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jayneeo
Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 7:52pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Victoria, a sensible approach! Thanks.
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Quoted from deblynn3
kauaian, Not boring sounds great! How fine are the onion chopped? Is that what binds the loaf together?


Oh I forgot to add 1 egg. , I also sometimes add cooked millet to lighten it up a bit.  The loaf will be dense otherwise, but I like it that way.  Me meat eater.
I often use my mini chopper & then it's fine, but hand chopping is great I LOVE onions & eat it daily.  

I hope I didn't forget to mention the minced garlic too.   If you like your veges softer, saute it first in olive oil, cool & then mix into meat.  I like mine crunchy so it's put in from the start.

I eat this several times a week, it can be frozen too.
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Has anyone else tried umeboshi vinegar?  I bought a bottle online a few months ago, & I absolutely LOVE it.  Since I can't have soy, I use it instead of soy sauce.  How do you eat sardines?  Straight out of the can?  With anything on them?  I would like to eat more but kinda find them boring.
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Victoria
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Ume vinegar is spectacular, a very complex and satisfying flavor. . wish I could still eat it.  

My favorite way to eat canned fish, both sardines and salmon, is to mix with finely chopped celery and a little drizzle of extra virgin olive oil.  I also add in a little Kim Chi or raw cultured Sauerkraut, but that's not for all genotypes.



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Thanks Kauaian I'm going to try your meat loaf tomorrow for dinner, sounds so good. I don't know what ume boshi is think vinegar is an avoid for gatherer, we already have a lot of acid in our systems. But I do miss my vinegar, one of the few things I do miss.
today I had a success of sorts. I made a stir fry like I use to only better. here's my story: yesterday I over cooked some beans (adzuki, but think any bean type will do) Since they where to watery and mushy I put in ice box. today to make the sauce for my stir fry, without wheat, or corn starch I used the jelled bean juice and chia seeds, with my usual spices, & vegetables.  I'm thinking I could use this with meat juices to make my own gravies.  Anyone out there have anyother ideas


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Victoria
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I don't know what ume boshi is think vinegar is an avoid for gatherer, we already have a lot of acid in our systems. But I do miss my vinegar, one of the few things I do miss.


Umeboshi Plum Vinegar is a Superfood for Gatherers.  It's really nothing like regular vinegar.  It's closer to the brine left from fermenting veggies, but it's the ume plum that is fermented.  It's very salty with a complex flavor that is both salty and tart.  It is used instead of salt, much as you would use soy sauce, but after the food is already cooked since it is rich in enzymes.



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Anyone out there have anyother ideas


I use a mix of beans and grains and seeds to make a foccacia bread .....flat bread, adding an egg or two.....or the chia and linseeds if not using egg.


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Also, thanks Lola, for the quote on CLA...sounds impressive. (I've used it before but just stopped for some unknown reason...)
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Victoria thinks had no idea, is there a brand name I should look for. I'll check at out HF store, but might have to get online. I want to try this, sounds like something we would use often. i bet my Hunter friend would too. She loves salt, sounds like it would be better for her.

Lola how much chia for an egg. I raise chickens so usually am egg rich, but in the winter I could use this info. (I just can't buy store eggs)


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When I first found out I could have umeboshi vinegar I couldn't find it in any of the Health Food Stores in my city, so when I was down visiting my mother in Victoria I found it and bought up 6 bottles to take home with me. The brand is EDEN SELECTED, and it's called UME PLUM VINEGAR.  But alas, when I did my SWAMI it went to a black dot item for me.  I recently measured a girlfriend and she's a Gatherer, so I gave her a bottle.  I was using it on my salads with olive oil.  Now it's back to my lemon & oil.



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the umeboshi plum vinegar is so salty, measure by the tiny spoonful.
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Thanks, for the info BCgal. I haven't done swami but would like to later this summer. If my HF store has it I'll get some my DH will use it if turns out I can't at least till I can get him tested.


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I'll remember that jayneeo!


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How do you eat sardines?  Straight out of the can?  With anything on them?  I would like to eat more but kinda find them boring.


I add my fermented veggies and onions to make a paste


linseed for bread, I d subs an egg for about a Tbsp of ground linseed in the recipe......but I do use egg fyi


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it must be a japanesse company becuse umme is japanese for plum. they LOVE plums over there, and do all kinds of stuff with them.


nothing to do? who has that!?
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It's not just made by one "Japenese company"; it's a traditional Japenese food! Eden is one brand that  bottles it and makes it available in the USA, and it's certified kosher. There may be other brands available that aren't kosher, but I haven't looked for them. I absolutely love that stuff- it's a great substitute for tamari when I want that "Asian flavor" in my food. I still use tiny amounts of tamari (a black dot on my SWAMI), mostly in cooking for the whole family (when I use tamari AND ume vinegar) but I sprinkle ume vinegar liberally on my eggs in the mornings, on my portion of basmati rice with beef stir fry, etc.


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I love it also, ruthiegirl!  It became a black dot for me as a Nomad, but maybe it will hop back up on the charts when I finally finish my Swami.  



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worth making our own fermented plums with sea salt exclusively!!!


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Lola, plums are an avoid for Gatherers, so does the fermention change that and is this the same as the umeboshi vinegar you buy. Would I use fine sea salt. I can get plums (darker the better?)

Guess what I'm asking will this homemade have the enzymes in it. Do the enzymes all come from the plums? Fermention is new to me, so far, I've not like brim fermention.

Ok I love wine, (Yeast) my DH makes our wine, 3 5gal, jug of elderberry going now. No flu here


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I'm pretty sure the Umeboshi Plum is not the same variety as what we are accustomed to eating.



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Quoted from Lola
worth making our own fermented plums with sea salt exclusively!!!


The brand I bought comes from Japan, they use sea salt & the trees are grown pesticide free for many, many years.
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I ferment anything beneficial on my list, avoids I do not bother with


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Lola,
What kind of containers do you use for your fermented vegetables?  And what type of covering/lid do you use?

I'd love to hear some more detail on how you do this magic.  



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stainless steel and use a cloth to cover while fermenting 3 or 4 days......make sure to move the veggies at least once a day, then I put the lid on and refrigerate.


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Ok, so not a good idea to use plum that I can get here. I'm a gatherer plums are an avoid. That what got me about the "umeboshi plum, vinegar" since vinegar is out as well. I understand now that it's not a vinegar, wonder what make the plum different.  Kauaian could you give me that brand name again?  please


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