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misspudding
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Had an interesting conversation with my mom and her twin (fraternal), my aunt, when in town this weekend.

Their mom (my grandmother) was A+ (part French-Canadian, but mostly American mutt).  Their dad, they're pretty sure, was O (mainly Irish and Danish (his mom was born in Jutland)).  My mom is O+ and my aunt is O-.  From what I can tell, I think my mom is a hunter or explorer and aunt is very likely explorer.

Mom didn't go through menopause, really, until she had a hysterectomy at 59.  She had fibroids.  My aunt, who also had fibroids (badly), went through menopause at 41!

Just curious if anyone knows their genotype and has gone through menopause.  Or if Dr. D or anyone else has statistics on age of menopause and genotype.  Pretty curious.




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My mother went through menopause after a polyps operation at age 42..0 neg. I am 0 neg. and i went through menopause around 47-48. Are you asking if 0 negatives go through menopause earlier than other blood types?


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hhmmm interesting thread my mum is a B Rh- but I'm not sure if she is an exporer, she once told me that she didn't remarked lots when going threw menopause....not even hot flushes, that lucky bum   and she was about 48 to 52 something likewise.... now I'm still 51 and get my everyday embracings with hot flushes... ..(omG.flu or fla   inggglish langguagge..   = pidginin as usual   .... but since I've stopped to take l'tyrosine and changed to l'phenylalanine & l'carnitin, it got much better with the feelings of a burning backside     (back  near my kidney's = so I think glad to not overdue my adrenal glands...


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My mum is O neg ( I think explorer or maybe gatherer )
She menopause around 54-55 - not much trouble - a few hot spells and dry vagina.
Her mother O neg as well ( no idea about her genotype) had menopause around 51-52


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I am 0+sec, 52 1/2, still waiting to get it over with....think I have fibroids, but not diagnosed.  I think my mom says she was 54, so I am hoping this is about right.  Have a sister 5 years younger who had a complete hysterectomy for problems she's had all her life, anemia, fibroid growths, etc.  Mom is 0+, sister with the problems is 0-, not a btder
and a younger sister, type 0+ who is 42, not sure what is up with her.....
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Speaking of twins.....my brilliant 6-year-old asked me the other day if identical twins would have the same blood type.  I assumed yes, but does anybody know?


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Speaking of twins.....my brilliant 6-year-old asked me the other day if identical twins would have the same blood type.  I assumed yes, but does anybody know?


Yes they do and also the same DNA although there can be some slight variations due to outside factors as well as the environment in the womb


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I am type A, Warrior.  Finished menopause at age 53.  


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I am a type O+ Sec, Started in to Perimenopause at age 32-hot flashes and the like after the fifth child. A year and a half later I had a hyster. This took me from being sick (and sometimes unable to walk) for three weeks to one of being sick a nauseated only. The doctor tells me this is when my'right buddy' (ovary) is ovulating, but I do not produce enough hormone. I have horrible time with vag dryness and lack of drive, luckily my husband is understanding and is willing to help in anyway possible to make enjoyable. Come to find out it may actually have to do with candida.

Hope this helps. angel


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I started at 51 ...still in it but it seems to be slowing...I might be with Chloe on the age...(hopefully)

My mother was A as I am, and ate a B diet. She had terrible fibroids and a hyserectomy at 55.  I can say that I am intact and doing well.
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I've been having hot flashes for about five years (started when I was 45).
They have lessened, but I still usually get about 15 - 20 hot flashes everyday. They're just not as severe as they used to be. I used to get completely drenched!
I had a partial hysterectomy (I still have both my ovaries) when I was 32, due to endometriosis.
So, since I don't have a period anymore I'm not sure if I"ll know when it's over. Maybe when the hot flashes stop.  

I too, think a lot of my problems come from overgrowth of Candida. I've been having die off symptoms for about four months. I'm slowly getting rid of it all and the extra weight seems to be going with it.  

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Just finished reading a book on iodine....By Dr. Brownstein.  Very interesting.  Many
women with fibroids and menopausal issues are super low in iodine.  Iodine can be
obtained from sea vegetables. Although in this book, he's speaking about a
formula called Iodoral...  When iodine is low, this doctor says, estrogen can
be dominant. And estrogen dominance is one of the main reasons for so many
fibroids and hysterectomies.  I saw this happen to my sister...  A lot of estrogen dominant women are low in thyroid hormones.

http://www.curesnaturally.com/Articles/Misc/Articles/Misc107.html

http://www.shareguide.com/iodine.html

Get enough iodine, and you give yourself the necessary tools to produce proper thyroid hormones.  I didn't want to take the supplement Iodoral because it requires you have your iodine measured first...but I simply added a lot more sea vegetables
to my diet...I think this is especially important for women eating soy.  In Asia, when they eat soy, they always eat a lot of sea vegetables. Asian women don't seem
to have thyroid disorders. Nor do they have a lot hysterectomies.  My chinese
doctor/acupuncturist told me this.

Read the reviews on his book.

http://www.amazon.com/Iodine-W.....amp;showViewpoints=1


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I'm O- secretor, measure as Gatherer.  I didn't stop until I was 58 or59.  My endocrinologist at the time thought I was some kind of freak of nature.  Switched endos and he thought a tiny tiny dose of hormones (1/2 a low dose patch) would help with sleep issues.  I called him on my 60th birthday and said that my period wasn't what I wanted for my birthday.  No kidding - the day of my 60th birthday I got my period!  I took off the patch and never tried it again.  
My mother's an A and she stopped at 50.
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Genotype is Explorer, and menopause started in earnest at age 52 (April, 2000 was my last period).  At the time, I was fairly BTD compliant, and had just read Dr. Lee's book, so, very possibly for those reasons, menopause was pretty much a non-event. My mother died at 54, and as far as I know, she was still having periods.

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Fascinating stuff, ladies!

Found out later on my trip that my other aunt, who is A+ (probably a Warrior) went through menopause pretty late (late 50s).  Our grandmother was A+ (fits the Teacher stereotype to a T), also went through menopause fairly late (late 50s/early 60s).  That aunt is aging gracefully, though has diabetes as of a year ago (she's 70).  My grandmother aged beautifully.

My O negative aunt is not aging gracefully (she's 62) and, on second thought, I'm starting to believe she is a hunter.  She's always been very thin and has a pretty reactive system and had a ton of problems with wheat when she was younger.

They all had problems with fibroids, though.




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My last little bit of blood droppings came in July the year I turned 50.  I do not miss them.  I do not miss hot flashes.  


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Just finished reading a book on iodine....By Dr. Brownstein.  Very interesting.  Many women with fibroids and menopausal issues are super low in iodine.  Iodine can be obtained from sea vegetables


I don't know what my problem is but when I try to supplement my iodine, I end up with a migraine somehow.  I just read in the First magazine about  iodine deficiency and they recommend powdered Sea Vegies you can sprinkle on food called Sea Seasonings Triple Blend Flakes at the hfs for $3.50 for 1.5 oz. I need to check the ingredients for avoids though.  I thought that iodine in my vitamin plus iodized sea salt would be enough?    I do have a fibroid..not bothering me but the doctor found it.

Sea Vegies

Thank you bisnonna    I have a total of three cats.

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Hey check this out..

Phytochemicals in kelp have been shown to absorb and eliminate radioactive elements and heavy metal contaminants from our bodies. Sprinkle on soups, salads, tofu, pasta, stir-fries, dressings, dips, sauces, breads, tabouli..
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Quoted from 815
Hey check this out..

Phytochemicals in kelp have been shown to absorb and eliminate radioactive elements and heavy metal contaminants from our bodies. Sprinkle on soups, salads, tofu, pasta, stir-fries, dressings, dips, sauces, breads, tabouli..


I buy bags of kelp and open them up so that they will dry even more so that I am able to crush and grind them with my bullet.  I have them in a parmesan cheese shaker (no cheese   ) and sprinkle them on  most of my meals.  It even goes into my smoothies when I have them.   When I don't do this I get warm and red ears.  Have not had any hot flashes per se.   Years ago, before BTD, I used to get night sweats, but have not had any since then.   I started early...just before I turned 40.   If it weren't for this way of life I am sure I would have many more symptoms.    Kelp also adds a nice flavour to your foods.

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Age 52, but less than 2 months from my 53rd birthday. Very easy menopause, b/c I walked a lot & improved my diet! My mom had a bad one, but died of cancer at 55, so I'm sure her body was toxic which affected certain things.  They say the average age in the US is 51. My menopause was about when I thought it would be. My last wisdom tooth erupted right after that!  My teeth usually erupted later than average,but that was something else!


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Speaking of twins.....my brilliant 6-year-old asked me the other day if identical twins would have the same blood type.  I assumed yes, but does anybody know?


Oh how cute!  The answer is yes, they are identical.


Menopause at 39 albeit sugically induced.  I had suffered years of severe endometriosis.  When they did the sugery and removed the uterus it fell into pieces.  The endometriosis destroyed the ovaries too.  Nothing salvagable all of it had to be removed.  They put me on hormone and the weight gain began.  Needless to say, I am not on hormone anymore.  I am seriously considering bio identical hormone therapy due to the onset of vaginal atrophy.



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They put me on hormone and the weight gain began.  Needless to say, I am not on hormone anymore.  I am seriously considering bio identical hormone therapy due to the onset of vaginal atrophy.

BHRT caused me to gain weight. The Bi-Est made me gain 10 extra lbs.  Just an fyi.

My sister had endometriosis also and had a hysterectomy at 35.  I had my second son at 35 (going on 36) lucky for me I was ok, as I had my sons late. It's better to have kids young. If I had it to do all over, I would have had them younger. Now here I am in menopause still trying to raise them, when I should be having less stress because of the change..
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I buy bags of kelp and open them up so that they will dry even more so that I am able to crush and grind them with my bullet.  I have them in a parmesan cheese shaker (no cheese   ) and sprinkle them on  most of my meals.  It even goes into my smoothies when I have them.      Kelp also adds a nice flavour to your foods.


Thanks for the tip Debra!     I've been wondering how to eat the kelp..in the big sheets..when I tried to eat it as a vegie, in soups for instance, it's slimey..don't like the consistancy..so I got the Triple Blend Flakes today at the hfs. They also have kombu with cayenne but avoid of course for me. I got some white bean and spinach soup and it was very bland. I sprinkled the Triple Blend on it and it really improved the taste!
This is a whole new world of sea vegies opening up here! Wow!    I have a Bullet also!
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Yes thanks for the talk of kelp...made me look up and write down the sea veggies that are superfoods for me.  Going to get some pronto if they help with menopause!  I am sure they do other good things too  .


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I have heard that the hormones can be 'held' in the fat of your body, so even if organs have been removed, the hormones can still have a 'home.' Can someone clarify that if it is not understood?
MF: I still would rather have my kids older than younger. But the biggest drawback would be when they are middle-aged, we may be too old to enjoy them as long. If I am a healthy 80, I guess I will enjoy my average 50-y.o. sons, but who knows?


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I started peri-menopause in my mid-thirty's and didn't finish for a long time.  I had hot flashes for years,even after the flow stopped (yeah!) up until I stopped eating soy and finally in my 60's I am going to cut back on the HRT and hopefully get off all together.  No debate needed.
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Quoted from Mrs T O+
I have heard that the hormones can be 'held' in the fat of your body, so even if organs have been removed, the hormones can still have a 'home.' Can someone clarify that if it is not understood?


What Dr John Lee explains is that body fat is a reservoir for androgens that can convert to estrogens. On the other hand the more body fat the more estrogen. Since excess estrogen stimulates body fat, a vicious cycle can be generated.

The original hormones still need to come from somewhere and in a woman with no ovaries or menopausal, they can originate in the adrenal glands.  That is why it is so important to have healthy adrenals (no stress!) when you enter menopause.

And BTW, at 62 and I am still having hot flashes! Nothing has helped them go away completely so far. Its not a big problem though. The heat and wine are the worse triggers for me. I have been taking FEM Balance now for 2 months and it is promising but I haven't been in very hot weather yet. I have tried many other things: Vitamin E, the usual recommended herbs, progesterone cream, maca, acupuncture, liver support. If I don't take anything it is worse though.

That is one reason I am doing the liver flush regularly, to rid my liver of what might be obstructing it.  

Maybe they will never go away completely. Who knows. I am still trying.  


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Quoted from Mrs T O+
I have heard that the hormones can be 'held' in the fat of your body, so even if organs have been removed, the hormones can still have a 'home.' Can someone clarify that if it is not understood?


Just like with meat  ( beef etc..) the bad things are held in the fat, we have the same problem.

Often when people lose weight too quickly they get sick, one example is gallstones. The body can't rid itself of the waste fast enough so it does what it can then the waste builds up some place, probably the bodies weak spot. Slow weight loss is best, it gives the body time to adjust.

I am  pre menopausal at 46, thanks for this thread it gives me hope that it might not be so bad.





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read the tutorial specially lesson 10 on non secretors....
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I'm 40, started perimenopause in 30s--- 33-38, have been on pill since 33.  Have started using some bhrt, will probably switch over entirely within the year.  Thought I'd pull this thread up since it's a  pressing, ongoing issue that drives me nuts.  Last fall I started getting waistline weight gain.  That's better but now its all this itching & interrupted sleep.  Ugh, I worry it will never end.  Think I started having problems early due to vegan diet in my 20s.  
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I found out a lot since I posted on this thread a couple of years ago.

1) Even though I still had my ovaries, they probably stopped "working" about a year after my hysterectomy. So that explains the vaginal pain and dryness for the past 20 years!  

2) I'm now taking bio-identical hormones and found out the best Estrogen cream (according to my doctor) is Estriol applied vaginally. I've only been using it for six weeks, but I'm noticing I'm having a better response to it than the other Estrogen cream I was using. I use progesterone cream as well.

3) A lot of my hot flashes were due to Lyme disease (I was diagnosed about a year ago) my body fighting off the many infections due to tick bites.


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I've had some itchies & dry eyes lately even with all the hormones I use.  Really need to go off the pill.  I am hormonal dependant though, will be on BHRT likely for life.  Wish I could be a little bigger & heavier.  Being small boned has its drawbacks.  I am actually terrified of menopause.  Have been going through a semi agiraphobic phase.  My worse fear is I wing be able to get my hormones.  I worry  constantly.
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Ladies, I have been on bio-identical hormones now for two months and they have CHANGED MY LIFE!  For about three months before, and for three months on, three months off, for a year and a half now, I have been cycling in and out of getting a period.  When I don't get my period, I didn't sleep, has terrible night sweats and hot flashes and was absolutely exhausted.  My adrenal glands were overworked and everything was out of whack    I finally went to a hormone specialist who used bio-identical hormones in the transdermal cream form and my sleep patterns are almost completely normal after two months of using the hormones.  I am on a fairly low dose, but it is still making a huge different.

Dr. Lee's book focuses a lot on estrogen dominance, and I tried the OTC progesterone cream, but it did not help the night sweats and hot flashes.  Come to find out, I was very estrogen deficient, which is easy to spot, because I am a very small person with very little body fat.  As mentioned above, body fat is where your body stores the chemicals needed to convert to estrogen.  Unfortunately with very little body fat, I had no stores of necessary androgens (I forget what it is called) to be converted to estrogen.

Dr. Uzzi Reiss's book, The Natural Superwoman was a great read for me because he focuses on all the potential issues associated with peri-menopause and menopause, rather than focusing more on estrogen dominance.  Together, however, Dr. Lee's book and Dr. Reiss's books make for informed reading about peri-menopause and menopause.

It was a difficult decision for me to go on the bio-identical hormones, but I decided to do it because my doctor told me that my lack of sleep would cause SERIOUS health issues that would take their toll.  Plus it was so negatively impacting my life that I had to do something.  I'm very happy with the bio-identical hormones.  


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Yes I liked The Natural Superwoman also.  Elizabeth Vliet has written some great books, Screaming To Be Heard especially.  I've even read Sex, Lies & Menopause by T.S. Wiley.  I'm  very pro BHRT.  Need to have my body fat tested.  It's not so much that its low as that I am small boned (ectomorphic) & ate an age accelerating diet in my 20s.  I'm thinking of reading the Schwarzbein Principle first.  Of course I give first priority to btd when I read something but I do think there is a link between a lack of saturated fats from animal foods & accelerated menopause..I couldn't get it reversed even in my 30s.  Now I'm 40 & the ovaries won't ever work like they used to.  Oh well.  I wish I had eaten better when I was younger!  That durn vegan diet if only it could be stamped out like the plague!
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I am type A, Warrior.  Finished menopause at age 53.  


PS. Updated to correct....5/9/11  I'm not a Warrior....I'm a Teacher...I measured incorrectly and followed the wrong diet for 18 months before I did my SWAMI.



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I had a hyster last year (age 37, kept ovaries) I had massive fibroids,endo and was severely anemic. My choice is what was best for me, I have more energy, zest and I know now what it feels like to be freed from the bondages of maxi pads !! I'm not sure what menopause will hold for me, hopefully I'm like my mama who swore she never had a hot flash ever!!


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I really want to post here, as I am 54, still have pretty regular but long periods.  I recently got some medical coverage, so I went to a gyn to be evaluated.  Had an expensive series of lab work and sonogram to find out what I knew already.  Large fibroids in my uterus.  I also still have slightly wonky liver enzymes, but my thyroid is good (even though on synthroid still) and I was also anemic.
So now I am taking floradix and Iron Aid.  I am taking supps to support my liver and explorer supps.

I guess I wanted to say that all these years while I did the btd, I still ate my share of cheeses and dairy products.  My meats were not always grass fed.  But I have changed that in lieu of having a hysterectomy.  I believe I am so close to menopause, and the fibroids could shrink once it hits.  I also believe it's my "weak" liver that isn't processing hormones well that is part of the problem.  I am really avoiding dairy now, unless it's organic and on my list (only mozzarella, feta & pecorino).  I also decided to avoid soy, as it seems to exacerbate my symptoms and I get really emotional after indulging in it.  Trying to eat more bennie fishes and red meats, lots of good greens and
things like quinoa or lentils that are on my list too.  So far so good.  I am hoping to report back in
several months that things have turned around.   I really don't want to have a hysterectomy, especially since my insurance isn't that great.  I can just imagine the expense!
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I had my last period the month after I turned 41.  I had had my right ovary out in '83 due to endometriosis.  Still get the occasional hot flush, but generally very tolerable.



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I really want to post here, as I am 54, still have pretty regular but long periods.  I recently got some medical coverage, so I went to a gyn to be evaluated.  Had an expensive series of lab work and sonogram to find out what I knew already.  Large fibroids in my uterus.  I also still have slightly wonky liver enzymes, but my thyroid is good (even though on synthroid still) and I was also anemic.
So now I am taking floradix and Iron Aid.  I am taking supps to support my liver and explorer supps.

I guess I wanted to say that all these years while I did the btd, I still ate my share of cheeses and dairy products.  My meats were not always grass fed.  But I have changed that in lieu of having a hysterectomy.  I believe I am so close to menopause, and the fibroids could shrink once it hits.  I also believe it's my "weak" liver that isn't processing hormones well that is part of the problem.  I am really avoiding dairy now, unless it's organic and on my list (only mozzarella, feta & pecorino).  I also decided to avoid soy, as it seems to exacerbate my symptoms and I get really emotional after indulging in it.  Trying to eat more bennie fishes and red meats, lots of good greens and
things like quinoa or lentils that are on my list too.  So far so good.  I am hoping to report back in
several months that things have turned around.   I really don't want to have a hysterectomy, especially since my insurance isn't that great.  I can just imagine the expense!


Paula, can you tell us if you are on any type of hormones now, such as birth control, etc?  The reason I ask is that you mention that your liver isn't processing the hormones.  Bio-identical hormones are a cream that you apply to your body and they do not have to pass through the liver.  I am not sure if you are there yet, but if you do need something in the way of hormones, with your liver issues, it sounds like bio-identical transdermal hormones would be best for you.

I don't mean to be nosy, but your post has me wondering if maybe I missed an earlier post where you shared that you are taking HRT or birth control.  


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massive fibroids,endo and was severely anemic.


were you a starchatarian before??


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Paula O+
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Patty,

To tell the truth, after my 5th child was born in '90, I had a tubal ligation.  I don't take any hormones.  I did try some progesterone cream, but I guess I am worried that it might cause the fibroids to grow.   I read alot of articles that say it can go either way.   With a weak liver, it seems like I don't process hormones well.  I think I may be dealing with xenoestrogen issues.   Victoria suggested vitex, which i have added.  My only concern there is that it tends to work on smaller fibroids, mine is pretty large.   Also working on keeping insulin levels steady cause that may really be the key.
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Paula,

Do you have a OB/GYN who is an expert in hormones?  If not, maybe you could see if you can find someone who is an expert and will prescribe the bio-identicals if you need them.  After a hysterectomy, I would assume you need some hormone support.  Obviously, the liver is a key component to hormones.  

What I like about my OB/GYN hormone specialist is that she tells me that she needs to understand how hormones affect every system of the body.  The other thing my OB/GYN recommends is acupuncture.  She is really very focused on natural health.  I am sure there would be someone really good in the SF area.  Maybe you have already found someone, and if so, I wish you well.  It sounds like you have a fairly complicated series of issues.  Hormones may not be ok for you.  


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As far as blood type and age of menopause goes: the females in my maternal side of the family are Type O's and Type B's. They had menopause between ages 55-57.

My paternal grandmother was only about 45 at menopause---her blood type is unknown; but she was a little taller than average, large boned with chiseled facial features and hour-glass build, and in-yer-face, controlling personality (and competitive). Possibly Type O Hunter?
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Patty,
With a weak liver, it seems like I don't process hormones well.  I think I may be dealing with xenoestrogen issues.   Victoria suggested vitex, which i have added.  My only concern there is that it tends to work on smaller fibroids, mine is pretty large.


If this is a duplicate suggestion, my apologies.  I haven't read this thread in a while.

Detoxical-D, Dr. D's formula containing calcium D-glucarate as a primary ingredient, is custom designed to help the body detoxify the liver. It is especially effective for xenoestrogens.
http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NP053



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Detoxical-D, Dr. D's formula containing calcium D-glucarate as a primary ingredient, is custom designed to help the body detoxify the liver. It is especially effective for xenoestrogens.
http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NP053
Thanks heaps for posting Victoria - that is very interesting as I didn't know "...Some compromised individuals may have less than optimal levels of Calcium D-glucarate, which can render dangerous levels of toxins more difficult for the body to neutralize and remove..."
I took calcium for a while & over that time I did experience more detoxing but had never connected the actual calcium affect??!! I had always thought it was JUST because I was at the time walking daily, having chia seeds for breakfast every morning & sometimes as an afternoon snack & drinking more water because I was somewhere hot...

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I'm glad this thread was revived, as it is interesting reading what other women are experiencing.  I am 53, O neg Explorer, and I'm perimenopausal.  I'm still having periods, though irregularly now.  Hot flashes and night sweats intermittantly over the past 1.5 years (or so).  Right now, I'm not having them (THANK goodness!!).  I did some research and had my gyn check my hormones (blood test, and not saliva as Dr. Lee recommends), and I am 99.9%  confident that I'm a classic estrogen-dominance case.  Progesterone low due to low or no- ovulation.  Estrogen reading as "normal" for a woman of child bearing age.  Although...I don't know how reliable one blood test on one particular day could be.  I've had it twice, though, and both times estrogen reads as normal, not low.  A sonagram picked up one small uterine fibroid, and one ovary that is "shriveled", whatever that is properly called.  I've been using an OTC bio-identical transdermal progesterone cream, which has alleviated my pretty much 30-day a month PMS symptoms, and it helps me sleep well at night.  That has been a blessing.

My mother is O neg and I don't know her age of menopause.  She had a hysterectomy (uterus only) at around age 20 or 21.  She was unable to bear children for some reason and was told she was lucky to have survived having just the one (me).  Her mother is also O negative.  I don't know her menopausal history either.  It wasn't discussed in my family.  
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Yes, it's good Victoria brought up Detoxical-D... Dr. Nash prescribed it for me during the luteal phase of my cycle. Apparently the body needs to rid itself of toxin build-up particularly during this phase.

Regarding menopause age, my mom was 43 when she had her menopause and she is a Type B. I have been experiencing perimenopausal symptoms since my mid-30s so I guess I'm not too far from menopause. I wouldn't mind if that helps me to shrink my fibroids


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Regarding menopause age, my mom was 43 when she had her menopause and she is a Type B. I have been experiencing perimenopausal symptoms since my mid-30s so I guess I'm not too far from menopause. I wouldn't mind if that helps me to shrink my fibroids


That could explain a lot of your struggles.  And here's hoping that everything improves when that 'blessed time' arrives.     



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Thanks, Victoria. I really look forward to this "blessed time" of my life  


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Intriguing thread. I am 50 now, and still having fairly normal periods. No hot flushes (as we call them in Australia) or anything else obviously connected with menopause.

I was very interested to read earlier in the thread about kelp and iodine. I have been taking bladderwrack tablets for a good while now...maybe that is helping. I have also been taking maca for about 4 years now - I read somewhere else in another thread that Lola found it very helpful through menopause. Perhaps that too is helping.

I incorporated vitex, which I understand from one of my classes is helpful with sleep issues (even for men!) I am sleeping pretty well currently.

Another interesting thing I came across in a class was the recommendation of ginkgo biloba for congestive dysmenorrhoea - that draggy pain during menstruation that goes down the back of your legs. I have been trialling it on myself for three months now (it takes that long to feel the effects) and my last period required NO painkillers. That was a first for me!!!


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I seem to be on my way.. No cycles for awhile.. the last one was a heavy drenching waterfall. (:  I am now having hot flashes BUT these may be from the Wellbrutin my doc has me on.. anyone on this?  And I have noticed some new undereye wrinkles in the thin skin and it seemed to just be there one day!   what to do about that???? suggestions please!!  

p.s.  i did have a huge fibroid in my mid thirties and had a myomectomy for it.  very painful recovery.  i feel it was from emotional stagnation in my relationship and in my career..  after reading Christine Northrup's book... which talks about the possible emotional reasons for dis-ease.
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Bluessinger, the very heavy periods may be due to the fact that in meno and peri-meno, women are not producing progesterone any more. You can become estrogen dominant and have heavy periods; and develop uterine fibroids (fibroids are one cause of hyper-heavy periods).
With the skin beginning to thin, that is from lack of testosterone, likely. When a women loses her normal progesterone, she also loses testosterone---partly because the female body converts a small amount of that monthly progesterone to testosterone. It is testosterone that gives elasticity and firmness to skin and muscles.

I am not a doctor, but a post-meno female speaking from experience and a lot reading and research on my own. If you are so inclined, you may want to consider speaking with a gynecologist about bio-identical hormone replacement. I have gone that route, and found that it works well.

Just a word about hot flashes: It seems to happen more frequently to women who have a tendency to adrenal burnout. Adrenals are directly linked to the pituitary---and weak adrenals throw everything else off (the working feed-back loop between pituitary, adrenals and thyroid). It's different with each woman---some are under tremendous, long-term stress which will weaken your adrenals if the stress is not addressed. Other women thrive on stress....and may never have hot flashes. Again, personal experience: I had unspeakable stress 10 years ago which made me ill---and then a year's worth of hotflashes that would take down a rhinocerous!
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