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Amazone I.
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my sister also an AB but sechi react to cathairs with asthma too...I only react for rabbit-hairs ....but sorry I don't know what she might be. nor am I sure what I might be...something between explorer and nomade .....


wow, Laura T sorry I didn't realized your link to several other forms of testings.....hmmm can't see that...sorry... but if you read from Riso all he wrote about differences of the types... I feel merely that he is more correct to the *so called truth* than others...because of the problem of no:3...here in reality is no name---- and 1 can be confound with 3 yep...but the types in reality are completely different also how they act and what their purposes are.... I saw it in the very first book of Don R. Riso...the nine personalities  and next the wisdom of the enneagram...here it becomes very clear how people might confound their own persoanlities....

btw...won't mix all together...if not I'll get lost ....


Paul C.....I only can agree with you, the differnce here is, I don't have any dyslexic things...but merely the need to point out when words are written wrongly in french or teutonic language...   ....


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Explorers, do any of you react to cats? -snip-


Yes, i had terrible asthma, watery eyes, running nose, welts (from direct contact).

But now on the BTD, my symptoms are minimal, and we live with 3 cats.  But I still get welts from claw marks.


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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Yes, i had terrible asthma, watery eyes, running nose, welts (from direct contact).

But now on the BTD, my symptoms are minimal, and we live with 3 cats.  But I still get welts from claw marks.


That's amazing!  I want to do what you do!  Can you tell me what you eat in a typical day and which supplements you take?  My skin and mood have improved, but I still have a lot of nasal/ear/head/lung congestion.  



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Quoted from Amazone I.
.because of the problem of no:3...here in reality is no name---- and 1 can be confound with 3 yep...but the types in reality are completely different also how they act and what their purposes are.....


I heard one teacher say that the MBTI is the 'true self' and the enneagram is the set of coping behaviors a person develops to protect this 'true self'.  Most infj's develop a '4' coping behavior; most ESTJ's develop a '3' coping behavior.

Anyway, the interesting thing to me is on this site, I see a lot of infj, infp, and intj



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Well this explorer has 3 cats and does fine with them.  Were such a unique and diverse group.  Were all sensitive to something but not necessarily the same things.


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That's amazing!  I want to do what you do!  Can you tell me what you eat in a typical day and which supplements you take?  My skin and mood have improved, but I still have a lot of nasal/ear/head/lung congestion.  

Giving up wheat and dairy is important.  As well, I've been supplementing with Isocort for two years.  The extra cortisol from Isocort may have an effect similar to prednisone.

Exercise is important.  If you can breathe well and have the energy, do some exercise every day.

Sometimes the combination of the cats, seasonal allergies, and giving in to ice cream and cookies gets me in trouble.  Dr. D's allergy protocol helps a lot.  That includes Quercetin, Stinging Nettle and especially Collinsonia for healthy sinuses.  As well, I use a neti pot every morning and run both HEPA and ionizing air purifiers in the home.  I was diagnosed with sleep apnea, so I also use a CPAP machine at night.

I have a bit more detail on my blog, but I think the above is what keeps me ticking.

Disclaimers: The product links I provided are "Affiliate Links."  Should you click on them and buy the products, I would receive some payment.  Also, I am not a doctor.  I'm only saying what works for me.  Whether it will work for you is unknown, so please check with your M.D or N.D.


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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Quoted from LauraT


I heard one teacher say that the MBTI is the 'true self' and the enneagram is the set of coping behaviors a person develops to protect this 'true self'.  Most infj's develop a '4' coping behavior; most ESTJ's develop a '3' coping behavior.

Anyway, the interesting thing to me is on this site, I see a lot of infj, infp, and intj



Perhaps the extroverts don't feel as much need to have online support.  

Interesting about "coping behavior."  I would like to look into that a bit more.  Not to turn this into Ribbit Therapy, but I feel like I'm changing my coping behavior back to how I was when I was younger b/c my attempts at coping for the last 10 years hasn't worked as well as I'd hoped.     Is that allowed?


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Quoted from Ribbit


Perhaps the extroverts don't feel as much need to have online support.  

Interesting about "coping behavior."  I would like to look into that a bit more.  Not to turn this into Ribbit Therapy, but I feel like I'm changing my coping behavior back to how I was when I was younger b/c my attempts at coping for the last 10 years hasn't worked as well as I'd hoped.     Is that allowed?


Well, so in the enneagram theory, people "integrate" to other numbers when they become healthier and more balanced.  If you're a 4 (the individualist) you would integrate to the 1 (perfectionist).  If you're a 5 (the observer) you integrate to 8 (the challenger).  Also, the "fixations" become less pronounced as you become healthier.  People who are totally enlightened don't have a visible enneagram type.  I've noticed this with many spiritual teachers... they obviously have coping mechanisms, because they're human, but it isn't clear which ones they rely on, because it's so subtle.  



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Laura T...I can agree here ...ESTJ is the 2/3 thingy here...no wonder a lot of O's developed such a behaviour.....a gatherer thing
but well ther's always a way to see or give an approach to something....even to our *selfs* ...btw...here only our developemnt of our so called *persona* is described here...btw... I justamente love the work of C.G.Jung...which is in both aspects the underlinded workout    I think C.G.Jung was pointed being an isfj...... .........(9/1) a psychological form to get us determinded..... but hasn't anything to do with our true *selfs*  .....


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Quoted from LauraT


Well, so in the enneagram theory, people "integrate" to other numbers when they become healthier and more balanced.  If you're a 4 (the individualist) you would integrate to the 1 (perfectionist).  If you're a 5 (the observer) you integrate to 8 (the challenger).  Also, the "fixations" become less pronounced as you become healthier.  People who are totally enlightened don't have a visible enneagram type.  I've noticed this with many spiritual teachers... they obviously have coping mechanisms, because they're human, but it isn't clear which ones they rely on, because it's so subtle.  

Interesting.  One of my first posts on this message board was asking about whether people noticed a personality change from diet.  I don't think I got much of a response, though.



My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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Quoted from LauraT


Anyway, the interesting thing to me is on this site, I see a lot of infj, infp, and intj



I have found that I come out at intp on this site's test but my daughter pointed out that I work with people and enjoy it so have to be an entp or enfp     

Has anyone else had this problem?
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I guess what I am trying to say is that I am right on the border.  I do need to have my alone time but not excessively.  One daughter is definitely an extrovert and one an introvert and I would probably be in between.  

Maybe square peg is right and BTD/GTD has levelled me right out!  
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An introvert is someone who doesn't need the object or person around to be connected to it...their connection to others is from a connection to something within themselves. An extrovert needs the object or person around to feel connected to it. When an introvert is dragged to a party that they don't want to go to ..once they get there and get into the party they have to be dragged away from it(as a undeveloped extrovert..they have no boundaries)whereas the extrovert..once they get into an activity that doesn't involve others...they can get totally immersed in something to the exclusion of all other things and people...for a while. But thats how both learn to relate to the undeveloped side. Anyway, thats how i remember stuff from my jungian days.

When i was younger..it was all about being with people. But once i got into an artistic activity....i would spend 10 hours painting with no break.  I had no idea how to pace myself either way. I had taken the briggs/meyer test and it came out that i was equally introverted and extroverted(meaning i was enlighted in both areas or completely unconscious of both operating in me...of course..by my imersion in both...i was the latter.) Nowadays..i can do both without going too far. And i look forward to interacting with others. And i look forward to going into myself...in the same day.


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Quoted from shells


I have found that I come out at intp on this site's test but my daughter pointed out that I work with people and enjoy it so have to be an entp or enfp     

Has anyone else had this problem?
It could be that you get into an introverted state as you take the test.


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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Great thread.

I tried the Enneagram test but some of the questions really bothered me. In at least one case I didn't feel either question described me, in another both did. I tend to be very precise though with definitions (English prof father). So I don't know if I really answered the questions right. I think I need a longer more comprehensive test to get a good result.

Also I didn't really know how to interpret it, because I haven't had time to really study it. All that said, 3 was my strongest #, scoring 7 points; 2 was next with 6 points; 1 and 5 had 5 points each. I related to some aspects of all of the types. One thing that didn't seem to show up for the ones I scored highest on was my drive to creativity (music, art and writing) and my strong intuition and interest in healing (I tech and practice shamanic healing which is all about connecting with Spirit). Though I am a busy person and mostly always doing things my connection to Spirit is really important to me. I have to have time to be in Nature, to go within, and to use my connection with Spirit to help others. I also consider my creativity to be a way of linking the spiritual with the physical-- most of what I create comes from that spiritual connection.

Sensitivities: I can relate to a lot of what people said-- textures etc-- though it has never been so bad that I was allergic. I don't care much for the really scatchy wools but some of them are soft and those are ok. My brother hates wool next to his skin-- always thought he would be a Hunter but maybe not. He would say yes to a number of things folks have mentioned here.

I have always had lots of respiratory colds and things (until BTD)but never asthma and allergies. I currently have 5 cats and they sleep with me every night. But I also feed them a homemade diet, and I think that makes a huge difference.

Hate fluorescent lights!!! but they make me sleepy, not jumpy.

Smells: love essential oils and all kinds of flowers, but cannot abide synthetic smells of any kind. Have a very acute sense of smell.
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Most of the complaints we're listing, though, are simply non-secretor traits.  If you read through the Nonnie Clubhouse threads, you'll read the same things.  So the Explorers might be this way overall, but the non-secretors in general are the same way--super-sensitive to internal and external irritants.


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Some cats are more allergenic than others.  Diet has something to do with it, as does breed.  My husband's sister has a ragdoll cat and he is not allergic to it, but he's terribly allergic to most cats.

I'm slightly allergic to cats, but much improved after allergy drops (allergyeasy, my osteopath does these homeopathic allergy drops).  I haven't really tested my horse allergy after doing the drops, I'm scared to maybe get covered in welts!


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Hmmmm, maybe the non allergenic cats are in effect non-secretors.  As their saliva is highly allergic and especially cats lick themselves often.  What else could explain it?  
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Quoted from cozzete
An introvert is someone who doesn't need the object or person around to be connected to it...their connection to others is from a connection to something within themselves...

When i was younger..it was all about being with people. But once i got into an artistic activity....i would spend 10 hours painting with no break.  I had no idea how to pace myself either way. I had taken the briggs/meyer test and it came out that i was equally introverted and extroverted(meaning i was enlighted in both areas or completely unconscious of both operating in me...of course..by my imersion in both...i was the latter.) Nowadays..i can do both without going too far. And i look forward to interacting with others. And i look forward to going into myself...in the same day.


Wow, this is so interesting.  It does explain a lot especially the more inner work we do  
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Maybe someone should start a thread about Explorers and spirituality! since that seems to be some kind of theme here.

I can really relate to the thing about spending 10 hours on a project-- I'm that way about creative projects but also about working in my garden, or building stuff.
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Hey there,
I've got to say that the Explorer profile was dead on for me.  I was really happy to see that so many people on here hate fluorescent lights.  I can hear them, and sometimes I feel like they are not flickering fast enough to give the appearance of a steady light (see flicker fusion).  I get the same thing with monitors sometimes...way too focused on minor annoyances.  It has made me a pretty successful scientist, though.

I am a bit pissed that I've been feeling bad for not being able to tolerate tofu and coffee for the last 10 years on the BTD, but I guess that's the risk you run as a guinea pig.  Adamo's like some kind of mad scientist, making concrete recommendations on incomplete data, but maybe that's how progress is made.  It worked for the Nazi scientists.

Anyhow, great to see you all on here.  Let me know if you are able to find quail eggs, emu meat, and eye of newt (or whatever obscure foods we are supposed to be eating).  Peace!
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It seems people shy away from the Explorer (and Warrior) diet. But, I feel so much better that If eye of newt was on the list I'd probably eat it!  


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I just found out about 5 days ago that I am an Explorer after 1 1/2 years following the Hunter diet.   I am ISFJ, but I call myself a situational extrovert.  If I am in the mood then I love being around people, but I NEED to have alone time.  I hate the thought of going to a party, I will dread it for a week and then when I get there, I have a great time (usually), but I am usually the first one to leave also.

Allergic to wool and pine trees, and other things.  Wheat changes my personality and handwritting.  Perfume/Cologne makes me angry and mean, really mean. I can feel the cells in my body celebrating the music I hear.  I avoid malls because of everyone's energy.  I hate going to wakes and funerals because I can feel the sadness.  I am not an animal person, but they love me, they want to be near me.  I feel energy from trees.  One of the things that drove me nuts when I was working at my last job was that I didn't have a window and couldn't see outside.

This was a long thread and I am trying  to remember everything I wanted to respond to.  Reading everyone's remarks has brought me great comfort.  It is wonderful to know that others understand.

Tea Rose



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wag,
You can help the other members of the forum help you by choosing a blood type shield to display beneath your name.

how to
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-ref/m-1219018887/

Welcome!
displaying messages under the avatar like Gt and other:
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-ref/m-1219018887/#num1

I reckon you are an A, but never thought of doing a whole serotype panel?
that test helps determine weather an A1 or 2.....secretor or not, and RH status.....
but maybe you already know all that.....


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eye of newt



how about....
....... toe of frog,
Wool of bat, and tongue of dog,
Adder fork, and blind-worm sting,
Lizard leg, and howlet wing,
lol


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