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deblynn3
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BD 's grandmother, (my mom) was kicked by a mule in the area of her pancreas, this is want her sister thinks. But she was exposed to TB as a teen,which can settle anywhere in the body. all anyone knows for sure is that her pancreas just stopped working shortly after that.  As a result by the age of 14 she was a type 1 diabete She was an type A. blood  and the only person we know of that has ever had diabetes in her family and non of us are diabete. Ofcourse we've always eaten like diabete because that's how mama cooked and you ate what she cooked   


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battle dwarf
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you also get alot of type 2 diabetis after major sergeries(tramas)


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DEBLYNN 3  """""" Of course we've always eaten like diabete because that's how mama cooked and you ate what she cooked   """""" ... NOW MY QUESTION -- do you see any signs of getting diabetes in old age?  

NOW THAT is why I was aking.. in the THREAD on being hypoglycemic --- I answered that I think we could PREVENT diabetes in us (gatherers) if we KNEW that we ought to look at eating not only for our blood type.. but for the propensity of developing what our GRANDPARTENTS have... (parents are younger so they dont have clear signs YET) ..    ...

THE diabetes book food list for O's is soo different from what I ever ate before .. that I have to learn to cook and to eat .. what is on the list.. THAT showes me - THAT what I ate for 66 years - never ever supported what I needed to stay healthy????  


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no, I really haven't, mama keep her blood sugar under control. (she was lucky, not everyone can do that) and has been no signs on diabetes in her children or any grandchilden.


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I don't have the diabete book. I do know that the Doc. always complained that mama didn't eat enough protein. She ate lots of vegetables and fruit. She was an A type blood and we now know that is what they should eat. But daddy being an O as well as all three children. She did have lean meat. Looking back only thing we ate alot of not on our list today were the white potatos, and pork. But we ate mostly beef for meat. We ate alot of rice (white, we're talking 1960s here) She loved rice. dinner 1-protein, 1- green vegetable, 1-starch. and bread if you wanted. Peas, corn, rice, potatos, pasta were all counted as a starch.


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I think you are 'testing' the point Dr D makes with this generational thing.. either you get it .. or you don't.. or you can prevent it if you know why and how.. --- NOW , you don't have diabetes in your family as your mom was injured.. but the benefits might be coming down in your foods.. --- and just maybe, all the O's in your Family are Hunters???? skinny and long??

Its the Gatherer part making me guess at this.. short legs round figure and Gatherer..

I admire your mom for he ability- I am never going to be able to do that.. I try I fail -I try and I do better-  and then I go back to the book and LEARN>>>  and try again...

and one more thing about moms doctor.. HE was ahead of his time.. smart..  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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All my family are gatherer, I don't see any long legs, but even daddy's side are geno strong, my dad is in his 80 most think he's in his 60s. He still works the land. help put BD steel up on her 2 story roof etc, etc. His mother lived to be 98. Her main health was osteoarthritis, which is why I started the BT diet. Only alot of my problems where with wheat.


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INTERESTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks...  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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debblyn and BD...your family musta been doing something right! (food sounds pretty good...)
more power to ya!!
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Sorry I had to run off, I hope any of this  info helps Goldie. Thought you might want to know that I don't know what the mix of blood types are in family. My guess is my mom's dad was A, and her mother may  have been an O. I never met her she died in the early 50s menignitis.Both my dad's parents likely O. His mom was native American Indian. Father German. I'm hoping to do swami but will have a hard time on family history.


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Cristina Silva
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Hello!
I´m portuguese female, O+, Non secretor, and Gatherer too.
I would like to know if Goji berries are beneficial for us?
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You can help the other members of the forum help you by choosing a blood type shield to display beneath your name.

how to
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-ref/m-1219018887/

Welcome!

use the search feature and or The most recent rating of a food can be found using typebase:

http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/typeindexer.htm


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''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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Hi Cristina! Welcome! My personal SWAMI (computerized software that combines BTD and GTD for my personal needs) lists goji berries as neutral, but I don't know what their status is for Gatherers in general. If they're not listed anywhere in the GTD book, then you can assume they're neutral.

There's definitely diabetes in my family. My maternal grandfather died of it (alternatively, you can say he died of depression when he stopped taking care of himself and let his diabetes get out of control.) My mother currently has diabetes. She was on glucophage for a while, but is currently controlling her blood sugars through diet. I had gestational diabetes when I was pg with my son, so I know I'm prone to blood sugar issues (and really, the only times my blood sugar was out of control during the pg was when I took those stupid GTTs. I ate a high protein, moderate-carb diet while pg because I felt good when I ate that way.)


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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you can get it though the site. so to the top of the page, it is under products.


nothing to do? who has that!?
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The train wrecks is what started DrD down this path.. and the fact that he was A does not even surprise me.. its the best way to find out why O's are so different..


BUT THE prevention factors given in GENO is incredible.. even though I have gone back to the 'conditions book diet lists.. '  I still learned so much on how to prevent diabetes or at least know why I have it, got it, have it or how to deal with it , and how to prevent it in young people..  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Hey:

This is Andoni, from the Basque Country (Spain-Europe), and I'm also a gatherer (O+).

Just wanted to ask you for some help:
1.Can we afford cottage cheese, or it's too fatty for us?
2.Why is kefir, for example, prohibited? Don't understand, because you could fermet it with skimmed milk and eat the protein part.

Thanks! I did my contribution with my garlic cream some months ago. I hope many people enjoyed it.

Talk back.
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Can you get low-fat cottage cheese where you live?  It is an option in the USA. . also fat-free for those who want it.

Kefir has a lot of whey.



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Talk back to you!

get a swami......you might get all your favorites back and again, you might not....

but at least it will be just right for you

about the why this is good and that ain t and so on and so forth.....
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-nonnie/m-1205857140/s-all/#num12
try making sense of this, or simply trust Dr D s expertise,in
biochemistry which is amazingly and beautifully complicated
I choose this second option cause I m not very versed in complex nutritional deductions


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Hey:

This is Andoni, from the Basque Country (Spain-Europe), and I'm also a gatherer (O+).

Just wanted to ask you for some help:
1.Can we afford cottage cheese, or it's too fatty for us?
2.Why is kefir, for example, prohibited? Don't understand, because you could fermet it with skimmed milk and eat the protein part.

Thanks! I did my contribution with my garlic cream some months ago. I hope many people enjoyed it.

Talk back.


I am questioning the cottage cheese as it is avoid in some places.. and then again added in others.. BUT for me I am not going back to any dairy.. I am not looking for belli aches..

BUT I am not answering your question.. BUT I PERSONALLY don't care for anything low fat.. if the mess with it ---- it becomes a mess..  whole or nothing.. eat less.. or leave it .. but the best way would be for you to try it on your self..

if you get gas its off, if you get cramps its off if you are ok with a little here an there.. ok then.. so long as it lets you sleep and keep you regular..



Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Andoni,
I eat sheep and  goat cheese with no problems. Gatherers can have cottage cheese and ricotta.
You don;t need to worry about the fat in it if you don't overdo it.
I notice that you are lacto vegetarian.....I once was too, but am glad I learned the importance of pasture raised meat and wild fish....it has made a big difference in my health.
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Hey:

I appreciate a lot your answers.

I know dairies aren't a good option, and that we must have them in tinny quantities, but it's also true that dairy has high quality proteins, and a great taste!

I hadn't think about the whey factor until I read your answer. Thanks! Anyway you can get rid of it if you make it at home, I mean, ferment the kefir for many days and strain it.

Anyway I have quite lazy intestines, so I have to clean my meals of fat, and chew them a lot. I also have my skin tattooed every time I have my body pressured against something (as when you have your arm laid on a chair's arm), and I have to have plenty of aerobic exercise to get rid of my belly, that's why I prefer to put my eye on low-fat food, even if I can be quite possessed by chocolate's sweet spirit, haha.

Gatherer's to the power!
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This is the third week that every weekday I've done my Three Mile Walk DVD.  I've lost 5lb. (ok some of that may have been water) But that's good. I want to take off this last 15lbs. Although I've always know that as a Gatherer I have to really work up a sweat. I'd gotten lazy this winter. Springs sprung. so it's out to the yard and into the garden. Happy that I've taken those 45min. each morning, getting me ready for the world. Who I'm sure like me better now that I'm not as gumpy.
debbie


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good work, Deblyn!
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also true that dairy has high quality proteins


not necessarily for Os.....
high butyric acid content in certain forms of cheese for certain O GTs and physiologies, yes


displaying messages under the avatar:
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-ref/m-1219018887/#num1
or you can add vegetarian in your signature line somewhere.....
helps people give you better advice


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