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Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 9:57am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Rh- Expluntherer... It means I'm an O...;-)
Ee Dan
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Hi... I finally got around to getting the secretor saliva test done (having put it off for 6 months )  & dutifully posted it off last time I was over in Aus (2+ weeks ago) Now we (Path Lab & I) think Australia Post managed to lose it   as I never got results back
Path Lab has apologized and are kindly are sending me a new kit for the 'secretor status' test!! Ah well I guess I have to be paitent a wee while longer... Most annoying thing is I found it quite hard & time consuming to get the saliva into the vial in the first place without any bubbles it!! Now I gotta start again AND my credit card details are out there somewhere too!!
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Cristina
Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 10:33am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Quoted from Symbi
I take the saliva in teh post comment back...

Tom Martens I think had two saliva tests with different results, but can't find his post.


Not so fast, do not take it back yet.  I found this post in the nonnie club house dated back august 13, 2008, by a Tom O.  He had the two tests done with different results blaming them to time deterioration, maybe?  Check out reply no 11 or post no 11.

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1217875410/s-new/#num7,  :)




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Symbi
Thursday, September 24, 2009, 12:57am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Good hunting Cristina - that's the one I'd read about concerns with saliva in the post, and couldn't find again, and it was another Tom,

Sorry Tom Martens, though he also got different results twice but hasn't said whether saliva or blood yet on this forum http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1253581194/s-5/#num5

I searched for saliva post mail sample accuracy and more
didn't think of validity!  

Cheers!

P.S. just found Tom O explaining his saliva test was done years ago see here http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-GTDdiet/m-1253645881/s-new/


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Sunday, September 27, 2009, 10:26pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Good hunting Cristina - that's the one I'd read about concerns with saliva in the post, ...,

... ...just found Tom O explaining his saliva test was done years ago see here  ... ...


GheeWhiz,  You think the moderators will be impressed with our searching efforts now?  




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Sunday, September 27, 2009, 11:37pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Quoted from Lola
secretor is secretor and non secretor is non secretor......no bigggie



Although ABH secretor status is often thought of as an all or none situation, this is generally not the case. In some ABH non-secretors (known as partial or weak secretors) there will often be some form of active A or B blood group substance in the saliva; however, the quantity and quality of these substances is greatly reduced, predisposing them to similar functional problems as other non-secretors. (3,4)  

http://www.dadamo.com/science_abh-lewis.htm





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Monday, September 28, 2009, 12:31am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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always read the context in my statements......


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You're kidding page 3 and we're still on the actual topic of the thread!  That's rare on here.  We get into all sorts of interesting sidestories and I wouldn't have it any other way.   Sorry sarcasm doesn't suit me I know!

Certainly keeps the brain working to keep track of what was being discussed under each thread, good mental gymnastics!


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Wednesday, October 14, 2009, 4:27am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Today I received a Blood Group Card from PathLab with the following info:

Blood Group A Rh(D): Positive

It confirms I am A +  and it gives the extra bit about Rh(D).  Anyone wishes to expand on this?

There are more results coming but, have to wait another week or so to be ready (like the Lewis test, saliva test, MN, MH, etc,etc).




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Wednesday, October 14, 2009, 4:41am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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means your Rhesus factor is positive....
Those individuals that lack the D antigen are considered to be Rh negative.
http://www.drpeterjdadamo.com/wiki/wiki.pl/Homeobox_%28Hox%29_Gene/Rhesus_%28Rh%29_Blood_Group

what about subtype of A?
http://www.dadamo.com/program_advanced_subtypes.htm


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I could not resist myself so I called Path Lab and they gave me the following info over the phone:

Lewis test results:
A -
B +

MN results:

M +
N +

They do not do subtype A1, or A2 or A3 as such.  Talked to techo and he did not know what I was talking about.

The rest of the test, which is the saliva test, will not be ready for another week.

So, according to this info, what I am, sec or non sec and any other info?

Thanks Lola and everyone.  




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Le(a-b+) always secretors
Le(a+b-) always a non-secretor

you are a secretor
MN
about MN system
http://www.drpeterjdadamo.com/wiki/wiki.pl/MNS_Blood_Group

tell the techo if he has ever heard of a serotyping panel....


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Wednesday, October 14, 2009, 5:10am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Lola, I asked him and he said nope.  I have done all the blood typing tests that they offered.

I invited him to tune into this forum do the Lewis blood type search and to let me know if he thinks they can do it.  He seemed keen enough to check this website out.  
I am just about to put the results so far into Swami and see how it changes my diet.  I will post diet changes under 'Cristina's Swami Xpress' website, but keep on posting secretor result status here (makes it easier to identify things when searching).  Is this the organized side of me coming through?  




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you can now add your secretor shield at last!


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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worth the wait!  Congratulations on being a secretor!  
Didn't realise they don't test A1, A2 etc, Jumari had that test through the Melbourne Dr though.

How did you collect the blood for the blood test?  Curious to know for future.


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Quoted from Symbi
worth the wait!  Congratulations on being a secretor!  
Didn't realise they don't test A1, A2 etc, Jumari had that test through the Melbourne Dr though.

How did you collect the blood for the blood test?  Curious to know for future.


They send you the kit with the containers (test tube things) for the blood and the form appropriate to your local lab, in my case it was Coolum QML labs.  The nurse at the QML clinic took my blood, filled the form up, gave me a copy and the filled tubes.  Then I posted the blood tube to Pathlab myself.  I think the local clinic sends the original paperwork to PathLab.

It looks that way (about the subtypes A1,A2, A3) with PathLab.  Hopefully Jumari may tune in and confirm his subtype test availability in Sydney? That is where his doctor is, I think.

Lola, changing my avatar now.  I am so excited !!  




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looks good!


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Quoted from Cristina


They send you the kit with the containers (test tube things) for the blood and the form appropriate to your local lab, in my case it was Coolum QML labs.  The nurse at the QML clinic took my blood, filled the form up, gave me a copy and the filled tubes.  Then I posted the blood tube to Pathlab myself.  I think the local clinic sends the original paperwork to PathLab.

It looks that way (about the subtypes A1,A2, A3) with PathLab.  Hopefully Jumari may tune in and confirm his subtype test availability in Sydney? That is where his doctor is, I think.

Lola, changing my avatar now.  I am so excited !!  


Thanks, yes Sydney, not Melbourne, sorry they are so far away from me.
Shame about the subtypes though.

Yeah, saw on your other thread that you're a warrior, that fits with your grasp on mental tasks until they are finished (like paw paw for instance!).

Thanks for letting me know the procedure, so I guess QML would get a part of the fee for the collection, that makes sense.  I was worried about having to pay extra fees to someone to collect the blood.  Thanks!  


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