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SWAMI tweaked Explorer Super Taster from Illinois Kyosha Nim
Location: Lombard, Illinois (Chicago suburb)
I was always good at math & science. But things that require eye-hand coordination – forget it. I got a D in sewing in school. In HS I lasted only 2 weeks at a grocery clerk job because I was too slow. But if they had asked me to add up the order in my head I would have been fine.
I am B- NON-Sec Explorer; my son is B+ SEC Nomad; my Mother was O+; and my Father was AB- SWAMI Thanksgiving present 2008 Revised from Arlene B- NonSec to RedLilac on 3/31/06
I know exactly what you mean! Exercise is always my outlet for anything like a bad mood. Running always makes me feel better and helps me clear my head. As for the learning part I have always been really good at math and science too so I'm not sure that has anything to do with being an explorer.
I am definitely math challenged. I don't know whether or not I have a math learning disability. We didn't have all the LD diagnoses when I was young. I did so well in my other subjects that I don't think it ever occurred to anyone to wonder why I was struggling so hard with math (eventually just giving up and learning avoidance strategies). I certainly didn't gravitate toward math in college, but was forced to take algebra and statistics. I made B+ in those, but I think they must have been math for dummies courses. I don't know how I made it through them - intensive short term cramming most likely since I haven't retained a shred of it.
I'm not a math person either, but I didn't realize it for a long time. I did it fairly well, but it didn't come easily like verbal reasoning does. Conceptually, math is interesting, but grinding through the problems (i.e. application) is very tedious for me.
I was considered academically gifted, so I don't know if it's correct to identify myself as learning-disabled, but I sure have been behind the curve in acquiring my social skills and dealing-with-the-real-world skills. Maybe I have some mild autistic tendencies that come out when I'm overwhelmed or very fatigued. My auditory processing isn't quite right, and I suppose therein lies the problem.
I had bad math teachers when i was in school, but as i got older, principles of math just clicked easier. The only math i always excelled at was geometry. I apparently have above average visio-spatial ability. Hard number crunching usually got me lost and frustrated...there is only one way to do problems correctly and i would waste time trying to figure other ways to get the problem done easier than just learn how to correctly do the problems.
I definitely lean toward the challenged side of maths...Given time & no stress I can work things out...I ended up doing really well & enjoying it at I level lower in last year of high school (got a credit) but had passed at top level all high school so don't know if it was the new teacher not giving me enough time (Mother taught at same school & thinks this was the case ) Also not sure whether I have done myself any favours in later life as Mr P is absolutely brilliant in that field, so I leave it to him...Was brought up with the saying "why have a dog a bark yourself" Not saying he is a dog, mind you...
I don't have any learning disabilities (other than after a small concussion in high school) but my interests are a pendulum between right brain for a few years and left brain for a few years at a time. I tend to gravitate toward hard sciences and math because I enjoy how non-subjective they are...generally an answer on a test is either right or wrong, it doesn't depend on if the teacher "likes" it. I loved art, music, and writing, but wasn't always the teacher's favorite and didn't always get the grade I worked hard for...if I'm going to work that hard I want to know I can get a good grade.
Even though I had no trouble academically, my brain is certainly wired differently in a lot of ways, a bit toward autistic spectrum stuff. I really need to work on my face/name recognition skills for one thing...no political career in my future! I wish I'd challenged myself physically more when I was in school, martial arts would have made my life better. It would have helped with sports to have that coordination and confidence.
Type O+ Secretor. Long time believer, currently redeeming myself from a decade or so of spotty compliance. Mom of 2 (A & O), Wife of 1 (A).
I actually did some reading yesterday on autism. I think I was wrong to say that I have any autistic leanings. Maybe I'm wrong, but my impression was that autism revolves around an insensitivity to what's going on in the world around you. My problems are the opposite--I'm oversensitive to what's going on, but that can overwhelm me and make me "shut down" which sort of looks autistic, when it's really bad. Thoughts? Corrections?
Autism is on a spectrum, a pretty wide one. Oversensitivity to sensory input is certainly something that many people with autism experience, but not everybody. I believe that one of the criteria for diagnosing people with autism is issues with social reciprocity. They have to learn how to "get" humor, for example, and irony, rather than taking figures of speech literally. They have to learn how to follow a flow of conversation, rather than sticking to the subject they're interested in and refusing to move on. They have to learn how to relate emotionally to other people, the give & take of human interaction. Autism is very interesting and complex, and new information is always coming to light about it. Remember Dustin Hoffman in Rain Man? He was playing a man with autism, what used to be called an "idiot savant" because of his ability with numbers, but not much else. We don't use those kinds of labels anymore (thank God!). Maybe you would like to read some of Temple Grandin's work. She has done a lot toward bringing Autism to public consciousness. There was also a film made about her recently starring Claire Danes, which I saw on dvd. I think it is now believed that there is a genetic component to Autism. I wonder whether Genotype diet would have implications for that. Many people with Autism, however, don't want to be "cured" or "normal". It's a complex issue.
What a lot of people are describing as autistic tendencies could be asperger's syndrome. A it can be a mild form of the autism spectrum. One site i looked at had Albert Einstein and Thomas Jefferson as having asperger. My first year in school they figured something was with this guy, but it never led to a diagnoses. Looking back I'am thinking they missed this.
Asperger's Syndrome is on the high functioning end of the spectrum. I've known a few kids with Asperger's. They're usually passionate about a particular subject, like dinosaurs, or weather patterns, and they have a lot of in depth knowledge about that one subject, way beyond what you would expect. They become experts.
They have to learn how to "get" humor, for example, and irony, rather than taking figures of speech literally. They have to learn how to follow a flow of conversation, rather than sticking to the subject they're interested in and refusing to move on. They have to learn how to relate emotionally to other people, the give & take of human interaction. .............Many people with Autism, however, don't want to be "cured" or "normal". It's a complex issue.
My problem regarding humor is the opposite. I see plays on words and puns where nobody else does, and sometimes I burst out laughing in inappropriate times (and have gotten myself some odd looks) because there was something legitimately funny that nobody else got! And sometimes it took so long for me to explain why it was funny that everybody had lost interest in listening. Re: not moving off a subject....That's really embarrassing. I've probably described this before here on the boards, but I remember times when I'd be talking to my sister (when we were teens) and she'd just walk off, which I thought was rude. I'd say something like, "I wasn't done talking." And she'd say something like, "But I was done listening." Now looking back, perhaps she'd given subtle clues that she was getting bored with the conversation and I missed them. DH does it too. He'll throw up his hands and say, "I'm done." "With what?" I ask. "Talking about this." But because I have no concept of time, I guess I didn't realize how long we'd been talking about it. I used to think they were the ones with the problems, but now I'm beginning to think I must be a boring person.
Or maybe I just don't have the right audience.
..............I do want to be cured. If I was in a line of work where I could be my usual self and get paid for it, I'd be fine with it. But in my chosen line of work (being a mommy), it just makes the job extremely difficult.
ISTJ, BTD since 5/05. Battling chronic Lyme disease since ~1985.
"Everything is permissible for me, but not everything is beneficial..." I Corinthians 6:12
Ribbit, I know what you mean about talking beyond what people are interested in hearing. I used to see my friends eyes glaze over before I felt I'd even gotten started. I used to joke with them about it. I thought I must be extremely boring, too! But I think it's really that our minds work in different ways. I've learned to just keep conversation superficial with most people, go with the flow, and not get into anything in depth. I do think people are generally more ADD than ever, maybe because of so much time on the 'net and other media. I especially see this in young people when I substitute teach. They're often impatient and will barely listen to the end of a sentence. It's like they get the gist and want to move on immediately. It seems rude, but I think they get irritable. I, on the other hand, like to savor and really chew a topic until I get everything out of I can. Which is why I read a lot. I love conversing with people at length and in detail, but I rarely meet anyone I can do that with in real life (maybe some college professors, scientists, doctors, psychologists - not that I'm often on their own level of knowledge, but they at least don't mind conversing in detail!). There are people who do run on, though. A woman I know, truly one of the sweetest persons in the world, will talk my ear off without ever taking a break, as long as I sit or stand there and listen. I do zone out after a while because she doesn't stick to a topic, she just rambles on and on. I hope I don't do that, but reading some of my posts here...??? Anyway, I think you are just fine exactly the way you are. ♥ I love that you find humor in things other people don't see. I'll bet you have a wonderful sense of humor, and an original mind.
I think i have some asperger tendencies, but this is not to say i have aspergers. I think with images and sounds that represent certain things to me. Also get to be an "expert" on topics of interest to me. But I feel i tend to be over observant and sensitive. I work with a client intensively who has aspergers, and it can be deceptive and challenging.
His IQ is up in the 140's. But he has great difficulty navigating social situations, is highly distractable, and is unable to truly live 100 percent independant at this point. He literally needed redirecting to mow his entire lawn without getting distracted and lost in thought. Things said are taken very literally. He has great difficulty reading non verbal social hints. Also has difficulty talking about things outside of his own interest, has trouble putting himself outside of himself so to speak. Also uncoordinated physically, which is another sign.
I feel like I work well with him because i have some of his traits, but also have the social skills and empathy intact, which is what really hinders him. Also exercise with him to build coordination. He may be an explorer, he likes to always drive and wander around. But I do too!
Ok, maybe there is some teensy bit of autistic tendency. But first I have to consider that I have bipolar disorder (type 2), and I am definitely a highly sensitive type of person unless I'm on a hypomanic episode. I also have chronic problems with adrenal fatigue. I ALSO have migraines. I mostly get the autistic traits when I'm very tired or stressed out, and I think when I'm having a migraine I seem that way. Not to mention that I also tend to be socially and physically clumsy (no surprise there) during those episodes.
It's probably fair to say that I occasionally look like I have some autistic traits, but there are enough other things going on the explain them--adrenal fatigue, low stress/stimulation tolerance, migraine episodes.
Whatever you want to call it, we Explorers really are the weirdos!
My problem regarding humor is the opposite. I see plays on words and puns where nobody else does, and sometimes I burst out laughing in inappropriate times (and have gotten myself some odd looks) because there was something legitimately funny that nobody else got!
You & me both Babe...(as well as a few others on here eh At least we amuse ourselves & each other...
I couldn't vote because I don't know my secreter status. But I'm an O and always good in math and science and great hand eye cord. I'm an artist. But all english classes, writting espesially, I'm horrible at that. And I flunked spelling every year thru grammer school.