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jayneeo
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it's a salted plum.....(that's why its so salty)
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hey, it s not either or......it s enjoy either one

fermenting enhances the enzymes......but I enjoy my food using any cooking method as well......this is not a straight jacket approach!


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Umeboshi are pickled ume fruits common in Japan. Ume (Prunus mume) is a species of fruit-bearing tree in the genus Prunus, which is often called a plum but is actually more closely related to the apricot.

Umeboshi are traditionally made by harvesting ume fruit when they ripen around June and packing them in barrels with salt. A weight is placed on top and the fruit gradually exude juices, which accumulate at the bottom of the barrel as the fruit ferments. This salty, sour liquid is marketed as umezu (often translated as "ume vinegar"), although it is not a true vinegar.

~ from Wikipedia



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Victoria
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Lola, thanks for the recipe directions on the fermenting process.  Which vegetables have you successfully fermented?



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Quoted from deblynn3
Ok, so not a good idea to use plum that I can get here. I'm a gatherer plums are an avoid. That what got me about the "umeboshi plum, vinegar" since vinegar is out as well. I understand now that it's not a vinegar, wonder what make the plum different.  Kauaian could you give me that brand name again?  please


http://www.kushistore.com/acatalog/The_Kushi_Store_Umeboshi_Plum_Products_17.html

This is where I got mine.
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Thanks Kauaian I put the site in my favorites. Couldn't get meatloaf made yesterday, waited to long to set Hamburger out. so will do tonight.  Thinks again deb


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Just make sure you are able to read the ingredient list in whichever brand you buy.  Some of the ones packaged in Japan have a sugar and food dye in them.

I use the Eden brand, from my local health food store.



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That's the brand I use too.


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I was just in my local HFS & saw that brand.  The one I order has the same ingredients so when I run out, I'll buy that brand & save in the shipping.  I did get a a large bottle though so should last a very long time.
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Thanks Kauaian I put the site in my favorites. Couldn't get meatloaf made yesterday, waited to long to set Hamburger out. so will do tonight.  Thinks again deb


Hey Deb,
I just clicked on the link I sent you earlier & noticed it listed only the plums.  You have to type in the search umeboshi vinegar & you will see the one I bought.  I got the 32oz size & that should last me a long time.  I did see the Eden brand in my local health food store so I can get it there & save on the shipping.  I do love the one from Kushi so I hope it tastes the same.  The ingredients are the same, no dyes or sugar.

Also, because of the large sized bottle I had to get a dispenser like the ones you get for soy sauce, I found a 2 pack @ Wal Mart.  
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thanks Kauaian I'll explore the site, I've learned so much, I'm going to get a divided notebook to kind of organize everything. Our meatloaf was delish   WH and I both liked it, so will be added to my Gatherer cookbook. I've been making my own tinctures for the past couple of years I'm sure I can find a bottle somewhere. My Dad and WH like hot sauce those bottles are great. We do have a Wal-Mart about 15miles from here I'll be able to find something.


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I have a question about how to do the protocols, not sure which thread, but since I'm a gatherer here goes. In the encyclopedia are you to take all the items listed or just choose just one. I took it you were to take all. In The Geno book under supplement guide I choose just one item something in the wording. Am I doing it right. WH wanted to know why he was getting so many caps. (sinus health) he took everyday for 4weeks now i'm wondering if I over did it.


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Thanks, Lola  

so glad you are so very patient with us. I'll go back and reread. so many new things to remember and learn.


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well, gatherers, I am pleased to say that I have budged my weight just a bit recently! It certainly takes vigilance, as Peppermint Twist can attest. So...I have just budged the scale down about 3 lbs, but my body gave those three pounds up so grudgingly I consider it a victory.....and now I proclaim myself on the march downward!
I found that what makes the difference is not what I eat...I already eat all the right things....but it is eating less. (newsflash, huh? )
Yet I have turned more closely to my swami to help and it has helped!
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Congratulations, Jayneeo, and good for you (for being persistent)!  



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....
well let's keep this thread active!
What new foods have any of you (us) tried?
I tried mangosteen juice (with a few other fruits, but mostly mangosteen)....it was delicious! its a diamond on my swami.
(The weather keeps changing here! wow, now its sunny! )
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by Jayneeo....    ....... I found that what makes the difference is not what I eat...I already eat all the right things....but it is eating less. (newsflash, huh?  )

I did the same... but .. I did it by eating (only) 2oz of turkey and veggies.. 1 egg instead of 2 and veggies.. I have done it a few days.. and surprisingly I am not starving.. my scale only budged less than half a pound.. but I am an my way down.. and I have HOPE..

The big thing I think is that I also STOPPED coffee.. !.. and now I drink black tea..  seems to be ok.. I finally realized that its the ACID that makes me need to eat.. so no coffee .(GAVE UP CAFFEINE FEBR 1-10 so no issue with headache had it then)  so . sleepy time 'turkey' and more peace in the belly.. for a snack I have still a corner of melted choc.. and at night a lick or two on a reg sugar cherry candy and then I spit it out.. naturally compliant veg..


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wonder were i am going wrong. i read what other people eat and mine seems like nothing in comparasen. i am almost 100% compliant at this point. making most of my own food and not eating alot of anything. and yet i put on a skirt today that used to just fit with out falling off anf it just fit enouph to wear comfortably. it just makes me want to cry.


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You said : wonder were I am going wrong

The answer is Nothing..We are gatherer... so ONE of the issues I KNOW about is that: the body adjusts to every thing FAST>>

when I started to eat onions I used to run to the bathroom.. in a few days it stopped, when I first gave up all grains and all other non beneficials.. I lost the first 20 pounds without trying, but then it stopped, as I am more and more compliant I have some success in loosing a little but no where near the results of someone new here.. the loss is much smaller, but the HEALTH gets BIGGER and that is where I want to be, need to be, and aim to be.

I find that as the many years went by I have never strayed from not wanting health over weight.. but AGE has something to do with it also.. AGE for woman is a struggle.. when we are still having all our hormones we have muscles, later they turn to mush.  When we are 50 we start having sleep issues and that makes us eat just a smidgen more trying to stay awake in the day time / so the battle is on.  then we get to be 60 and we move less, we start to slow down, make our stride shorter and don't stand and sit as tall.

by the time I am 65 I FEEL that I also need to eat 50% of what I ate only a few years ago in terms of amounts.. but with BTD I at least keep the quality.  And finally here as Gatherers we are prone to water retention and that just blows all visible efforts to the wind..

by the time we are 90 we will eat very little either that or we have to take up tennis..  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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BD - age 27 hormones- water retention?
I think I remarked that I also put on weight after going on Gatherer diet. I'm still eating diamonds but have cut down on the how much per-serving, I was getting comfortable, with the nuts and seeds. It takes very little to make a serving. Until the garden comes out our vegetables are kind of limited here.  So maybe you need to recheck and make sure of your portion size or maybe there are some hidden extras in a newer food you hadn't noticed. If you want to check anything come get my food scale for a little bit.


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I have water retention since I was a teen.. I suffered from wheat /grains. Today I am still getting it but am able to control it with Ondamed.. used to take pills that where not good for my kidneys.. walking and exercising all did not make much of a difference.. YET I THINK happy HORMONES where a major improvement for a time.. wish I could get hem back..

I think for me not much changed after Gatherer.. but I changed to turkey more than meat and I think I see a big difference to my attitude towards food.  My stomach grumbles much less, I am calmer?? and now drinking tea instead of decaf.. I think is a big plus.. I seem to be energized as with caffeine but not drive 5 miles faster as I used to do.. and again my stomach seems to be happier.. asking for less food in between..

IT was all a 'trip' to get from point a to z and BTD is my salvation no matter what Beneficials I eat.. ON BTD GENO I certainly am suffering much less and need so few in drugs that big pharma all can go bankrupt on what they get from me.. that is THE BEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 'Monsanto's" revenge - get healthy with BTD and shop at NAP. e1 .    


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Good one, Goldie! (Monsanto's revenge!)
Well, Battledwarf, we're all in this together! As gatherers, we need to be very careful with portions, and move, move, move. (I'm off to Nia!....a dance class that I love)
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en estos lados tambien!
como Cuernavaca es considerado un centro vacacional, ya te imaginaras como esta!!!

creo que tu mejor parametro en saber si CULTIVOS LACTICOS, son permitidos, ya que no sabemos que ocupen en su proceso de origen, es tu propio organismo.....

si sientes distencion o inflamacion al ingerirlos y tal, evitalos, asi de facil.


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OK NOW I HAVE another question for Diabetes ll .. and what food??

should one eat more veggies which have carbs or more Protein??


the post was going to end here.. but then... my mind cought up with me


and I just did the quick test on

http://www.dadamo.com/which_diet_is_right.htm

and I am more O BTD than Gatherer!!!!!! so what am I to think - in the end I am going on the BTD diabetes book.again???? I read it aging and think I have to amend my food to be 'that' book compliant..  

Just checked!!!!! for a O Nonie with (propensity to diabetes which I intend to lick in time here are my choices:  


MEAT: Back to Beef! nice..  

FISH: I dont' look at.

TURKEY: is just a NEUTRAL in DIABETES book!!!!!!!!!!!! darn it.. I am tripping over me every which way..

EGGS: the same Neutral not even beneficial - forget about super.. darn it...

OILS:  What is Borage super B .. just talking I can look it up..
-Olive is only beneficial not super

NUTS:  Filberts are super so are also Flax and Walnut, Pumpkin is beneficial.. while Almonds (I KNEW IT ) are avoid for O Nonie's!

BEANS: Green, Fava, Northern = SuperBenef.  
-Adzuki, and black-eyed peas= Benef.. Page 50 and 53 are in conflict.. re green beans??

GRAINS: no super B but Essene bread is Benef.. is it not dry and tasteless no sugar??  Ezekiel is only once in a while..page 51 and 52 are confusing about Essena.. I don't like it anyway.. so no biggie.

VEGIES:  Beet greens, Broccoli, Chicory, Collard, Escarole, Kale, Mitake, Seaweed, Spinach, Swiss chard all Super B..    
-Artichoke, Carrots, Dandelion ! Horse radish, Kohlrabi, Romaine, many mushrooms I don't eat, Okra Onion Pumpkin Turnip Fiddle head, Garlic are all Benef.  I like some of these better than Gatherer..

FRUIT: Blueberry, Pineapple, Plum, Prune are Super..
-Banana, Cherry, Figs, Guava, Mango, nonies also Avocado and Prickly Pear and Pomegranate, are Benef.. nice I like all.. (but I will stay away from banana and not over due it.. high glycimic..)

SPICES:  Fenugreek, Super B...  
-Carob, Ginger Horse radish, Parsley, Cayenne Pepper, Sea weed and nonies Basil, Bay leave, and Yeast brewers and bakers, Oregano, Saffron, Tarragon  are Benef..    
-nonies Turmeric moved to seldom neut. as is Choc!!!!! )  
-Cinnamon, Mayo and Apple cider vinegar, Stevia -I never liked  = 100% AVOID!

HERBAL TEAS: Green, Dandelion ( drink in juice form) Fenugreek tea?? I wonder what it tastes like? Ginger I like.. all Super B...
-Chickweed, Hops, Linden, Mulberry, Peppermint, Rosehip I like lots Vit C, Seltzer and club soda Sarsaparilla, Slippery Elm all Benef...  

Sups:   if I read it right ===== 13 Sups form NAP.. no way.. but maybe that is the way to LICK DIABETES??

DOES THAT MEAN I AM LEAVING THIS THREAD?? and all of you dear friends???   no way -- but I do have on inkling that I might move over.. and start a Diabetes ll thread.. anyone have on opinion???

This thread is my new shopping list!


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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