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This is a question I put long ago and I'll repeat it here: Before Dr. D published the GTD, it was clear cut that chicken is an avoid for B's. I repeated this instruction to all my B friends and acquaintances, because I accepted this as a severe warning, understanding that chicken for B's was life threatening in the long run. Then, when GTD came to light, I understood that a part of B people are Gatherers, for whom chicken is a black dot. Therefore, if you are a B and you don't know your GT, it is still recommended to totally avoid chicken. But after all, isn't it better and more practical to verify your GT for that matter? Poor chicken!  |
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| Sahara |
| Saturday, January 28, 2012, 6:17pm |
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It's just more refined and specific. I can never eat apples regularly, just not a food that ever worked for me & now I know why. Genotype helps you find better food choices. |
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ibhipru |
| Sunday, July 15, 2012, 3:53pm |
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I still haven't seen a scientific explanation for how and why foods like Whey Protein and 2% milk can be beneficial for me in BTD but be "avoid" in the GTD. How can taking some body measurements invalidate a lab result showing a positive or negative blood reaction to a particular food? Can someone give me a concrete example of the scientific proptcol used to render a BTD beneficial food into a GTD avoid? |
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Lloyd |
| Sunday, July 15, 2012, 4:09pm |
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Are you looking at Gatherer GT? If so, be aware that the generic GT rating is heavily influenced by the large blood type O population for whom most dairy will be an avoid.
The way around this issue, of course, is to run a SWAMI. Which is more individualized.
The science is not for you, the specific individual, but for the GTD group of Gatherers as a whole when using the generic diet. |
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Lola |
| Sunday, July 15, 2012, 7:46pm |
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tomatoes are a toxin for this O here!  |
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Conor |
| Sunday, July 15, 2012, 9:18pm |
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Seraffa |
| Monday, July 16, 2012, 12:14am |
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I've completely replaced tomatoes with peaches in salsa. 
What??!! And I can't have peaches anymore  and MUST eat tomatoes as a superfood. I want a watermeolon salsa, then!  |
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prunella |
| Wednesday, July 18, 2012, 4:51pm |
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I seem to do fine with tomatoes. Perhaps I am deluding myself! Would anyone mind describing their tomato responses? --digestive, inflammatory?
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The sun, with all those planets around it and dependent on it, can still ripen a bunch of grapes as if it had nothing else in the universe to do.
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| Wednesday, July 18, 2012, 5:18pm |
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I seem to do fine with tomatoes. Perhaps I am deluding myself! Would anyone mind describing their tomato responses? --digestive, inflammatory?
I don't know about an 0-Type but tomatoes will wreck my nervous system and set my stomach on fire when I've eaten very much of it. Of course, I haven't had any tomato in a very long time! |
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| Wednesday, July 18, 2012, 5:36pm |
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always back of the knee pain, but that is with all nightshades. |
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| Adam |
| Wednesday, July 18, 2012, 6:59pm |
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I've completely replaced tomatoes with peaches in salsa. 
And, I've replaced tomatoes with oven-roasted tomatillos. Yum! |
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| Adam |
| Wednesday, July 18, 2012, 7:04pm |
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I seem to do fine with tomatoes. Perhaps I am deluding myself! Would anyone mind describing their tomato responses? --digestive, inflammatory?
My personal experience with tomatoes is acid reflux and indigestion. And, to think I used to be on an heirloom tomato seed forum with all the big wigs, including Carolyn Male, the world-renown expert, from whom I received seeds. And, I had a beautiful garden with many tastes, shapes, colors, and sizes of beautiful heirloom tomatoes. But, that was in another, much younger and uneducated life. |
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ruthiegirl |
| Wednesday, July 18, 2012, 7:51pm |
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I still haven't seen a scientific explanation for how and why foods like Whey Protein and 2% milk can be beneficial for me in BTD but be "avoid" in the GTD. How can taking some body measurements invalidate a lab result showing a positive or negative blood reaction to a particular food? Can someone give me a concrete example of the scientific proptcol used to render a BTD beneficial food into a GTD avoid?
I can't give you concrete scientific examples, but I can explain the underlying concepts in lay terms. All foods have "good parts" and "bad parts" for each individual. How a food is rated will depend on how harmful the "bad parts" are, and how beneficial the "good parts" are, as well as how easy it is to find those nutrients in other food sources. When looking at foods through the "blood type diet lens" certain nutritional needs are emphasized. When looking through the "genotype diet lens" different needs are emphasized. When aiming for a different health goal, certain negatives may become "less important" while certain positives may become "much more important", turning an "avoid" into a "beneficial." Conversely, the positives may become "less helpful" and the negatives "more harmful" and a food may move from beneficial to avoid. This is where SWAMI really shines. Instead of worrying about how 2% cow's milk rates for B's in general or how it rates for Gatherers in general, the computer software will evaluate each food against your own personal needs. |
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prunella |
| Thursday, July 19, 2012, 1:05am |
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Thanks for all the tomato reaction descriptions. I know folks who simply cannot eat nightshades. I will pay more attention to my own body, but I have never noticed anything particular. OTOH, I eat far less tomato sauce since I gave up wheat and dairy.
Adam, I feel sad to think of the loss of tomatoes in your life, although I realize it is an overall improvement for you.
I was The Queen of Bread and Cheese--known among friends and co-workers as a baker of artisan breads, collector of fancy cheeses, friend of goat cheese artisans. After some months of grieving, I am becoming the best GF baker I know. I am excited to see that swami allows my some whey cheeses. |
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The sun, with all those planets around it and dependent on it, can still ripen a bunch of grapes as if it had nothing else in the universe to do.
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Lola |
| Thursday, July 19, 2012, 1:08am |
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enjoy your swami! watch those frequency values |
| ''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98 DNA mt/Haplo H; Y-chrom/J2(M172);ISTJ The harder you are on yourself, the easier life will be on you! |
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Amazone I. |
| Wednesday, August 8, 2012, 5:07pm |
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btw.. I'm demanding myselve right now if Swami-testing is comparable with normal DNA testings..... as you know I've passed two tests and here those told me that I can have normal allopathic medications... what I denied and wrote back to them and asking how it comes....   ... so ok those only tested the cytochrom P450 enzymatic system and they told me that I don't have any gene dammage or defect and that all is functioning normally, even that I am a fast acylator...what seems not to be usual for explorers.... so is that really equal in validity... normal DNA testings and biometric values  any replies are more then welcomed .....     |
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