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Rosamunde
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I thought it might be good to start a thread specifically for Explorers. Although have  come across comments elsewhere there doesn't seem to be that much specific for us.  Or are Explorers by nature solitary and non 'joiners'.  What characteristics do you feel make you an explorer?

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Has anyone tried to correlate GT and Myers-Briggs or RIASEC (Holland Codes)?

I would expect Enterprising, Investigative, Artistic to be stronger for Explorers.

For MBTI a de-emphasis on Judging and Feeling?

A muliple choice poll would give us an inital take to construct a hypothesis.  


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Quoted from paul clucas
Has anyone tried to correlate GT and Myers-Briggs or RIASEC (Holland Codes)?

I would expect Enterprising, Investigative, Artistic to be stronger for Explorers.

For MBTI a de-emphasis on Judging and Feeling?

A muliple choice poll would give us an inital take to construct a hypothesis.  


I'm INFJ, which is the 'mystical writer'.  I want to do a poll on enneagram types!  That's my favorite theory of personalities.  I'm a 1 with a 9 wing, which is called the 'idealist'.  Driven and energetic but spacey.  Attuned to the big picture, a natural synthesizer of multiple perspectives.  That matches the Explorer type, right?  I also did some searches for the 'skull types' Dr. D mentions when he describes how Explorers look, and they totally resemble me (& ancestors):  narrow face, squarish jaw, and often with 1 eye squintier than the other.  


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I'm INFP (Meyers-Brigg)
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I image we would have a lot of personality diversity because we include so many different kinds of blood types. But maybe not!  


"Anxiety is the gap between now and then"

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INFJ Here too, just like Laura: Driven and energetic, but spacey...that's so me.


Type O+ blogger, secretor afterall. Gluten intolerant. With two gluten intolerant sons:  A+ Secretor 10 yo (also fructose intolerant and slightly egg allergic), and  O- 7yo.
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Rosamunde
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I can see that there would be a lot of diversity, may be as long as a piece of string but I wondered where people found a comfortable match with the explorer type and where there was difficulty in marrying up the profile.  
At the moment I am trying explorer on for size.  I'm A- and very reactive to caffiene or stimulants such as green tea, chocolate, red wine etc, especially when I have been steered clear for a while.  Definately liver needs care, have been into cleanses for a while.  Really like the addition of the caster oil pack. Sensitive to fragrances.  Am known for rubbing nose because irritated by sitting next to or near someone who is wearing a fragrance that I react to. Fragrance need not be overt, very strong.
body system is also asymetric. at college tested several seconds slower reaction between left and right sides and more recently tendency towards scoliosis that accentuates this difference. but not sure about the memory retention and body type doesn't match more apple and not sure about growing older gracefully or being accident prone. Never been anaemic was once asked if I ate iron bars, thick blood. Also hypoglaecimic.

The other option was warrior where touch points with flushing; all my life and can be like a terrier when it comes to sorting things out. Plus body shape.

However find the explorer diet seems to fit well.  Enjoying trying new things and look at the recipes on the blood type.  spelt bread is really good. Could live mainly on vegetables and lentils but every now and again have yen for red meat, usually lamb and love calves liver. Don't see emu, etc coming to the west coast of ireland that soon.  
Previously tried the eat right 4 your type but didn't stick with it, this time though find this genotype seems easier.  Only problem is marrying with hunter husband who is totally cynical about the whole thing but is doing very well on the regime. Probably better than I am, gradually easing out the lapses.  so easy to trip up.

Sorry to go on but am genuinely interested in hearing about other explorers and how they see their profile and diversities.

PS not familiar with INFJ but do identify with many of hte characteristics of an aquarian interested in just causes, innovative ideas, new ways of working (life long interest) etc
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I'm married to a Hunter as well!

I'm not accident prone. I've never been slim, but not really fat either. But in the last five years I put on about 15 - 20 lbs! (menopause? liver trouble? candida?) Anyway the weight came on mostly around my middle (stomach and hips). In the last 5 months since starting the diet I've lost 10 lbs! It's coming off really slowly as my body heals. Which I consider a really solid weight loss. I'm not worried about it coming back!

I don't think the Dr. means us to all fit the profile perfectly. Very few of us fit into the profile 100%. Did your measurements come out as Explorer? Or are you just looking at the personality traits? You need to make sure most of the measurements and personality traits add up to your type. But you should start with the measurements.



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Nowishow, congratulations on your health improvements!  My step-mom was always slim until menopause, and now she struggles with a growing waistline even though she eats well and exercises.  But, she eats a lot of processed, diet foods, and I think those things just accumulate once you reach a certain age (say, 25).  

My measurements all fit the explorer, although I'm a bit more of an ectomorph than mesomorph.  I have little legs and wrists, but I have a long torso and upper legs.  My ring fingers are longer than index, and my thumb fingerprints don't match.  

From what I can tell, the main thing explorers have in common is slow detoxicity.    


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Quoted from LauraT


From what I can tell, the main thing explorers have in common is slow detoxicity.    


That's for sure  


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I totally fit the chemically sensitive part too.  Bounce fabric softener is my nemesis, and it seems I can smell it from a block away.  Scented candles too.  I have a long list of scented pet peeves, but those are the top two and I'll stop there before the rant begins.

I am fairly accident prone, though usually when I'm in spacey mode (or having PMS or pregnant).  When I'm focused and in the zone, like at taekwondo, then I do pretty well.  I'm no thrill seeker, but rather risk tolerant in non-physical risks, and able to roll with the punches pretty well.

Does anybody else require complete control over their morning routine?  If I get startled or upset in the morning, then I'm totally out of sorts and agitated for the rest of the day, sometimes the next day as well.  No bad news until after I've had my breakfast please!  


Type O+ blogger, secretor afterall. Gluten intolerant. With two gluten intolerant sons:  A+ Secretor 10 yo (also fructose intolerant and slightly egg allergic), and  O- 7yo.
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iNfP, Cancer, Rabbit.  Not sure about my Enneagram, though.  Is there a good, free, online test I can try for that?

I measure as an Explorer and fit that profile, but I also identify with the Hunter.  My wife and daughter also measure as Explorers, but my daughter's not done growing.


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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Quoted from SquarePeg
iNfP, Cancer, Rabbit.  Not sure about my Enneagram, though.  Is there a good, free, online test I can try for that?


Scroll down below the instructions and you'll see the first question.  INFP's are usually 9's, 4's, or 6's.  Sometimes 1's or 5's.  But you could be any of the 9 numbers.


http://www.enneagraminstitute.com/dis_sample_36.asp


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Does anybody else require complete control over their morning routine?  If I get startled or upset in the morning, then I'm totally out of sorts and agitated for the rest of the day, sometimes the next day as well.  No bad news until after I've had my breakfast please!  

I have to get up early to have some proper breakfast as I can't eat anything substantial in the evening. Those days I have to rush out without eating properly I spend the rest of the day trying to catch up and yes I can lose my nerve easily. My lunch seems laughably light when you compare to the rest at my workshop but it's really ok. I have no reason to live like this like obesity it's just that this works best. Explorer manifestations? Yellow skin, autistic traits, I have to do things my way even though it doesn't always make any sense. For example cycling to work the very short distance in a complete cycling outfit riding a bike capable of expedition.


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I've had yellow skin twice as well.  I wonder if Gilbert's Syndrome is an explorer trait.  

I have a few autistic traits as well, as does my youngest son who is probably an explorer (but could turn out hunter).  It's especially pronounced when we eat toxins or get stomach bugs.  He's such a smart and funny boy, I'm so glad my diet was enlightened in time to benefit him...he's really got a spiritual side, intelligence, and a grasp for abstract thinking, even at age 3.  


Type O+ blogger, secretor afterall. Gluten intolerant. With two gluten intolerant sons:  A+ Secretor 10 yo (also fructose intolerant and slightly egg allergic), and  O- 7yo.
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I'm always more comfortable working for myself than for someone else. I love having my own business which I was able to do for about 8 years. Not now though, but I'm getting used to it.

I guess I don't mind my morning routine getting messed up. I tend to go with the flow. But, I know I was a lot more stressed and "anal"  through my 20's and 30's.

Autistic traits especially under the age of 30
Very spiritual but not religious (never been much of a joiner)

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Took me years to realise that if not careful I can get caught up in a routine that I have to complete or do before starting my day.  If it has developed it could be an hour or more, usually yoga. Result don't do anything until routine completed or end up doing nothing all day.  Have really worked with this and much more laid back but it is all too easy to fall back into such habits.  

Empathise with the spiritual not religious.

Often find that walking through the detergent section or past the freezers in supermarkets gets my nose going

Ps don't know about secretor status but did do all the measurements.  Finger lengths difficult millimetres in it but finger prints of index fingers didn't match, others it was very difficult to read (housework hands?) also left and right palms don't look the same either.
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I adore morning and evening routines.  My problem is that since I started grad school and have been a commuter, I don't have much time for routines.  It doesn't stop me from doing them, but it means my work and sleep have suffered!  I basically need 3 hours in the morning and 90 minutes in the evening to transition from sleep to wake and back to sleep again.  Add this with 7 hours sleep, 2 hours commuting, 30 minutes for lunch and 30 minutes for dinner, and I'm only left with 9.5 hours total for work, errands, socializing, and hobbies.  I average about 7 hours of work a day, if I keep email to a minimum.  

Anyway, here are my rituals:

Morning ritual:

brief meditation, prepare fruit smoothies, quick cardio at the gym, shower, breakfast (cook a week's worth of quinoa and pecans and heat up a bowl), listen to audios on meditation or motivation on the way to work (60 minute commute).  

Evening ritual

plan my next day, pack my lunch, pack my bags, set out my clothes, wash face and brush teeth, do a little bit of house clean-up, get into bed, update my budget, journal or read a little bit.

Luckily, I tend to find boyfriends who also thrive on rituals, but how will I ever manage once I have a child???


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ouch I think also here are some misunderstandings... I work with the enneagram officially in my praxis and sorry or you are an 9/1 or and 4/5 ...you can't be both...but both often are confounded....dito Briggs-Myers and vice-versa ....& Keirseys as well  

9/1 is an ifsj....1/9 is an ENTP...... I once wrote an entire article about that thema....but it has vanished ...

paul you are like me too, a 5/4.... .....


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I have something to say about the Explorer diet.

I have been pretty strict with Elizabeth's diet (she's 6 1/2) except in the area of fruit.  I mean, really.  What good mother deprives her small children of peaches and blackberries?  She used to have nearly chronic UTIs or yeast infections since she was a toddler, perhaps before.  She continued to have them on the BTD.  When I switched her to the Explorer diet the infections improved, but I realized recently that they come back (usually the UTI) if she has too much fruit that she's supposed to avoid.  Interesting, huh?  Maybe the "good mother" deprives her small children of peaches and blackberries in abundance on a regular basis.  


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Re: autism/Asperger's, perhaps these are more likely to be nonnie traits.  We know the nonnies are generally more physically sensitive.  I know I have always had Sensory Integration Disorder* and it plagues me to this day, although the diet has certainly helped.  Proto and Melissa, would y'all be interested in starting a thread just on this subject?  I need tips on how to handle multiple small children without hunching in a corner with my ears covered, feeling like I want to scream.  (I know, every mother feels like that some days, but this is not because of normal every-day stress, it's because of the sensory issues).

*It's often worse first thing in the morning.  Seems like my ears are particularly sensitive then.


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ouch I think also here are some misunderstandings... I work with the enneagram officially in my praxis and sorry or you are an 9/1 or and 4/5 ...you can't be both...but both often are confounded....dito Briggs-Myers and vice-versa ....& Keirseys as well  

9/1 is an ifsj....1/9 is an ENTP


Hi!  

I do enneagram typing and consulting, and there have been a bunch of studies on how and whether the enneagram and MB overlap... infj's are usually 4's but lots of 5's, 6's, and 1's have been tested as infj.

http://www.geocities.com/lifexplore/typecorr.htm




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Re: autism/Asperger's, perhaps these are more likely to be nonnie traits.  We know the nonnies are generally more physically sensitive.  I know I have always had Sensory Integration Disorder* and it plagues me to this day, although the diet has certainly helped.  Proto and Melissa, would y'all be interested in starting a thread just on this subject?  I need tips on how to handle multiple small children without hunching in a corner with my ears covered, feeling like I want to scream.  (I know, every mother feels like that some days, but this is not because of normal every-day stress, it's because of the sensory issues).

*It's often worse first thing in the morning.  Seems like my ears are particularly sensitive then.


Explorers are very non-secretory, so many non-secretor traits are strong in explorers.  

Do distant buzzing noises drive you crazy, like they do me?  

Sunlight in the spring makes me nuts too, I sometimes go into the bathroom and turn off the light so it's totally dark, and just breath for a few minutes, to calm down.  It's partially my bipolar SAD, and possibly a bit of a migraine.  As a kid I remember feeling real funky in the spring and saying things like "the clouds are breathing" because it looked like they work moving up and down like they were breathing.  I'm also often the only one to feel or notice distant earthquakes.  I get nauseated in buildings that have elevators (whether or not I ride the elevator).  ... Haha, I'll stop now... is that kind of what you're talking about?

Have you tried alternate nostril breathing?  


Type O+ blogger, secretor afterall. Gluten intolerant. With two gluten intolerant sons:  A+ Secretor 10 yo (also fructose intolerant and slightly egg allergic), and  O- 7yo.
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I always had problems with the light in the Autumn.
I would get so overwhelmingly sad. I would go outside and it would feel like a wave washing over my body. I would cry and cry.

This has lessened over the last year or two. Thank Goodness


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Yes, Melissa, things like that.  I hate fluorescent lights with a passion, yet that's all I've ever been around.  I hear them buzz and the flickering makes me cringe---yet nobody else (except my husband) notices.  I've tried the alternate nostril breathing a couple of times, but it made me feel so weird I decided not to do it anymore.


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