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Goldie
Tuesday, May 25, 2010, 10:15pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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compliant is king.. and I am the queen..  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Goldie, On the prunes I'd say spread them out, not all six at ounce. As that you Spike your sugar.
just my thinking no med. to back that up.


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Deblynn... YOU ARE CORRECT... as are also other fruit needs spreading them out helps...

Its just that the sweetness of the prunes and the 'super' ness of them was such a surprize, in the diabetic book for nonnies .. so I am celebrating them.. for today.. and now I have the confidence to try other fruits.. but I do better with meat and veg..


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Goldie, I hope you are continuing to do well, also Mile High Rob.
I went to a slap up dinner last night which fortunately had a smorgesbord instead of no-choice servings (would not have gone if only the latter).
From the 'board' I was able to choose a hearty meal of turkey, carrots, sushi,green beans, and salad on enormous platters which looked so tempting, and I noticed that most of the guests piled their platters high with everything. I was able to avoid all sorts of meats, potatoes, tomatoes (though there was some tomato in my soup but I turned a blind eye to that), and other nightshades.
Being in a daring mood, I selected watermelon and green melon for dessert as well as a small slice of delectable chocolate slice. I avoided the sweet pavlova (ask an aussie what that is if you don't know) and a myriad of excessively creamed desserts.
And (confession time) I had two glasses of red wine instead of my usual one.
It was a deliberate risk to eat so sumptiously, but guess what?  this morning my blood glucose reading was still in the middle of normal. Need to go for a big walk, or  go dancing today to deal with the calories.
Fun fun fun.



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Hi    hi Jenny..

I am so glad all is well sounds like you had a good time and the wine is ok.. good for you and the choices you made..

I think I am doing great but I will know more when I see the next blood test.. thanks for asking..

at home I manage well .. going out is always on issue.. but overall I am compliant to my foods and I hope that the fruit in the evening is ok for now .. w'll see soon enough..

I want to go dancing.. what do you do for dancing? Ball room or ??


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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I do Scottish country dancing as it happens with a group of somewhat senior citizens many of whom are Scots, and who learnt their craft  a zillion years ago at school.
Last time I went I had a hilarious conversation with an Englishman, now 96, who lost a leg in the Battle of Britain in 1940, and who has danced on a prosthesis ever since; it was very noisy and I couldn't catch all of his story but I think he was known to both Mr Churchhill and King George VI.
Even though many of them are older than me, you can see the finesse in their movements and I am still doing catch up. (late beginner)



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Goldie, I hope you are continuing to do well, also Mile High Rob.
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Thanks for the well wishes Jenny.  It's always nice to see you around here.  

I'm doing exceptionally well.  I just got the results from my latest A1c test yesterday and I'm elated to say I've gone from the High range to Normal range in less than six weeks (5/7/10 - 6/11/10) from total compliance on the Diabetes protocol.  I'm still shooting to take the number down another .9% which I suspect will occur with my next lab.  

I hope you too are well.  Best wishes, my friend!  
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compliant is king.. and I am the queen..  


That is the spirit Goldie!!!  Keep it up!!

and Jenny, it looks like you are dancing that diabetics away!!!  Great supp to include in all our protocols, lead on !!

And MHR!! great progress!!  It is a nice feeling to look forward to those labs knowing that what you are doing assures the positive outcome!!! Great work!! inspiring ...  




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I do Scottish country dancing as it happens with a group of somewhat senior citizens many of whom are Scots, and who learnt their craft  a zillion years ago at school.
Last time I went I had a hilarious conversation with an Englishman, now 96, who lost a leg in the Battle of Britain in 1940, and who has danced on a prosthesis ever since; it was very noisy and I couldn't catch all of his story but I think he was known to both Mr Churchhill and King George VI.
Even though many of them are older than me, you can see the finesse in their movements and I am still doing catch up. (late beginner)


Imagine : Doctors creating a need for senior dance classes for DIABETES PREVENTION>>

Many years ago I use to live in LA area.. actually in Leucadia.. but I went every Wednesday to Thousand Oaks about 50 miles to go dancing with seniors.. I learned to polka, to laugh, to enjoy, and to be with people hidden in their apartments the rest of the time.. I had so much fun ..its part of a happy experience..

for myself I have 2 stiff left legs, but the dancers never seemed to mind it, some loved teaching by doing and I loved participating.. then I was at least 30 years younger then all of them.. .. I think I cant hear the beat and my legs always start in the same way, no matter the tempo.. mom once asked why I always dance only one step when responding to music.. oh well it was maybe the first one I learned or the one my mind memorizes.. but I love dance music and for that matter most music and have it playing all day.. and often dance one step in my own 4 walls..   this is my face when I dance...
  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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And MHR!! great progress!!  It is a nice feeling to look forward to those labs knowing that what you are doing assures the positive outcome!!! Great work!! inspiring ...  

Thanks Cristina!  

Here's the thing:  It's been an easy journey.  It puzzles me when people complain about how difficult it is to remain compliant.  
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Here's the thing:  It's been an easy journey.  It puzzles me when people complain about how difficult it is to remain compliant.  


You have not lived until you are what I had this morning.. I had eaten but I was hungry.. so I ate a lettuce and meat (no bread) wrap.. and was still hungry..

so what is hunger???? I be darned if I know...  but it nags at you until you do something about it..

I am never or seldom thirsty.. but hungry .. I think many times.. not 100% of the time but sometimes .. until I eat 3 meals.. then I can assure you 'compliance' in 'sugar free' and 'carb free' is difficult..

it's not a journey I would wish on my enemies even.. It's in fact good to hear that you have no such issues..my sis does not either..  ( I have them for both of us)   


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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For me eating avoids is simply too excruciating to do.  Certainly makes the journey easier.

Best wishes to you Goldie.  
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...I am never or seldom thirsty.. but hungry ..


Someone told me once, if you know you have eating enough so far, but still feel hungry, then drink water, sometimes the body hides the need for water by giving us the 'hungry feeling'.  Even if you think you have been drinking enough water, try to have a few small sips, without rushing...

That strategy helps me a lot with my hunger spangs, very seldom have them and they are easily quenched with a cup of green tea or plain water ...

You can beat it Goldie!!




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Thanks .. yes drinking is on issue.. I will try and see.. I have found that when I drink in advance of eating I am better of even if I am not thirsty.. and I also found that it takes at least 15 min before I 'feel' the foods i ate -if I did not drink before eating ... intersting how full I can be and still 'fee' hungry.. so clearly the brain centers have not registered the food intake.. drinking before might /does make it easier.. Thanks agian...  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Someone told me once, if you know you have eating enough so far, but still feel hungry, then drink water, sometimes the body hides the need for water by giving us the 'hungry feeling'.  Even if you think you have been drinking enough water, try to have a few small sips, without rushing...

That strategy helps me a lot with my hunger spangs, very seldom have them and they are easily quenched with a cup of green tea or plain water ...

You can beat it Goldie!!

As always, excellent advice Cristina.  
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Checking in on you ladies, Goldie and Jenny.  Haven't seen much of you around the forums lately.  How are your journeys going lately?
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Someone told me once, if you know you have eating enough so far, but still feel hungry, then drink water, sometimes the body hides the need for water by giving us the 'hungry feeling'.  Even if you think you have been drinking enough water, try to have a few small sips, without rushing...

That strategy helps me a lot with my hunger spangs, very seldom have them and they are easily quenched with a cup of green tea or plain water ...

You can beat it Goldie!!


Works for me, and when I get the Fungrys as we call them (want something but don't know what) drink water wait 10-20min then look for something to eat if must.

I was always looking for the here after. (standing in front of refrig. door. "Now what was I Here after?"


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for my self I am having all sorts of company.. going to a party  tonight and brunch every sunday morning.. can't say life is easy food wise....

But in another thread I really was shocked that SUGAR is on AVOID for nonnies..  I mean PLAIN sugar??

I never got that it was an avoid.. that one should not have sweets I understood and knew -but AVOID it is just so unreal.. I just never saw that.. I mean when I gave up all other things on the avoid list, I could have also given sugar up, but here I am eons later and just saw that on foods look up.. ..

other than all that .. thanks for asking..    


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Goldie your experiences help so many,your able to relate and share. My Daddy says we should not spend to much time looking back. Leave it behind and look to the future. (he's 80)


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very wise dad deblynn3!! Life is so much easier when we leave the past behind paying full attention to the now,  so we may have a future to enjoy ...




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Checking in on you ladies, Goldie and Jenny.  Haven't seen much of you around the forums lately.  How are your journeys going lately?

Hi Mile High Rob,thanks for asking...
I'm fine thanks.
It's midwinter here, so the tendency to overeat is always an issue...but after a 6 month break from my weekly meal planner I have gone back to it somewhat in an effort to control portions and frequencies. I realize that if I followed it to the letter I would lose weight effortlessly. I tend to want to use more oil than I should, also more carbohydrate (bread) than I should, and fewer cups of vegetables.
Getting back on track now.
The other thing that I have changed is that I have upped my exercise to 1 hour walking per day instead of half an hour.I have devised about 5 different routes that start and finish at my front door, and many times I can incorporate a spot of shopping or  business en route. Still dancing once a week, and with my new legs I'm dealing with that really well.
The vascular surgeon had told me to commence taking aspirin to thin the blood as a permanent treatment forever (!)  but I have decided not to, and am watching the list of natural blood thinners and making sure that they are on my food shopping list.After all the doc. is dealing in averages, and my diet and way of life must be at the extreme positive side of the bell curve.
Still doing glucose tests several times a day, all going well. Weight is a few kilos higher than I want, so hope by summer I'll be good again. At least I have the legs to go with it now.
Hope you are flourishing.
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Great to hear you are doing so well Jenny!!  All that dancing and walking plus your managing frequent and portion sizes in your menus must be working wonders!!!  Good on you to persist on conquering your issues using your food lists rather than the recommended drugs as suggested by your main stream doc!!!  You are such an inspiration in this forum and an example of reversing the effect of bad genes by pushing out diabetics, keeping it in check!! Thanks for keeping us updated!!  




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Hi Jenny - glad to hear your vascular leg surgery was a success and you're making good usage of your new legs.  I know how passionate you are about your dancing and I'm happy to hear the surgery has allowed you to continue pursuing it.  Winter certainly brings its challenges but you're fortunate to be so intuitive with your body and it's reactions to subtle dietary changes that I'm confident you'll get it sorted out.  

Thanks for your well wishes.  I am doing well.  My glucose monitoring has gone down significantly over the last several weeks.  I continue to do my waking BG monitor along with anytime during the day when I feel it's not optimal as well as times when I add a new food item or stray from my portion sizes or frequency values.  

I've had a couple odd readings but I can usually pinpoint the culprit and nip it in the bud before it becomes a real issue.  I still get a little too worked up when my numbers fall out of the acceptable range or when they rise and drop too quickly but I am constantly reminding myself it's a journey and I've made huge strides in the short time I've been traveling this road.  

Best wishes and please try to pop in more often.  I miss seeing you around these parts.      
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like i have been saying oh "golden one" avoid sugar!!! lol


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