with either ricotta or cottage cheese.  Not quite the same, but it did add some creaminess and protein.  I found that it was better to use less than I would have if it were yogurt.



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I was just trying it because hubby said the live active yogurt cultures would be good for me.  I about had a stroke when I bought the yogurt $4.49 for 17 oz. container.   I guess I was use to seeing the buy 10 for $5.00 kind of yogurts at the local grocers.  I never ever liked that kind of yogurt, that is probably why they are always on sale.

I pay about that maybe a little less for cottage cheese.  I will try it in a smoothie.  Protein content not as high and no yogurt cultures, but I will give it a whirl here in a little while for my lunch.   Definitely need to bump up the protein with the dadamo powder, otherwise it won't be a meal.


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OK it's official, I tried it with the cottage cheese and not good taste combo for me.  Perhaps it is the texture, not as creamy and smooth as the yogurt.  Well pooh.

I am going to take a nap and then try the swami express.


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Yeah, I can relate.  After doing SWAMI, it took away my precious precious yogurt.  Wah! Wah!    Now I have to use Kefir, also known as baby puke.  
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Yes looks easy.  Amazing how milk is an avoid yet we heat it a little add a little acid and VOILA it is compliant and beneficial.  It's confusing too.
Talking about cottage cheese I assume?  It removes most of the whey, which takes most of the lactose (read "sugar") with it!
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Frosty, how about taking the rest of that yogurt, draining it for a few hours in a strainer with a weight on it, to make Paneer.  Then you could add it to your smoothie very safely.

And for what it's worth, Ricotta is better than Cottage Cheese in a smoothie. . . . . marginally, that is.    



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we heat it a little add a little acid and VOILA it is compliant

it does however take all night in the fridge placed in a colander to drain off all the whey....there lies la grande différence!!!


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now with your new juicer coming on its way....
try the polyflora experiment to make compliant yogurt out of any nut, legume, or grain milk you make.....check out Christina s post on her experiment


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but wait... if you feel good after consuming it why don't you keep it?  You might want to just stay with the blood type B diet. No need to feel deprived if you don't have too. I stay with the Blood type B diet and only do the more restrictive Nomad diet when I want to be super skinny.  
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Ahhhhh yes, I have thought of this in the past.

I have a phone visit with Dr. D coming up in a month and will talk to him about my goals and go from there.  I have a feeling there will be quite a bit of tweeking to my diet due to chronic pain inflammation, sugar regulation etc.  I have a litany of health problems that seem to do well on the B diet, but fear weight gain and have to watch my hypoglycemia on the B diet.

Overall, I think Frosty is a lil happier on the B diet, I just have to watch that I don't get carried away with it.  I am going to try a "test".  I am going to do the Gatherer diet straight text book for a couple of weeks and chart how I feel then going to do a strict B diet and see how I feel.

I need to SWAMI, I am in the process of getting the blood work Dr. D needs and that will help with the SWAMI as well.


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Frosty, I can sympathise on the yoghurt front.  Being an O nonnie, and now on my Hunter Swami - it's been an avoid since I began the Dr D'Adamo journey  

A couple of weeks ago, I did successfully make an almond yoghurt.  I notice that almonds are a diamond on the Gatherer diet so you could give it a go.  Basically I make my own almond milk - soak 1 cup of almonds in water overnight.  I soak mine in lots of spring water in the blender jug in the door of the fridge.  In the morning, rinse the raw almonds well - I empty the water from the jug straight into my watering can, fill jug with more water, swish, empy into watering can - 3 times.  Once rinsed, add 3 cups of spring water to the raw almonds and blend until fairly smooth.  My blender is not the greatest so I set a timer and blend for 5 mins (be careful not to cook the almonds by letting it blend and get too hot - this hasn't happened to me yet, but worth bearing in mind).  Finally strain the mixture through a nut milk cloth/chees cloth etc.  I put a mesh strainer over a bowl and use a cotton cloth to line it with and then twist it really tight to squeeze out all the good juice.  Then bottle and refrigerate your nutritious milk.  I like to add a little salt and agave nectar to my milk and give it a good shake, but it's up to you.  You can then water your plants with the strained almond water from the earlier rinsing (it has nutritional value) and dry out the almond meal left over on a non-stick oven tray on the top shelf of the oven at about 150 C for about 30 mins - you can use this as a binder for meat loaf, meat balls etc, or in baking any recipe calling for almond meal.

Phew that was long winded and I apologise if you're not intersted in making your own milk.

Anywho, once you've got this milk - you can make almond yoghurt with it.

Simply put some milk (however much you want bearing in mind that you'll get approximately 50% less yoghurt than milk in the final product) into a glass/steel container, add the contents of a probiotic capsule (acidophilus preferably), cover with a cloth and seal with a rubber band.  Leave it in a warm place (in oven with light on, boiler cupboard etc for approx. 24 hours.  You'll notice that the 'whey' and 'solids' have separated (looks pretty yuk, but it's okay).  Put the whole thing in the fridge for about 3 hours and then pour the mixture into a cloth suspended above a dish (I get a big jar, dangle the cloth in it, pour the contents in and seal the cloth into the lid of the jar) to drain for about an hour in the fridge.  The solids left in the cloth are almond yoghurt!  Simply collect the solids from the cloth to a bowl of sealable containter and mix it up with a spoon to smooth it out - add any sweetener/fruit etc you want et voila!  It will keep in the fridge for up to 5 days depending on how 'sour' it is from the byproducts of the culture.

Am rushing off to cook breakfast for myself and one hungry post-run Hunter now, so apologise for any typo's etc above.

Good luck and I hope your Swami adventure is fabulous!

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Yogurt and fermented milk products are actually a Caucasian thing. That's why they digest milk and its products better than others.

If I was you I'd try to have fermented A2 milk things and be happy that it will activate a different genotype.
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Munchkin,

Thanks so much for the info, I will use it!!!!  I use to love almond milk, but the stuff you buy at the store is so processed and so much un-neccessary sugar added to it.  My new juicer will be able to make almond milk very well, it's actually one of the reasons I am bought that one   The suggestion and info on making almond yogurt is great!!!!  What is the taste like?  




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Yogurt and fermented milk products are actually a Caucasian thing. That's why they digest milk and its products better than others.

If I was you I'd try to have fermented A2 milk things and be happy that it will activate a different genotype.


Onur,

Would you elaborate a little more about this?  I am lost.  





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Frosty

Glad to hear you'll be making your own raw milk soon!!  It's so good, I can't fathom having anything else again.

The yoghurt actually tastes really nice.  It's very creamy and reminds me of Onken rich (dairy) yoghurt from back in the days when I was ignorant of the evils of dairy pour moi    I reckon it'll be just the thing for your smoothie!

Let me know how you get on!


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add the contents of a probiotic capsule (acidophilus preferably)


glad you are implementing that ......try other milk alternatives as well.....all have worked for me so far


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Thanks will do - following the example of my (not-so-mad) scientist inspiration Cristina and experimenting with fermenting at home.  I say, 'tis good fun  


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Thanks will do - following the example of my (not-so-mad) scientist inspiration Cristina and experimenting with fermenting at home.  I say, 'tis good fun  
Sounds a tad manky??!!  

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Haha - let's just say it grows on you  


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What's manky?


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Oops, maybe we're speaking Aussie here - it means yucky  


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What's manky?
Meaning definition of the word, or query re what I was referring to as manky?

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manky = foul, gross
In context... I was joking about the idea of andy "experimenting with fermenting at home..."
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Actually most cow breeds are mutated, and this mutation causes changes in amino acids and protein. The mutated animals have histidine instead of proline.

This may seem like a small change chemically but it comes with very powerfull bad effects on mankind.

Two books try to explain bad effects of this change:

Milk The Deadly Poison by Robert Cohen

http://www.amazon.com/MILK-Dea.....268841226&sr=8-1

and

Devil in the Milk: Illness, Health and the Politics of A1 and A2 Milk by Keith Woodford

http://www.amazon.com/reader/1603581022?_encoding=UTF8&ref_=sib_dp_pt#reader-link

I think mutated milks(mostly A1) and their products deserve even more horrible descriptions.

These two links are also in my facebook page because I think this is very important for good health. This is something that people hear, fear and try not to remember anymore to feel better while taking it to their bodies. They think there must be a mistake or they can't stay away from all the bad milk products that are everywhere maybe but I think letting it be heard is much more helpful for them, and that it's a show of goodwill for anyone that can learn it with my help.

On the other side A2 milk is what mankind has consumed in 99.9... percent of their evolution and is necessary for them. It comes from ovine sources such as goats and sheep. It contains lactose, which is converted to glucose and galactose by fermentation or digestion. These are harmless and necessary simple sugars necessary for us, especially galactose. Galactose is also called brain sugar and is mostly found safely in A2 milk. A2 milk also has a good B2 to B6 ratio and is a good source of B2 vitamin.

People are actually impressed by how cows are treated in factories and stop or reduce consuming milk products for this but the real thing that should be expressed much more impressively is how bad milk is when mutated.

No matter who is reading this should know that any A2 milk and its products are much better than any A1 milk and its products for them.

Dr Dadamo may know what cause sticking in blood, what blocks polyamine synthesis or lowers indican levels, what agglutinin modifies which disease susceptibility, what component positively influences which known disease susceptibility, what activates which genotype, what causes which reactions in blood and genotype and such but he may not know the mutation and its effects, and how harmful too much B6 can be also because these knowledge come from different specializing areas.

This is a warning to anyone who consume mutated milk products.
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Just the reason why I always pick grass fed organic jersey milk over other milks
Jersey milk is A2  
You can read more about it here ;
http://www.frot.co.nz/dietnet/basics/milk.htm

being a B with milk as superfood- I think it is very important to get the best source of milk,


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Thanks for that info.  



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Now that is what I am talking about when I ask someone to elaborate!!!  Thanks!!!!!!


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Fresh goat milk, is a black dot. I've made yogurt with that. But the store commercial goat milk is "manky" I'll copy the almond recipe. I found a medieval & renaissance recipe for Almond Milk. used 2cup ground almonds and 2 cups water. So with Munchkins how too you might play around with the % and get a thicker mix. Also you can get yogurt starter. yo'gourment is what I get has 3packs last me about a year. About every 4th time I start fresh. When my fresh goat milk runs out this fall I'll try Munchkins way. Would be great all the way around.


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LECster gives us this:

Mannose 6-phosphate receptor {IC39} "P-lectin"

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Bovine Collectin 43 {CL-43} "C-lectin"

pasteurized or not, homogenized or not. Humans are the only mammal
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I would like to try this (almond milk yogurt tomorrow)

I have the almonds soaking for more than 24 hours nearer 48.

however i would like to take the skins out of the equation.

will it mater if i blanch then for 10 seconds, in boiling water, to remove the skin.

also is one polyflora capsule enough for say a pint? and when you say warm. is 21 degrees enough?

thanks again


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I'm not sure about blanching and possible removal of any nutrients?  Anyone want to chime in?

Anyway, you may be able to just slip the skins off if you've had them soaking that long  

I only used on capsule but it wasn't a polyflora cap so I can't compare like-to-like but I would start with the one the first time and see how you go.  At worst I imagine the process might just take slightly longer - depending on the number of critters you start with.

20 degrees celsius would be the minimum according to my info and 25 degrees is ideal.

Good luck and let us know how you get on

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Imo too, you won't need to blanch them After that amount of soaking, the skins should just slip off...
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tried the skins again just now, they aren't moving yet. possibly because they are taking on so much water they are massive now lol

Thanks for the temperature advice. should be interesting and if i don't get it right this time i will eventually. I'll keep you informed.

PS a question re the container that you use. is glass better than metal, as some metals kill bacteria don't they? not that i would be using silver lol but you  know what i mean.

Good i wish i could type properly!


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added polyflora capsule a few minutes ago and some golden syrup, as i though t the little bacteria might need some food on their way to making yogurt for Emily. leaving over night at 21 degrees, (that's what are house temperature is overnight. I'll check in 12 hours and see what happens.

nade about a total of 3  to cups of milk and added only one cap of p[olyflore - is that enough?

what do you all do with the left over fine nuts in the nut bag. they taste like a very mild almond butter but a bit tickling the back of the throat.


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Excellent PC, can't wait to hear how you get on.

I usually dry the almond meal in the oven on a very low temp - say 100-150 C for about 40 minutes (stiring a few times to mix it up).  This I usually freeze in ziplock bags and use to bake biscuits or as a substitute for breadcrumbs in recipes.


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I'm baking the almond meal now and roasting some other almonds too. very productive today lol


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I started with 1 polyflora per cup for my first batch.  Maybe not necessary, since the yogurt was almost too thick.  Probably 1 capsule per pint is sufficient to begin the process.  After that I just used a Tb of the yogurt per pint of milk for new batches.

I added the cultures when the milk was like bath temperature.  I never use a thermometer.  And keeping the jars of milk warm (as close as possible to the same temperature you started with) for the next hours is important, since if they cool down, the culturing will slow to a stop.



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okay the roasted almond were lovely, the almond meal is sorted.

it's been about 17 hours so far and the stuff is in 3 obvious levels

foam on top about an inch.
sort of mixture in the middle. yellowy sort of cream colour about 3 inches

then about half 1/2 inch of whiter stuff at the bottom.

when do i put it in the fridge?


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PC, I would suggest now is probably good.  Really, it should only take 20 hours max at the right temperature.

Let us know how it goes.

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okay the roasted almond were lovely, the almond meal is sorted.

it's been about 17 hours so far and the stuff is in 3 obvious levels

foam on top about an inch.
sort of mixture in the middle. yellowy sort of cream colour about 3 inches

then about half 1/2 inch of whiter stuff at the bottom.

when do i put it in the fridge?


PC, I am enormously impressed (overwhelmed actually) with the amount of time and effort you put into your food/eating plans (and helping other people )...how do you ever find time to do anything else?

It sounds like a completely full time occupation for you..


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I must admit I run out of time often lol. basically it is a full time occupation.

hope you had a great day by the way.


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put it in the fridge but it didn't seem to work so i try leavng it out again for abit longer and see, will be aeasier next time lol


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I don't think the jars of almond milk stayed warm enough.  They need to be cozy, by a warm stove or in hot tap water.   Room temp is not really going to give good results.



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It will be cosy tonight.

On the subject of yogurt, i think i might buy a yogurt maker. they don't seem very expensive.
possibly something like this one.

http://www.gibbstuart.co.uk/product/7ea80777-c682-432a-bd89-6839acf63065.aspx

any thoughts


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Any of them should work well;  glass container are certainly superior to plastic.

I like several smaller containers better than dipping out of a large one.



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separated better after i mixed it up and then left it overnight, the white bit is still very runny though. perhaps I'll leave it another night or is that starting to be too long?

The yellow liquid, what can i do with that?


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slight spanner in the works - Yogurt is high in Histamine.


So It's off Emily's list again -

Really why i don't just listen to swami sometimes .

anyway saves me buying a yogurt maker.


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Can't you make her arrowroot pudding or something similar to eat at preschool when her friends have yogurt?

I have friends who have a child with several anaphalactic allergies (diagnosed when he was an infant and the mom was on the allergen-free diet several years, until he weaned.) By the time he started solid foods, he knew he couldn't eat what everybody else was eating. It never seemed to bother him. Now, at age 7, he truly doesn't care what the other kids are eating. As long as he gets enough to eat, and acceptable sweets once in a while (he can eat conventional lollypops, plus his mom bakes him egg-free, dairy-free cookies and cakes), he's truly unconcerned if he's getting a lollypop while the other kids have 3 different kinds of cookies plus 2 kinds of cake. A big part of this is his personality, but also it's his parents' attitude and the fact that he's never known anything else.

Maybe it's time to let go of the idea that she should have food that mimics everybody else's. She has her food that's yummy and helps her  grow big and strong, and so what if it's not what the other kids are eating?


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Emily is doing so well now that I'm back to experimenting with stuff, so making almond and coconut yoghurt tonight.


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PC, I'm so glad to hear Emily's doing so well! Let us know how the yoghurt adventure goes this time! Andy


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