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 Do you like sweet flavours much?
Hunter, yes (40 votes)
22.22%
Explorer, yes (38 votes)
21.11%
Gatherer, yes (37 votes)
20.56%
Teacher, yes (28 votes)
15.56%
Warrior, yes (21 votes)
11.67%
Nomad, yes (16 votes)
8.89%
180 Votes Total Last vote Tuesday, July 15, 2014, 3:11am by Faisa
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Probably has been done before, although I haven't seen it on the boards.

I am curious if genotype influences the liking of sweet food. I could mabey do one for savoury as well.

I also wonder how much these preferences are related to our gut flora? Well, don't think that's an easy answer. But, who knows mabey soon...

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I always had a sweet tooth, and always craved salt.  The sweet tooth is almost gone, just once in a while, it hits me, (but maybe that is because, I had the last of my teeth pulled out, a while, ago)hahaha

Seriously, the protein intake helps to get rid of the sweet tooth, and I don't worry about the salt too much, as I switched to sea salt, and don't need it as often as I did regular salt.

I always connect these two together, for some reason, not sure why.
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Wonder if taster status has more influence?


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Quoted from Andrea AWsec
Wonder if taster status has more influence?


Doesn't that influence bitter taste?
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You need no votes on the survey.  Neither Explorer I nor my Nomad son is a big sweet eater.


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I don't have a sweet tooth. Maybe because sweets have always left me feeling icky  

My Teacher husband has a whole mouth full of sweet teeth though, lol.  



Rh-, ISFP, Super Taster, Non-Secretor 52% SWAMI-XP'd Explorer.

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My hunter Nonnie Son and I have the nastiest sweet tooth known to man.  We would prefer a dinner of dark chocolate with a side of prime rib and a coffee chaser, no vegetables thank you.

My other Hunter Son (sec) is more of a dairy fan.  He would drink chocolate milk even though it would induce vomiting within about 30 minutes (I still can't believe that took me so many years to figure out).

My A warrior sec husband used to be a dairy boy, but I think he really loves the taste of red wine (still can't figure that one out)
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Quoted from Sed


Doesn't that influence bitter taste?

Not necessarily, I have two super taster friends that love, sweet. Sweet to the point that it would make someone else sick, they are both overweight. Both have messed up bowel flora, not sure how high the breathe hydrogen was for them.

Gut bacteria plays a role here too, I posted a study that stated that gut bacteria crave sweet, probably triggers hormonal responses that get us craving sweet. Leptin might be involved?

I think it is more complicated then GT.


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I also used to have a sweet tooth, which has virtually disappeared with the GTD. When I had a minor 'attack' last week, I was able to satisfy it with some pureed prunes mixed into a sweetener free basmati rice pud. My Type A, Teacher (yet to be verified) husband on the other hand, who follows a non BTD/GTD, but reasonably healthy diet (quite in line with his GT incidentally) has a very sweet tooth and is always longing for Nigella Lawson chocolate brownies..

I haven't included the 'No' response as there were only 10 poll question options.

"We would prefer a dinner of dark chocolate with a side of prime rib and a coffee chaser, no vegetables thank you." Once in a while, why not, breaks the 'monotony' of beef stew with sweet potatoes..?

Although the poll indicates an 'O' connection, esp Hunter sweet tooth, from the written responses it appears that things aren't that straightforward, possibly, yes, because other factors like individual gut flora, type of diet or upbringing play a part. However, if each genotype has a more specific gut bacteria composition and GTD brings the natural flora in line for genotype, with larger data and a GTD compliant population of at least 3 months some trends might be observed...  

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This hunter never had a sweet tooth, yet I like to have a bite of those unibars now and then


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Quoted from RedLilac
You need no votes on the survey.  Neither Explorer I nor my Nomad son is a big sweet eater.


I dont have a sweet tooth ( only dark choc )


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You've GOT to be kidding?!!  I'm the only Warrior that has a sweet tooth?   crikey.
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Sweet tooth.

Sed if you want to measure Genotypes that can be sweet tooths, just count the number of allowed "sugars"  

Gatherers have the least access to sweets - not a big surprise!  All the rest base Genotypes are about equal.


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I definitely have a sweet tooth, but I can get into a rhythm with the GTD where I can resist sweets a lot of the time. I tend to think some fruit-flavored foods are usually too sweet, like raspberry or lemon frozen yogurt tend to taste much sweeter than they should to me. I do like sweet veggies, but I find that I generally like to have a dinner that is pretty savory. I need salt, big time, but I don't know that I LOVE the taste. I guess I crave it from a physiological rather than taste-based stand point.

If I let myself eat chocolate, it can turn into an addiction in no time. It is not on my SWAMI.
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I'll always like sweets but I don't crave them anymore.  I take probiotics which helps with the sugar overload and keeps me from craving them.  
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The poll could perhaps be improved by creating the following options:

Had a sweet tooth before starting GTD

Had no sweet tooth before starting GTD

Hunter, 3 month compliancy, have sweet tooth/ have no sweet tooth

Hunter, 6 month compliancy, have sweet tooth/ have no sweet tooth

Hunter 1+ year compliancy, have sweet tooth/ have no sweet tooth

Same for all other genotypes

And there is the problem of how to define sweet tooth. Like sweet flavours or I eat them for enjoyment or I can't exist without having any? Also, sweet flavours of what, fruit, veg, sweeteners, sugars other carb?

But probably if one has a sweet tooth in the classic sense of the word, one knows it. No precise definition is needed.
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Quoted from jeanb

My A warrior sec husband used to be a dairy boy, but I think he really loves the taste of red wine (still can't figure that one out)


Red Wine is a SF for Warrior...  That may explain it!

I like some dark chocolate, but definitely do not have a sweet tooth.  I cut the sugar in most recipes in about half to where my Teacher family members think it needs more and I think it could still have less!


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There is also at what time of day? I find I don't need something sweet until mid afternoon to evening. So I'm wondering if it is when some nutrition is dipping, chromium or something?  And yes agree with comments about state of gut makes a difference, and if we are talking sugar that is definitely addictive for me.


Gluten/Casein and Yeast sensitivity.
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I said I have a sweet tooth, but I don't like things super sweet, but I LOVE dark chocolate, maybe it's really just a chocolate tooth. There is a direct association between protein deficiency and sugar craving, I was once told by a bio-chemist sort of  a person. Sugars give the cell the fuel that protein does, but not for as long. It takes about three days of enough protein to shut off sugar cravings. SInce Hunters have such a high protein need it would make sense that more of them have sweets on the mind.....
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i like the occasonal sweet but if you give me a choise of sour over sweet i will probly go for the sour. i mostly like chocolat, i never cared for hard candy and it always made me mad that all the pastery places had to cover every thing in goo  (a.k.a. white suger frosting)   if they just left it as pastery with fruit or cream cheese i would probly have been a fatter person.


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Oh yes, much to my dismay- I love sweets.


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I'm a Gatherer and I've never really had a sweet tooth. I get cravings for starchy foods, but not sweet ones.


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I voted "yes", but here's the real story. Prior to going on the Teacher's diet...prior to doing a SWAMI I was a lifetime sugarholic. I kept myself from indulging in sugar all day but it took effort.  I wanted desserts more than food. As a child I craved sweets...Sweets never affected my weight, but it certainly affected my mood.

OK, fast forward to my Teacher's SWAMI since September.  I now eat no refined sugar whatsoever anymore
and that's basically because I do my own baking and it's gluten free. So, I never have the opportunity
to eat other people's baked goods and that's where most of the sugar would be.  Chocolate is a black
dot on my SWAMI.  I use small amounts of honey and a little molasses but I'm not craving those
types of sugars..  The thought of eating sweet food isn't predominantly on my mind anymore.  Baked apples are sweet.  Prunes and dates are sweet...That's about as sweet as my foods are.

And I find if I mix a bunch of different flavors into a meal....sweet, salty, bitter, pungent, sour, I'm satisfied.

My SWAMI diet cured my sugar cravings.


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unfortunately starchy foods turn to sugar..,specially in a gatherer body.


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Oh, yeah, I know starchy foods turn to sugar within half an hour of consumption. I do my best to limit them, and only have them with plenty of protein and a bit of fat. But it's still a starch craving, not a sugar craving. Eating sugar messes up my blood sugar within a few minutes of eating it, while starches leave me hungry an hour later but don't give me any obvious sugar rushes. Eating too much sugar makes me feel physically ill, while starch just makes me feel good, especially if I keep eating more every hour. Of course I gain tons of weight that way, and I don't eat that way anymore.


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