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Lola
Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 6:36pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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time for a swami!

also check this sup for water retention
http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NP044


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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Goldie
Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 7:12pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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A THANKS for both and all other advice' .. will look into it..

BUT I really do think I am right 'changing' again.. the foods are so natural..

I wish to hear from GeminiSue.. see what she says to the self discovery above..

I struggled for a year only to make a discovery in one of your threads.. thanks  

  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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kauaian
Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 7:23pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Quoted from Goldie
I have water retention since I was a teen.. I suffered from wheat /grains. Today I am still getting it but am able to control it with Ondamed.. used to take pills that where not good for my kidneys.. walking and exercising all did not make much of a difference.. YET I THINK happy HORMONES where a major improvement for a time.. wish I could get hem back..

I think for me not much changed after Gatherer.. but I changed to turkey more than meat and I think I see a big difference to my attitude towards food.  My stomach grumbles much less, I am calmer?? and now drinking tea instead of decaf.. I think is a big plus.. I seem to be energized as with caffeine but not drive 5 miles faster as I used to do.. and again my stomach seems to be happier.. asking for less food in between..

IT was all a 'trip' to get from point a to z and BTD is my salvation no matter what Beneficials I eat.. ON BTD GENO I certainly am suffering much less and need so few in drugs that big pharma all can go bankrupt on what they get from me.. that is THE BEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 'Monsanto's" revenge - get healthy with BTD and shop at NAP. e1 .    


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Kyosha Nim
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My swami gave me a food list similar to yours, interesting?
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Goldie
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O .. age and gatherer all makes us cousins.. are you diabetic??   interesting..

I just learned that most of the veg i bought yesterday where only neutral .. ok but I could improve on that.. then more fruit is better for getting rid of water retention..  

The loooong way around was great,, I learned a lot from all..

does your Swami advise on supps?? I would like to know just in general..  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Lola
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Quoted Text
more fruit is better for getting rid of water retention..  


that doesn t apply to me.....individuality is important


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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Raquel
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ok...



Teacher's motto, "all you need is love".
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Goldie
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I went shopping for my new food list and found surprisingly few items in the shop, so now I have to expand and look a little further from home which might be a good thing as I might finally shop in a store that has more local & organic stuff.

After last night's escapade into to avoid land, I am done with going over to the dark side.. my reward will  be the compliant foods - surprisingly quite a intro to some new stuff I never really ate before.

as for Gatherers .. is there a way we particularly use to deal with change?? or with self denial or rewards?? is there a COMMON THREAD ON HOW TO COPE?

  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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jayneeo
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This is it! We're creating it as we go! Here's an example:
my DH and I have an anniversary coming up and we picked a restaurant.........(one with the to-die-for Rueben sandwich...) and then I read your confession.....! Zapped me out of my stupor and I told DH we are picking another restaurant, very fancy, that has a fish dish I will have instead!!!
So, thanks!
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Lola
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great choice!


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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no deaf ears here..   hapy celebration and feeling good after words too..


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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geminisue
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Just read your thread about taking the test, and deciding whether to change to diabetes BTD or stay Gatherer.  I would follow what the test reveals, for you unless you decided to do swami, than I would say that is your personal diet, and it might be a bit of both put together, according to your answers.  Why don't you try diabetes btd for three weeks and see what happens, to your glucose count, and your weight and then decide or ask questions here or give me a call.  
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Thanks Geminisue.. I am doing BTD diabetes .. I took another look at the foods in that book and even the protocols.. verrrrry interesting.. I think it reveals  shortcomings in my previous life interpretaions of how much I might be affected by 'diabetes'

I missed you .. where where you??
.. your tel conversation made a big difference to me.. thanks.  Please keep my number and ring only  - no need to leave a message I will see that you called.. and I will return the call.. again thanks..   happy easter too  

I would like to see what you think about my post in the Hypoglycemiv thread..   its info is connected to the diab book ..  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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geminisue
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Sorry, I haven't posted much due to having a headache in the back of my head for three days, gone one day, came back for one day, then I seemed okay, thought great I'm good now, so what happens, I get severe pains in the upper right leg, so severe, I had to get my cane out, first time in years, (thought I twisted wrong, but not sure, today from walking with the cane yesterday, my right upper arms is hurting real bad like right in the middle of the upper arms.  I don't know what is happening to me, guess I'm feeling my age, right now.  

Food is going great, I am losing some weight, I am drinking enough water, so all is good in that department.  Thanks for asking.
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Goldie
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Geminisue.. could the pain be neuropathy?? I don't know about the headache,, but the leg?   That can really hurt, but a cane would only tax other areas.. the middle of the arm could be like a triggerpoint coming from up in the shoulders neck area..  I was stunned by DR D' s fullness of the advice in the Diabetes book.. he adresses neuropathy so clearly but I did not recognize it before.in the sups he proposes .. . I needed to go all around the mullberry bush only to come back..

I hope you will feel better.. is cayenne on your list.. could it help?    


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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battle dwarf
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back of the head is usly one of toe couses. neck strain or sinuse. as it comes and goes i would sugest an antihystamene next time it hits.


nothing to do? who has that!?
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geminisue
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It was the first time I ever had it, and I'm almost 65- what is toe couses? Is it associated the the pain in the back of the head?  Thanks battle dwarf

I don't think it is neuropathy, as it is in the groin/hip area, and if I touch the bone on the side I could run my finger up and down where the pain is.
When I feel neuropathy, it is usually more of a numbing sensation with a pain and seems just under the skin, not associated with the bones, that I can tell, but I am just beginning it, and am able to wiggle the toes and get rid of the numbness, and message it to get rid of the discomfort, it is something I can deal with.

Thanks for the ideas, after resting for many hours last night, this morning it is not quite as severe, but definitely still there, its like I move my left leg forward, then bring my right leg along to meet it.
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I think she meant to say 'two things'..neck or sinus...

  I think from what you describe you did soemthing to your lawer back where th hollow is in backk .. if rest helps then rest it.. take your sup's.b ..]

nero-pathy is only numbness After the damage is done.. pathy .. not so good..  

but you describe more a back issue.. for now.. eat cayenne pepper?  

Did you read my story about what I think about getting diabetes on

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1270231249/

I would love to hear what you say..


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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  I wonder how many Gatherers here have diabetes in their family history??


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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My older brother was diabetic, as is my half sister.  My dad is diabetic and his father was too.  I have strong leanings toward it myself and am really trying with my diet and supplements to not let it go any further.



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Kyosha Nim
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Yeah, we have it in our family history.....that's a strong possibility for gatherers.
I will read your story, Goldie....
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yeah that is want i meant. i apologize for my spelling. some days are worse than others. only one diabetic in our family and i think it was a trama induced injury while the subject was in their latter teens. it is usuly hyperglycemia we have to wacht for.


nothing to do? who has that!?
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It was hyper at a younger age, then things changes as one ages, if they don't learn to eat right, soon enough.  Battle Dwarf, you should be fine, your here, and eating good.
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um...diabetes is not a trauma induced injury....but maybe I misunderstood.
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