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Jared
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Is this guy a GT2 or a GT5? He has a wide gongal angle, but seems short legged. I think the men of GT2 are falsely accused of being Homer Simpson. I think his fingers match GT2. He could be GT5, because his head looks like one, but clearly, he has pretty short legs. By the way, he is 54 years old and far fitter than most of us here. Do you think his legs are short?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BS1f1hdV1j0&feature=related

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His lower leg isn't short enough for Gatherer, imo.  He has a well defined square jaw, and muscularity, so I would go with Explorer.

Could we use this thread to guess other peoples genotypes?  Perhaps as a fun game to help pass the time?  I think that would be fun.
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Adam, I think that I have an angle on spotting Explorer women, and some others on the board here like the sport of guessing the Genotype of celebrities.

Much of the skeletal evidence could narrow down Genotypes, but without at least the serological evidence, you just end up guessing.  This goes with the anthropological side of Genotype - is it possible to Genotype ancient remains of humans?

I would have to say that any body-builder who is torso-centric with a suitable craggy face would have to be an Explorer.  I would be willing to bet a bottle of suppliments that the "Governator" is an Explorer.

It might be hard to find someone to take my bet.  


My weight loss goal: 220 lbs.  A 6'4" dyslexic oddball: the size of a line-backer, the silhouette of Winnie-the-Pooh.
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Arnold has very long legs. He has a GT5 head. I'd say he is a Warrior.


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Arnold's definitely a Warrior in the gym if you watch Pumping Iron.  But that square jar, capability to lift very heavy, and ability to pack on muscle mass disqualifies him as Warrior in my book.  What blood type is he?  Anyone know for certain?  He's also a Leo.  A Leo Explorer with the drive to be the best bodybuilder in the world would produce a body like Arnold's easily.  Now, Frank Zane, beautiful svelte physique, is possibly a Hunter or Warrior.  His jaw is not square, but neutral like my Warrior jaw.  He lifted light and many reps and was not as big as Arnold.  Zane was the picture of grace and beauty, not big and bulky.  You just don't see them like Zane anymore, sadly.

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If you read is autobiography, he started injecting synthetic testosterone as a senior in high school, and kept with it till his early 40's...

(I think I should qualify that, as it was considered the same as any prescription drug then, until the early 80's. Getting prescriptions was not difficult, and drug companies would ship to Mexico with no problem, then people could drive to Mexico and then take them to the US with very little hassel. Sports did not do steriod testing during the 1970's.)

He could be "naturally" somewhat lighter than how we know him...

  


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Hi Jared,

The interesting thing about Steve Maxwell is that he eats a highly carnivorous diet with very little vegetables. I've attended one of his seminars and he talked to me personally about his diet. It is high fat with lots of meat, eggs, cheese, butter, with only a little bit of green vegetables and no carbs whatsoever. I attempted this diet for a while and it was a disaster for me. He could in fact be a warrior because there are many folks that seem to be warriors that thrive on a high fat zero carb diet like this. Google Charles Washington or Owlsey Stanley if you'd like further proof, who are both blood type A and appear like warriors.
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Arnold has a square jaw - a small goinal angle that almost looks like it is 90 degrees!

His face has that typically asymetrical and craggy look that is particular to Explorers.  His waist is low - a key fact that excludes Warrior genotypes.  I will grant he may have a relatively long head, but my cephalic index isn't exactly typical for Explorer either.  He has a broad, solid frame.  His politically motivated initiative for youth fitness empasized heavy exercise, and eating wide variety of primary and secoundary protein sources.  He must have had the happy habit of both exercising and eating close to his Genotype, without  knowing exactly what that is.  Steroid abuse may tweak performance - but there are limits to what can be done to the human body.  If you want to alter the length of body segments via artifical hormones, you had better start before four months.  Before four months after gestation, I mean.

Skelatal evidence alone cannot clearly show the difference among a Hunter, a Nomad, and a Warriror.  However, Explorer skeletons stick out - in a very litteral sense!  Wide heads, wide hips, and wide shoulders are typical signs that you are looking at an Explorer.

I am not saying that Warriors cannot be bodybuilders, but this one is not a Warrior - in the Genotype sense, that is.  


My weight loss goal: 220 lbs.  A 6'4" dyslexic oddball: the size of a line-backer, the silhouette of Winnie-the-Pooh.
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We need celebrity examples of the genotypes...


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A good point, Jared.

How about taking the photographs of many of the same gender and same Genotype and "blurring" them together.  You could then "look" at the six Genotypes as easily as looking at six individuals and spell out the differences.  This might be a helpful prop for starting to understand the Genotype concept.


My weight loss goal: 220 lbs.  A 6'4" dyslexic oddball: the size of a line-backer, the silhouette of Winnie-the-Pooh.
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We need celebrity examples of the genotypes...


There are celebrities listed for each genotype in the GTD book:

Hunter - Michael Jordan
Gatherer - Elvis Presley
Teacher - Bjork
Explorer - Charlie Chaplin
Warrior - James Gandolfini
Nomad - Peppermint Patty
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Jared, perhaps leaving simply the link to those two pictures would be better,
I ll go ahead and edit your post for the sake of our forum etiquette rules.
thanks!


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Yeah, for a minute there, I thought the forum had gone R-rated.  
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There are celebrities listed for each genotype in the GTD book:

Hunter - Michael Jordan
Gatherer - Elvis Presley
Teacher - Bjork
Explorer - Charlie Chaplin
Warrior - James Gandolfini
Nomad - Peppermint Patty

I know Doc D himself used Elvis as an example of a G2 in the GTD, but I don't think Elvis was a G2, based on my personal scrutinization of footage since becoming a GTDer.  Elvis' lower legs, in particular, and his legs in general, are far too long and his torso is too short to be a Gatherer.

Just my two cents.  



(Note:  when I say "too long" and "too short", I mean in relation to each other.  His legs are longer than his torso, in other words, and his lower legs, especially, are looooooooooooooonger than his upper legs.


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Okay, back to Steve Maxwell, I just saw some videos he made a few years ago when his head was shaved. Damn is he ever an explorer! I totally change my mind, no warrior head on him. His head is round - ROUND when bald. It is his thick hair on his later videos where he looks narrow headed.

Here is Maxwell bald. Total explorer now. Hair can mask head shape quite a bit!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALibjVx4CXs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1IvmLwgGF8&feature=related


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Hair changes perception.  Fashion designers use this fact purposefully.

We have to remember that there is wide variation "within" each Genotype.  I am definitely an Explorer - only extreme "Genotyping nerves" made me doubt that (for a short while).  Anyone measuring my head would be scratching theirs.  My cephalic index is pretty close to the neutral 0.75.  

Measuring jaw angle from a picture is also difficult.  The picture must be taken perpendicular to the plane of the jaw bone.  A picture from any other angle will distort the appearance of the jaw angle, without giving any metric to estimate this distortion.


My weight loss goal: 220 lbs.  A 6'4" dyslexic oddball: the size of a line-backer, the silhouette of Winnie-the-Pooh.
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Muscular people can also be nomads, with more angled jawlines.  Jackie Chan is a nomad and has a larger frame and has larger muscles.  If Arnold is blood type B, he could be a nomad.
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I bet that President George Washington is a nomad!

One of my closest friends is type AB, stands six foot three inches tall, and weighs in at a heafty 300 pounds. He is fat, (he eats far too much - he does not follow any diet at all, he eats lots of unhealthy stuff.) I bet he is a very fat nomad.


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The only Warriors in this thread are Adam, myself, and James Gandolfini. Elvis is a stretch and for the record while shorter legs and lower leg are typical of Gatherers the book more so makes it dependent on finger lengths. Everyone listed looks like Hunter/Explorer/Nomad.

Here are some more likely Warriors,

Oliver Reed
http://blog.ctnews.com/meyers/files/2009/12/oliver-reed.jpg

Andre The Giant
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IUYl.....dre-the-Giant-05.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IUYl.....dre-the-Giant-14.jpg

I doubt a Warrior could ever be much of a body builder. Look at Andre, he just got fat and gained some muscle. His muscle development is nothing like that of the smaller than him people.
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Yeah, Andre The Giant was awesome.  He is possibly a Nomad with the extremes in height.  Very easy going guy as well.  Nomads can drink beer (superfood) and he was known to pound them back and not be fazed by it.  An awesome actor, too:

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kpdge963YM1qzwfr0o1_500.jpg

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Maybe the question is if he had a Uni-brow or not.
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Here is someone I picture more like a Nomad that grew a lot, the Great Khali. He eats milk, chicken, and eggs. Apparently all day long and in enormous amounts (like up to 5 chickens a day). He also does yoga on top of his weight lifting and walking. (Type B cortisol taming?! It helped him get his game back)

http://www.onlineworldofwrestling.com/pictures/d/dalipsingh/13.jpg

Andre was much thinner as a youngster. He did drink a lot (which warriors are not bad at since they process stuff quickly) and also died of a heart attack. His heart had trouble keeping up with his body, true, but it would be more likely to have problems if he were a warrior.

http://i712.photobucket.com/al...../Andre69withgirl.jpg
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Yeah, but Andre lacks that "stressed out face" of a Warrior.  Haven't met one yet that didn't look stressed to the max in the face.  Especially from 45 years old and up.
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You have never seen my family, we are a bunch of freaks. None of us have long heads, no arch finger prints (I do not think anyways), none of us have longer legs than torso, probably only the women have longer index fingers (from those I have checked or looked at), and none of us have ever been a computer programmer or doctor. No one past the age of 45 looks stressed out in the face in particular. Very little hair loss. I am the only one with adrenal fatigue showing in my face.
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No? Why would hunters all be non-secreters?
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Arnold's book says he is Blood Type A. He lost weight faster and gained it faster than other people, in fact at an astronomical rate when it came to competitions. He ate tons of pasta and meat. Tons as in you could not stomach the same amounts.

Type A explorer.

Here is his NOT elongated head.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_kxPG.....Schwarzenegger_8.jpg

Here is his classic explorer narrow gonial angle "cut or chiseled jaw" that comes with more testosterone I am starting to think. (my family of warriors has square jaws and more long ring fingers)

http://laist.com/images/238-big-arnold-schwarzenegger.jpg

His Type B endomorphs (Gatherers probably) lifting buddies could never lose weight as fast as him but they did gain fat easily if they tried to eat as much pasta as he did, unfortunately it was fat and not muscle.
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I think I agree.
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Arnold's book says he is Blood Type A.


What book are you referring to?
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What book are you referring to?


My friend has won he wrote and he told me that it says that in it.
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What book are you referring to?

Adam,

I would assume that the personal information would be in this book, as the description says it is his autobiography...
http://www.amazon.com/Arnold-E.....281026777&sr=8-2


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I have Education of a Bodybuilder at home signed by Arnold.  Read it several times and do not recall him mentioning his blood type.  Granted it has been several years since reading it last.  Now I am curious to read it again just to see if I can find it.  Is this the book you are referring to, DoS?
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I have Education of a Bodybuilder at home signed by Arnold.  Read it several times and do not recall him mentioning his blood type.  Granted it has been several years since reading it last.  Now I am curious to read it again just to see if I can find it.  Is this the book you are referring to, DoS?


I would have to check with my friend. Adam did you ever body build?
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Oh, yeah.  Back when I was 21-22, got in fantastic shape, but still never really shed my belly fat.  Couldn't lift real heavy and didn't get real big.  Now, this was 84-85, no internet, no clue about diets or supps, and no lifting partner.  Went back at it at age 42, again no partner, couldn't lift heavy, didn't get real big, couldn't shed my belly fat, despite 4-6 miles on bike daily, and 200 situps a day.  I don't worry about it any more.  I just want peace and healthful living.  Gyms stress me out too much.  Too many jackasses workout there, too.  
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Unfortunately I am 24 and have never known what it is like to be healthy or look young and fit. I did doubt you packed on muscle... but I wanted to hear any ways. I lifted some in high school and it made me feel good but I never got big.
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Sorry to hear that, DoS.  Hope things turn around for ya.  My 21 yo son is type A+, just sent in his secretor test to Dr. D, and has done the SWAMI and recently updated his personality type on there, and it currently has him as an Explorer.  He really digs lamb (sf on his SWAMI, supposed to have it 3x week), and has recently got into weights a lot.  He did it his senior year in HS and he was looking nice and big.  He's 6'1" but at somewhere like 165 lbs.  He's real skinny and ectomorphic.  He also likes to run the few times he's done it.  I think with some weights and good amounts of SWAMI foods, and with me or someone else knowledgeable as a lifting partner, he'd really go places with his physique.  He just doesn't really have the drive to do it.  Something external would have to really motivate him.
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I think lamb is good. I like running, weights, and road bicycling. I am over 200lbs though at the same height. All those things are bad for me too. My physique goes no where. Lamb makes me ultimately really unhealthy from what I can tell. Funny how we are all different.
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Snooki, of Jersey Shore, is definitely a GT2.

Ok But what do you guys think JWOWW is.




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Wow, she is totally wow wow wow. I bet GT5.

My reasoning is as follows. This JWOW girl looks like a brunette Britney Spears. Britney Spears is blood type A, I figure Britney is a GT5 (She seems to strength test for it, she is musical "perfectionist," a "prescise" dancer with a "charismatic but choleric personality" prone to "binge drinking" and of course she is "beautiful when young.") , thus I conclude she is a GT5.

I could be wrong. This JWOW girl looks "surgically enhanced" particularly along the bust line...

She could be a hunter. Hunters tend to have high metabolisms, that would imply a lean and no doubt a very attractive physique, but not likely on a busty woman. But with silicon, even GT1s can look voluptuous...



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I thought Elvis was listed in the Genotype Diet book under gatherer type? I'll have to go pull mine out and check. That's why I mentioned him.

I have my suspicions that Gene from the rock group "KISS" is a nomad and his son too. Others I suspect to be BT Bs: Jack Black, Christina Applegate, Drew Barrymore, and lots of ther comedian actors like Adam Sandler.
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There is no way J-Woww is an ecto or ecto-mesomorph. No way. Look at pictures of her. Her sheer size is bigger than other women and men. She does not have one GTD5 feature.

Britney seems like an unlikely GTD5 with her low growth rate factor (short lower legs). She eats teacher like when she is in shape or losing weight. She does however run and lift weights (but often loses muscle as is apparent).

Elvis was said to be a Gatherer in the book. However Dr. D can be wrong. He speculated Marylin Monroe was a Gatherer but she is type AB blood (and a Nomad). However nothing makes me thing Elvis is a GTD5. Every trate that could be GTD5 can be GTD2 as well, including lower leg length. His head is not elongated, he does not have any hear between his eyebrows, he does not have any sinewy/tendon visibility, he does not have a big chest, he has no visible GTD5 issue. He had cardiovascular and weight problems like with can have... That is about all we know.

Adam Sandler a Type B? Well a Gatherer at least I would suspect. His ability to stay at a good weight would be more B than O, for Gatherer.

Jack Black and his brother are probably either A or B, would not be surprised if both GTD5.

Christina Applegate, really? She has no hips of a Nomad, padding of a Gatherer, and not bean poll skiny like Explorer type B's. She lacks the wide gonial angel of GTD2 and GTD6.


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Hey guys... can you tell a genotype from looking at someone's body? is it helpful at all?
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I think the key is that we are guessing. Nothing we say is factual, it is speculative. (Note the considerable disagreements that are in the thread.)

As to being useful? I bet not much...



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If they do not know secreter status it can at times be useful.

Mostly it is just fun.
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