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Hi Sharon, I still try to see my fingerprints mostly with a small reading magnifying glass. I can't get decent prints by the regular method. It's been that way for some time now. We'll see as I continue on the plan. Wish I knew about all of this earlier in life.....  |
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Hi Paula, I know what you mean...I wish I knew about Dr. D's work 10 years earlier. It would have made things much simpler but I'm thankful to have this information now. |
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im still waiting for my whitelines to disappear.. will it ever disappear for Nomads?  |
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im still waiting for my whitelines to disappear.. will it ever disappear for Nomads? 
It has to do with your gut healing.  I have mostly ulnar loops, one whorl (right ring) and two arches (index fingers). Debra  |
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im still waiting for my whitelines to disappear.. will it ever disappear for Nomads? 
No.  I gave up waiting and went back to eating a little bit of spelt on occasion as the gluten-free grains (especially rice) seem to increase my tendency toward hypoglycemia. (seven loops and three arches here) |
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Three worls, 6 ulner loops, 1 radial loop/composite |
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I have 9 ulnar loops and one (right hand index finger) arch, which is EXACTLY the same for my two daughters, one an A ( and I suspect a nonnie) and an O. |
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No.  I gave up waiting and went back to eating a little bit of spelt on occasion as the gluten-free grains (especially rice) seem to increase my tendency toward hypoglycemia. (seven loops and three arches here)
does that mean that our gut will never heal?  i have 8 loops, 1 arch and 1 whorl. |
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does that mean that our gut will never heal?  i have 8 loops, 1 arch and 1 whorl.
I dunno... I was just being goofy...  I have noticed that my ridge pattern does get more pronounced, meaning less white lines, in the summer months from the warmth as my fingers retain a little bit of fluid when it is hot. My skin really reacts to the cold, the colder it gets, the drier my skin. |
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Everyone looking at their fingerprints at bus stops - that'll get people talking  Talk about a bit of everything. Looking forward to what SWAMI express makes of me one day. Two double loops on thumbs (counted as whorls). Two tented arches. Two strange prints on Left index and middle finger are combinations, could be called loops or arches. Four ulna loops. So I guess I have more loops - so I've voted for that. Loopy! |
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Loops all pointing to my pinkies...
They do not help typing myself in swami by any means. |
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I have 8 (!) whorls. Cancer keeps an eye on me  I just read "Foods to fight Cancer" by canadian researchers Dr D. Gingras and Dr R. Bliveau and I notice that almost all my swami beneficial and diamonds are listed as anti-cancer foods by them. So the bad news is somehow balanced by the knowledge that I can DO something in order to prevent cancer. Does someone else have also many whorls ? |
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So the bad news is somehow balanced by the knowledge that I can DO something in order to prevent cancer.
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No.  I gave up waiting and went back to eating a little bit of spelt on occasion as the gluten-free grains (especially rice) seem to increase my tendency toward hypoglycemia. (seven loops and three arches here)
Whit e lines are not just from wheat but also lectin damage. Deflect probably a good idea. |
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Vicki, So far it looks like we are the only two with mostly arches.
I have 7 arches, 2 ulnar loops on both my pinkies, and 1 whorl on my right thumb.
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I have two whorls ( ring fingers) one backwards (radial) loop on my right index finger, and the rest are all ulner loops. The finger with the radial loop is not very padded like the others - its kinda weird. |
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Sharon, when I first had my fingerprints identified, no one noticed the loops on the outer edge of both pinky fingers. Having 7 arches seems so much more reasonable than having 9 arches!
I'd love to learn how to count the ridges needed to see a correlation with diabetes. My father's side has a strong history of diabetes, so it is definitely a family history risk factor.
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the risk is non existent since you ve changed your diet and lifestyle for so long now
my father was a diabetic, I ve kept those genes so very quiet, for so long now..... no way will I become one, of that I am sure. |
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I thought it impossible to have more whorls than me : 8.
Sorry... Must say, I was quite amazed myself. But I pretested, and then tested and even used the back side of the paper one more time. Is this a bad thing? |
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Is this a bad thing?
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A predisposition to cancer, as I remember from GTD book. 
Have had skin cancer 3 times and thyroid cancer, so the book is correct in that area. |
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Waouh. It seems so, indeed. So it confirms the bad news for me. I very much advise you to read "Foods to fight Cancer" by canadian researchers Dr D. Gingras and Dr R. Bliveau then, if you haven't read it yet. It provides a lot of informations very clearly explained. As I said above, I noticed that my beneficial and diamonds in my swami lists of vegetable and fruit are all anti-cancer foods. Since reading this book, I got yet another motivation for eating them. |
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You know, after I had my surgery and my thyroid removed I read the BTD book from the doctor and for the first time there was an explanation of all the things that were wrong with me. Everything made sense to me and it is the reason I started the BTD. BTD is also divided in T1 and T2 foods and special anti cancer foods and I stick to that as much as possible.
I'll see if I can get the book you mentioned.
What the GTD does for me I won't find out until later, since I have to get the Swami, but I can't until next month. |
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Sorry made a mistake. Instead of selecting mostly loops (I have all loops), I selected mostly whorls. I do not know how to correct it |
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SandrAruba, by "T1 and T2 foods" I assume your refer to the two levels of the diet described in "Live Right for your Type", right ? Personnally, I've not closely studied this part of BTD because I had hardly begun BTD when I heard about GTD. I found it fascinating and opted for it. One month later, I heard about swami and purchased it a short time later. So I've sort of skipped the stage of getting to know the A diet in depth. It might be good for me to go back to the book and see what is said about cancer in particularl.
To Lola : Absolutely. It's like I really needed a confirmation, coming from another scientific source. It freed me from a doubt that was creeping into me. |
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SandrAruba, by "T1 and T2 foods" I assume your refer to the two levels of the diet described in "Live Right for your Type", right ? Personnally, I've not closely studied this part of BTD because I had hardly begun BTD when I heard about GTD. I found it fascinating and opted for it. One month later, I heard about swami and purchased it a short time later. So I've sort of skipped the stage of getting to know the A diet in depth. It might be good for me to go back to the book and see what is said about cancer in particularl.
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Kumar, You can email the support on the swami site, I think there is a place to click on support. Then tell them what happened. I think they will respond and can change your info for you.  Paula |
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Hard to tell on some b/c of the white lines and sanded down print, but from what I can make out, it's very similar to Meghan. 4 whorls: (2 on my ring fingers) and the other two are tough (a thumb and pinky) but could be loops I guess? One radial loop on my index finger and the rest ulnar loops. |
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I have 4 regular arches: thumbs and index fingers. And 6 ulnar loops: middle, ring and pinkie fingers. |
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Agathe and SandrAruba - just like you having confirmation with whorls and cancer correlation (now you know you'll eat the right foods and live right and your risk will be much less thank goodness).
Same with me and my arches - totally fits with slow bowels and IBS problems that I have. I'm really glad to have found the GTD and I feel like I know alot more about myself and others now.
Heidi - I never realised how similar our fingerprints are, I have arches (tented though, two loopy ones too) on the same fingers, and ulna loops on the same fingers. except I have whorls on my thumbs. We've both had preeclampsia too. Amazing! |
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Symbi, I have 7 arches (two of them are tented) and I also had slow bowels until I learned about Dr. D's work and the BTD/GTD. The patterns with disease susceptibility and fingerprints are truly amazing. |
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Wow! 7 arches and some tented, you're unique Sharon.
Glad to hear the slow bowels have gotten better! You must be doing well on your SWAMI diet! I found the fingerprint part of GTD the most informative, interesting and fun. There are character traits associated too a bit like astrology. |
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I have 7 loops, 3 arches.
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3 whorls and 7 ulnar loops. All of the whorls are oval shaped. Whorls are on both index fingers and the ring finger on the left hand. A good many white lines. |
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Thanks Lola! Never heard of "accidental" arches or loops before...had some trouble reading my fingerprints at first.
My mom passed out once while pregnant with me, and her diet was terrible, so I would expect to see that reflected in my fingerprints to some extent, right? |
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i have 7 arches and three worls on my right hand only. the midle, indext and thumb. those three fingers have a tendancy to fall asleep if i right or type to long. |
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i have 7 arches and three worls on my right hand only. the midle, indext and thumb. those three fingers have a tendancy to fall asleep if i right or type to long.
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I can only clearly figure out 2 finger prints on hand, and possibly a third on one. I have lots of white lines, and have been on a gluten free diet for past 6 years. At age 55 perhaps the white lines are here to stay. How do I answer finger prints on SWAMI?  |
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you simply check pull down menus giving you the different options, which are only the ones in your book actually arches, loops and whorls......composites |
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As my finger prints on 5 fingers are not readable are you suggesting I use composite? |
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I can only clearly figure out 2 finger prints on hand, and possibly a third on one. I have lots of white lines, and have been on a gluten free diet for past 6 years. At age 55 perhaps the white lines are here to stay. How do I answer finger prints on SWAMI? 
Maybe you should call NAP (?) and ask. Is there a phone number in the Swami package? |
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I would like to know what NAP says if you call. I just ordered SWAMI last night. I have been wondering about the fingerprint question and how I can answer it. I cannot see my fingerprints because of white lines. |
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some have tried their local police station..... |
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Hi Sharon, I still try to see my fingerprints mostly with a small reading magnifying glass. I can't get decent prints by the regular method. It's been that way for some time now. We'll see as I continue on the plan. Wish I knew about all of this earlier in life..... 
I took my fingerprints the recommended way, scanned the results and magnified them on my computer screen. Even doing that they are hard to read due to the number of white lines. The jury is still out but I definitely get I am gluten intolerant. |
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I just looked at my print patterns on my toes with a flashlight. I have 9 arches and 1 whorl. It's sort of similar to my fingerprint patterns. Does anyone else have toe print patterns similar to their fingerprints? |
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This is fascinating. I have been asking about toeprints for some time. I have 7 ulnar loops & 3 long whorls like Captain Janeway, but different fingers(middle & ring). My toes are: big toes-radial loops; middle 3-ulnar loops; & little toes-what appear to be arches. I suspect that maybe toes would have more arches as they are small.... ? I still want Dr. D (or someone) to do some study of the prevalence of prints on the toes & the comparison of each person's fingers & toes. I would think they would be similar, but could be way different. I'm sure they do indicate some pattern of disease & health. I am amazed at how many arches there are in this survey since they are supposed to be so rare! About my white lines - they were the same when I first started the GT for some time. Then they seemed fewer. Recently, they seem like they came back. |
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some have tried their local police station.....
Do they have a missing fingerprint division? lol |
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psychic  ward!! |
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I must admit that I found it really difficult (like others have reported) working out what my fingerprint patterns are. I kind of went with my best guesstimate for SWAMI. If I uploaded them into a picture file, would people be willing to take a look and tell me what they think? It might (although I doubt fully) influence my SWAMI results. Just curious...........  Andy  |
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Thanks Lola, have to run now but will take a look later today! Andy  |
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So using the links that Lola hooked me up with, this is how I reckon I come out: Left Thumb (D1): Ulnar Loop Left Index (D2): Ulnar Loop Left Middle (D3): Arch Left Ring (D4): Ulnar Loop Left Pinkie (D5): Ulnar Loop Right Thumb (D1): Ulnar Loop Right Index (D2): Ulnar Loop Right Middle (D3): Ulnar Loop Right Ring (D4): Ulnar Loop Right Pinkie (D5): Ulnar Loop Having put this info into Swami, I'm even more Hunter now than before apparently - 59%. Thanks for the help! Andy  |
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I did call for advice on "unreadable finger prints" and was told to use composite. Interesting comments on toe prints, never thought to look at those. |
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I have three I can't read, one I think is a radial loop, 1 arch, 6 ulnar loops. |
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Did I ever mention that looking in the bright sunlight makes prints easier to read? That's how I read my toeprints, too.
Lola, that info about Malcolm X is fascinating. I just finished reading his autobiography last year for the 2nd time. The first time was about 1970. That man must have lived 2 lifetimes in his half-sized life(almost 40 years). What he could offer society would have been something. But often in someone's death, we get interested in what might have been. Our bodies do give amzing clues to so much! "We are fearfully & wonderfully made!" |
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Did I ever mention that looking in the bright sunlight makes prints easier to read? That's how I read my toe prints, too.
That just makes me squint my eyes and leaves wrinkles! lol |
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Try more viamin A for the eyes. With a better diet, your skin will improve, too! |
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Thumb - ulnar loop Index - tented arch Middle - ulnar loop Ring - ulnar loop Pinkie - tented arch
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Thumb - double loop whorl Index - whorl Middle - ulnar loop Ring - ulnar loop Pinkie - ulnar loop
Wow I feel weird! lol I guess I should just say "unique" and embrace the weirdness! |
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Look for deltas if you can't read the prints. |
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I have 8 loops and 2 whorls. The whorls are on my right thumb and right ring finger. What does this mean? |
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Lola, I also have three same kind of fingerprint patterns, two different. After reading The GenoType Diet book, I supposed that 3/5 symmetry is something between; if you had only 2 or less matching, there would be asymmetry and if at least 4, there would be symmetry. But you think / know that also 3/5 is hallmark of asymmetry? |
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Sharon the link is not working. Would you mind posting it again, thanks. |
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The link says that there is a family of five generations born without fingerprint patterns. Amazing! |
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Symmetry: Symmetry (or the lack of it, asymmetry) are the measurable differences between the sides of the body. Symmetry is a subtle indicator of fitness, since asymmetry reflects the quality of the fetal environment. The less stress a fetus experiences while developing, the more symmetrical the left and right sides of the body will be; conversely, the more stress experienced in fetal development, the greater the variations from left side to right side.
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Ok, the information I hadn't is still missing. Thanks Lola about your quote, someone can have benefits about it although it was familiar to me already.  |
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I have one radial loop on my left index, my right index almost looks like an arch, but it is an unlar loop the rest are clearly ulnar loops. Can some one explain to me the significans of the radial loop, I have understood it is unusual.....I know that having this many ulnar loops means I have a high risk of dementia or alzhimers diseas  I also checked my toes, all exept my left baby toe are ulnar....I am not sure what the baby toe is (an arch or either loop ?) |
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Lola if that link was for me...I am not quite sure what I was supposed to look at....either way I didn't find any info on what significans the radial loop stands for.  |
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yes that link was for you and in it, are all possible links kinking you to anything that has been said about radial loops, I believe even Cristina s link is there, in second place in the links listed.... and yes, reading is a must in these forums!!! lol  |
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Lola, Christina Ok thanks I got it  I don't mind reading....it's just overwhelming to have to wade through too much information all at once. I got a radial loop on my Left index not my right which is the dominant hand, so I can handle being employed, as long as it isn't 9 to 5  I don't know if I express my ego in a unique way....I don't know why I always need to have more information, I seem to always be missing some peice of the puzzel  Oh well  |
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Just found this link, a whole lot more information http://wemustknow.net/2010/04/meaning-of-fingerprints-common-and-radial-loop/"The Radial Loop on the left forefinger, in contrast, represents refusal to be led. This is the opposite of the Radial Loop on the right forefinger where the leader goes in his own, unique direction. The Radial Loop on the left forefinger signifies a person who will absolutely not be led by anyone; and, moreover, may go in the opposite direction. Jonah was the example of this type. The Radial Loop on the left forefinger may also be the sign of sharp perception, but it may be selective and with a selective memory." |
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use the find feature in every text..... no need reading all, just the parts about ULs..... something like scanning and getting what you want |
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Just found this link, a whole lot more information http://wemustknow.net/2010/04/meaning-of-fingerprints-common-and-radial-loop/"The Radial Loop on the left forefinger, in contrast, represents refusal to be led. This is the opposite of the Radial Loop on the right forefinger where the leader goes in his own, unique direction. The Radial Loop on the left forefinger signifies a person who will absolutely not be led by anyone; and, moreover, may go in the opposite direction. Jonah was the example of this type. The Radial Loop on the left forefinger may also be the sign of sharp perception, but it may be selective and with a selective memory."
Thanks for this link!! I think it describes me to a T. I have the pleasure of having two radial loops in each fore (index) finger!! the rest are all ulnar loops. Very loopy person here!!!  |
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Well wouldn't you know it may not have been wishful thinking at all  here is a link on a study on alzheimers and finger prints: http://www.alztest.com/alzheimers8.html"Dr. Elwood Cohen, MD, in his book "Alzheimer's Disease: Prevention, Intervention, and Treatment" also suggests that radial loops pointing to the thumb, if they are present at all, are usually found on the index and large fingers of non-Alzheimer's patients. In Alzheimer's patients, however, these may be found on the ring and little fingers. " |
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diabetes, Alzheimers/dementia, cancer and more have all been taken into consideration when programing swami abstract from a master study guide
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Alzheimers Significantly more ulnar loops. Radial loops in the 4th and 5th digits. Sydney creases.
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Arches, Mitral Valve Prolapse and CIP....
Fingering a culprit illness
A tool of the detective trade is now providing an important clue for doctors. According to Hopkins gastroenterologist Marvin Schuster, fingerprints can help spot a difficult-to-diagnose and sometimes life-threatening illness called chronic intestinal pseudoobstruction (CIP).
Schuster finds that 54 percent of CIP patients have an unusual fingerprint pattern called the digital arch configuration. In comparison, arch fingerprints appear in only 7 percent of the general population.
A new diagnostic tool for CIP is desperately needed, says Schuster. The illness, which afflicts 50,000 Americans, masquerades as an intestinal obstruction (thus the "pseudo" in CIP). Patients experience intense stomach pain, vomiting, nausea, and diarrhea alternating with constipation. But when surgeons go hunting for a blockage, they don't find one. That's because CIP stems from degeneration of the nerves or muscles that control the gastrointestinal system, and in some cases is of unknown cause.
CIP patients typically undergo numerous exploratory surgeries, which can leave scars that can lead to more surgery. Though there is no cure for CIP, the best treatment is to avoid unnecessary surgery, says Schuster. (Certain medications that enhance movement of the gut or counter spasms of gut muscles also help some patients.)
Schuster made the connection between the digital arch and CIP, "the way many things are found, through serendipity," he says. A patient was referred to Johns Hopkins with what appeared to be a heart murmur, abdominal pain, and severe constipation. Schuster examined the woman and determined that she had CIP. At the same time, cardiologist Sheldon Gottlieb diagnosed a mitral valve prolapse, a heart condition that may cause heart palpitations but is very rarely serious. Gottlieb also knew that there was an association between mitral valve prolapse and the digital arch pattern, so he examined the woman's fingerprints. Indeed, she had the unusual digital arches on nine of her fingers. The random chance of a person having nine digital arch prints is 1 in 20,000, says Schuster.
Schuster then started to take note of the fingerprint patterns of his other CIP patients. During the next seven years, he collected prints from 43 of them. Fifty-four percent had digital arches on one or more fingers. Furthermore, 40 percent had mitral valve prolapse. Digital arch prints and mitral valve prolapse appear to be markers for CIP, Schuster concludes.
Why should an unusual fingerprint pattern be associated with a gastrointestinal illness? "We think there's a congenital linkage," says Schuster, which means the group of conditions is present at birth. The constellation of symptoms may be genetically linked, or stem from environmental factors that occur in utero. Primitive fingerprints appear during the sixth or seventh week of development and are completed by the 24th week, and arise from a tissue similar to the one that forms the mitral valve and gut, says Gottlieb. But no one can be certain why the conditions often appear together. For now, Schuster is taking their association on faith. He examines the fingerprints of every patient whose symptoms suggest CIP. Digital arch fingerprints, along with mitral valve prolapse, says Schuster, can help pinpoint CIP earlier, and spare the patient unnecessary surgery. --MH
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Radial loops are not that common, but do occur on the index finger of some people.
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Caucasians have more radial loops than the other groups.
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Blood group O appears to have a higher incidence of loops when compared to blood group A.
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radial loops tend to be more common on the right hand and ulnar loops on the left.
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Bile duct atresia (closure) Arches and radial loops were seen more frequently than the normal distribution on thumb, ring and little fingers
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Breast cancer patients had a significant excess of radial loops on the left hand.
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Depression, bipolar Radial loops greatly elevated
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Developmental/behavioral problems Intellectual disability (IQ <70) showed more arches, the simplest fingerprint pattern, and more radial loops, an unusual pattern. Significant decrease in a-b ridge count.
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Polycystic ovary syndrome Significantly low total ridge count. Significantly low inter digital ridge count. Frequent radial loops.
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I checked out my toeprints too. All loops, except one whorl on right foot ring toe and one arch on left foot on pinky toe.
I have no arches on my hands, all loops on left and two whorls on right.
I also am mostly ambidextrous and do many things with either hand easily.
My right i use in sports a lot better than my left, but my left is more dextrous and has more fine motor skills.
I write left handed, but could probably learn with my right in a few weeks. Its just a bit rough and a little slower.
I must have have a time in the womb! She is O+ and i'm pretty sure a hunter, so it prob was a somewhat harsh environment for me as an A+.
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4 - ulnar loops Thumbs and Index 2 - radial loop (ring/pinkie) they are hard to read and look like the may have a tiny 2 - either ulnar or tiny whorl on other ring/pinkie 1 - Arch
My fingerprints on the pinkie and ring fingers are very hard to read, veriticals and low ridges. Other fingers have improved, perhaps these will. I need to be consistent with the deflect. |
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This is quite disconcerting for me. I just ordered swami & tried doing my fingerprints @ work w/ an ink pad & can't really figure out what it looks like. Are the examples in the book? |
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Thanks my dear, I emailed link to my home. I am excited to get started am @ work now |
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My Swami said my fingerprint patterns were one of the reasons it chose explorer. All ulnar loops with the exception of left index finger, an arch. Anyone else have 9 of the same pattern? |
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Yes, Cajun. I have 9 ulnars and a radial on my right index finger. Mismatched thumb prints or mismatched index prints are a key indication of Explorer. It almost might be a datum that over-rides the Genotype calculation. |
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I have on each hand...
D1 Whorl D2 Whorl D3 Ulnar Loop D4 Whorl D5 Ulnar Loop
That is six whorls and four ulnar loops. Some of my fingers were extremely hard to read because of white lines. But that's as best as I could see them, so that's what I put in my SWAMI. According to SWAMI's 2nd pass: "Ridge patterns asymmetrical to blood group /Characteristic of Explorer." Whatever that means. I'm going to take my fingerprints again soon and see if they have improved at all, just to make sure I've got them right. |
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On my right ring finger I've got an ulnar loop with a whorl in the middle. I guess I should submit that into SWAMI as a 'composite' print right?
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Damon, what you describe "ulnar loop with whorl in middle" is what I think I have on both ring fingers. There is a message link somewhere to say this is in fact a peacock whorl - think Lola noted it - and it should be recorded as a whorl. |
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On each hand I have: D1 Ulnar loop D2 Double loop whorl D3 Ulnar loop D4 Central pocket whorl D5 Ulnar loop Don't know what that means in terms of health risks, but it's nice and symmetrical at least  |
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Five ulnar loops, 1 arch, Either two radial loops on ring fingers or possibly peacock whorl --hoping in time this will be more clear. Pinkie fingers could be ulnar and radial loop but rather messed up with lines...hoping deflect and time will make the ring/pinkie finger prints clearer. |
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I just read on another thread something about ulnar loops being common in Nomads and that they are an indicator of alzhiemers. Can anyone confirm this? I was happy to know that as an A I don't have any whorls which denote cancer but now I am concerned about my nine ulnar loops and alzhiemers.  |
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This is the article generally cited for the assertion that ulnar loops are correlated with Alzheimers: http://archneur.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/42/1/50
The above article does not show this, but some later work suggests that ulnar loops are associated with early onset Alzheimers but not with late onset Alzheimers. |
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Very interesting but disturbing. |
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I think I'm a Hunter Minimal White Lines
Left Right T Ulnar Loop T Ulnar Looping Whorl (peacock whorl without eye) I Radial Loop I Radial Loop M minimal Ulnar Loop (tent arch like) M minimal Ulnar Loop (tent arch like) R Ulnar Loop R Ulnar Loop L Ulnar Loop L Ulnar Loop
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Left: D1 - ulnar D2 - composite (tented arch & radial loop...it's ugly) D3 - tented arch D4 - ulnar D5 - ulnar Right: D1 - ulnar D2 - radial D3 - tented arch D4 - ulnar D5 - ulnar and all shot thru with white lines  no surprises there! |
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Left: D1 - whorl D2 - whorl D3 - ulnar loop D4 - whorl D5 - ulnar loop
Right: D1 - whorl D2 - whorl D3 - radial loop D4 - whorl D5 - whorl
I have white lines as well. I did this a while back. Will try it again. Was not aware it could change with improvement in health. Interesting.
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hi all , i have 7 whorls and o +ve. i too got a bit concerned after reading this article abt 6 or more whorls linked to breast cancer ..so just googled and tried to get more info on this. guys i just saw 2 articles on the net one by seltzer and team published in 1990 and another by P.E. Natekar and team published in 2007. From my analysis of both the papers it appears as if Natekar's study was more comprehensive and was done on more number of patients. As per Natekar's paper it seems Analysis shows that presence of >6 whorls is significantly associated negatively with carcinoma of breast (χ2 =16.61, d f=1, p<0.01). It appears that >6 whorls have a protective effect for carcinoma of breast. (OR=0.1319, 95% C.I. = 0.035-0.49). please check this article in the link below..hmm hope this will help people with more than 6 whorls relax  by http://www.krepublishers.com/0.....Natekar-P-E-Text.pdf |
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hi all , i have 7 whorls and o +ve. i too got a bit concerned after reading this article abt 6 or more whorls linked to breast cancer ..so just googled and tried to get more info on this. guys i just saw 2 articles on the net one by seltzer and team published in 1990 and another by P.E. Natekar and team published in 2007. From my analysis of both the papers it appears as if Natekar's study was more comprehensive and was done on more number of patients. As per Natekar's paper it seems Analysis shows that presence of >6 whorls is significantly associated negatively with carcinoma of breast (χ2 =16.61, d f=1, p<0.01). It appears that >6 whorls have a protective effect for carcinoma of breast. (OR=0.1319, 95% C.I. = 0.035-0.49). please check this article in the link below..hmm hope this will help people with more than 6 whorls relax  by http://www.krepublishers.com/0.....Natekar-P-E-Text.pdf
Published peer-reviewed studies such as that one are what Dr. D uses to determine whether and how to use specific available datum such as fingerprints in his practice and in SWAMI. It is the sum of the availble studies, how they were designed and what they demonstrably show. Searching the NIH database might yield a number of other studies that would also prove interesting. |
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As a loopy person myself with 8 ulnar and 2 radial I am very happy to have Dr D looking after us. This is his comment on another thread about Alzheimer 's disease:
Oils don't really influence the progression of Alzheimers Disease. Phophatidyl compounds do, to some extent. NAP/DPN will be releasing a trehalose compound that does seem to block the progression of AD: http://pubs.rsc.org/en/Content/ArticleLanding/2008/MB/b804606a
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