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Ribbit
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Tomato is a total avoid for me on SWAMI.


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Ah found it!

A Dr D quote:

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It should also be remembered that tossing a tomato into your salad is not going to give you all that much lycopene. Tomatoes have a very high water content, so not surprisingly you only find high concentrations of lycopene in tomato paste. You also find large amounts of tomato lectin in tomato paste.



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"Healthy people have the least overt symptoms from eating avoid foods." Dr. D'Adamo
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foods (even O BTD foods) that slow down the gatherer metabolism ..enhance production of AGEs ...high glycemic foods are avoids for gatherers and foods that interfere with optimal hormone function...your 4 foods you mentioned are black dot avoids and I'm sure they fit the criteria above loosely and once your weight is optimal you can reintroduce them sporadically back into your diet...


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Quoted from Lola

both sentences have the same meaning!


I had a SM...I guess I read it wrong...   I deleted the post..

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it might make sense if we'd try an approach of chlorphenoles and their
detoxing issues, dito proteomics and stress-factors...
...human HR60 and metaoblic symptoms....even their changes after treatments... and so on....  
I think I've lurked out a gem here ....,oooh...aaahh...sorry....
will shut up instantly....


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I think that the BTD is still very valid. I think it's a great place to start getting healthier and finding out how to eat better.

I'm really glad I did that diet for 10 years before I started the GTD. It helped me so much and was much easier to follow. But now I'm really enjoying the benefits I'm getting from this new diet. Maybe in 5 years I'll be ready for the Dr.'s next book.    


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I just want to make a comment on BTD.  I find it so hard to believe that people w/ autoimmune diseases refuse to look @ the diet connection.  I have been trying to let people know about my story on one of the forums & am completely ignored except for 2 people that have actually tried different diets for their conditions.  I have given them the website but haven't had any questions after.  I just don't get it.  After I did my research on autoimmune disease, I started looking for a guide to help finding my food intolerances & BTD was the only one that made sense to me.  I have given up going to that site.  
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good for you!
it shows you are curious, like the majority of members  in this community!


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Maybe in 5 years I'll be ready for the Dr.'s next book.    


I really think if he has another book, it won't be "eat this if you're this" but more of an autobiography, a book of testimonials, a book of scientific research, etc.  But that's just IMO!  SWAMI pretty much takes care of all the variations that are available!


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How can rice, rye, blueberries, bananas, mozzarella be good for someone who is an O and toxic if that same O is a Gatherer?????????

Doesn't the genotype diet render the BT diet unusable?

Aren't all the people following the BT diet just hurting their bodies?


The BTD is a single food 'value' system. The GTD is a multi-food 'relationship' system. They both work in their own way.


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I just want to make a comment on BTD.  I find it so hard to believe that people w/ autoimmune diseases refuse to look @ the diet connection.  I have been trying to let people know about my story on one of the forums & am completely ignored except for 2 people that have actually tried different diets for their conditions.  I have given them the website but haven't had any questions after.  I just don't get it.  After I did my research on autoimmune disease, I started looking for a guide to help finding my food intolerances & BTD was the only one that made sense to me.  I have given up going to that site.  

Some people define themselves by their disease . Lose your disease lose your identity.




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Quoted from Andrea AWsec
Some people define themselves by their disease . Lose your disease lose your identity.


Exactly!!!!

Debra



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. Maybe in 5 years I'll be ready for the Dr.'s next book.  

He said at the conference he's done writing books. Hope he changes his mind...

(That's ok Dr. D..just give me the info and I'll write it for you...   )

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Quoted from Dr. D


The BTD is a single food 'value' system. The GTD is a multi-food 'relationship' system. They both work in their own way.


I think that's why on the GTD I can eat dairy and wheat with no reaction, whereas on BTD I couldn't.  Something about that combination of foods healed my body.


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sorry...   that shows me absolutamente how our beliefs will
work....by identifications...!!!!!
In naturopathic medicin we know todays that several issues with foodintolerances might or will happen...when leaving alone for some weeks ...or even months.... hey I do remember I am not at all a so called epigentic specialist.... but here I think that it was merely the time of *no-consomation of those foods* wich  might have been da culprit...or da solution to get healed from.... ...

btw... unfortunately Debra is right here dito Andrea Aw...we call those issues psychosomatics ....yes...yesss...yesssssss..Peppy is still going to kill me for that statement...woohooo .. once upon the times...            I do have a lot of time....


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Quoted from Victoria
Genotype and Blood type diets are two different programs, and they really can't be compared.  It helps me to remember that they have different goals:

Blood type diet helps us make the best of the bodies that we have inherited, and to be as healthy as possible with the health or illness tendencies that we have.

Genotype diet re-programs our genes to express positive traits that may have been dormant for generations, and to tone down (suppress) traits that may have shown up as disease in our ancestors for generations.  This diet is designed to make deeper changes.

Duuuuuuuude:  your post is great.


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He said at the conference he's done writing books.

  WHAT?

Is Yoko Ono somehow involved in this?  

Oh, man.

...Well, maybe he said that in a fit of pique.  ...Then again, the GTD was a magnum opus.  What does one do after one's magnum opus?  ...I don't see why one couldn't do "Magnum Opus II:  The Untold Story"!

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Quoted from Amazone I.
sorry...   that shows me absolutamente how our beliefs will
work....by identifications...!!!!!
In naturopathic medicin we know todays that several issues with foodintolerances might or will happen...when leaving alone for some weeks ...or even months.... hey I do remember I am not at all a so called epigentic specialist.... but here I think that it was merely the time of *no-consomation of those foods* wich  might have been da culprit...or da solution to get healed from.... ...

btw... unfortunately Debra is right here dito Andrea Aw...we call those issues psychosomatics ....yes...yesss...yesssssss..Peppy is still going to kill me for that statement...woohooo .. once upon the times...            I do have a lot of time....


  Holy smokes I hope for their sake it's not the case
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No, Isa, I can assure you it's physical.  I'd occasionally try (or accidentally ingest) wheat or dairy and it would tear me up.  I didn't WANT it to.  It was completely unexpected that I could eat it again without reaction.  It didn't have anything to do with mentally overcoming anything.  If that were the case, I'd be able to mentally overcome my nightshade allergy.


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Genoharmonic foods are amazing!



I think the nature of books is changing. People will have kindles and download information from the internet, so who needs a paper book?
Oh, I know some will squirm about it.

Peter has a business to build now too! He has stores and products that will reach the masses. He has always been one to see the future and  adjust to it,  I think it is in his genes .

Although the nonnies could use a book just for them, don't ya think?


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Although the nonnies could use a book just for them, don't ya think?



I TOTALLY agree with this idea.

But then again, I am a royal.  

Debra


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I kind of felt like Live Right was just for us.


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What about bizarre Gatherer laws like: no orange juice, but you can have oranges & no string cheese but you can have mozzarella.  Entirely confusing.

Started my diet five days ago and feel no differences so far.  How long has it taken others before feeling better?
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