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Jenny
Wednesday, November 19, 2008, 7:23pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I am working within the confines of a Diabetes 2 diagnosis at the moment, and have commenced monitoring my blood with the prick test several times a day. This is very helpful to me as when I am feeling a bit off I can now tell whether it is a low or high blood sugar situation, and act appropriatedly with either food or exercise.
Had an interesting session with an exercise physiologist (physiotherapist) yesterday who took me through all sorts of measurements, and appears to be coming up with a plan which will stir this lazy Warrior into more action eg fast sweaty walking instead of dreamy ambling, and more of it. I need to convert my last remaining 3 extra kilos of fat into muscle as that is the pathway to burning up unwanted blood sugar.
The dietician was helpful in a general educational sense, but I am rather gobsmacked with the low GI food lists which include a number of weirdos such as low fat icecream and So Good soy drink.(contains avoids) I shall probably stick closely with my own GTD/Diabetes book for food advice, and when in doubt about any particular item, do a pre-meal test and 2 hour retest to see how high the reading went with that food. After the initial shock, I am dealing well with the situation, and in fact finding it quite an adventure. It is a help that I feel so well, and have no real symptoms, just negative blood readings.



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Hi Jenny, my father had a beginning of sugar problems with 5 pounds more his ideal weight, but green beams, common mushrooms, cinnamom and buckwheat, soba noodles or kasha can help you to keep a good sugar balance. Helas this year he ate too much sweets and he regained his belly pounds, and he is still diabete safe. I hope this can help you. A multivitamin with chromium  picolinate too could be useful.
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Great, as an A soy is good medicine for blood glucose levels.


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An interesting thing I have noticed a couple of times re blood finger prick testing.............
a low reading upon waking, followed by a fast 30-40 minutes walk can be followed by a higher glucose reading!!! I have worked out a theory why this may be happening, and it seems good to me... I think that after 12 hours of no food, and good rest, virtually all the excess glucose has been processed in my system, leaving  a low reading in the morning, but after some good exercise, some glucose is recovered from adipose tissue and temporarily the blood is dealing with some of that. Any experts like to comment on this?



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Jenny I  know you are so up on all this but have you looked at jerusalem artichoke, which contains inulin?
Inulins role in diabetes might be something to investigate a bit.
Stevia contains inulin.


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Jenny, I believe you are right.  Cortisol is involved in recovering glucose from fat tissue, and cortisol levels are highest in the morning (around and go up when exercising.
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Andrea, no, I've had a blind spot towards artichoke, can't imagine why, but will get some.

Drive 55, thanks for confirming that theory, it backs up my intuition, and makes exercise even more understandable in reducing diabetic issues. Just about to trot out now in the cool morning air.



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Thought this was really interesting!

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/136038.php


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thanks Chloe, that is interesting, although the air pollution part is not apparently relevant to me as in my adult life I have lived 27 years in the country, 8 years on an island, 4 years in an outer suburb of Melbourne, and 1 and 1/2 years in the least industrial city in Australia.
However the following quote caught my eye,
"Every mouse that we exposed to high fat diet, along with exposure to inhaled particulates had marked worsening of diabetes," says Dr. Rajagopalan
This reminds me of a radio broadcast I heard a month or so ago from a U.S. doctor (was it Neil Barnard?) who was speaking of intracellular fat particles preventing the insulin doing their job re glucose, (insulin resistance)and his belief that veganism is the way forward for diabetics.
Of course this is easy for A types, but not much chop for the rest. Another one size fits all, but in my case, possibly appropriate. So I have tended to lessen my animal fats as well as following the BTD diabetes book.



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Jenny, what fats do you eat?

Wondering if ghee is okay or are you just having flax and other oils from plants.


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Ghee is Neutral, allowed frequently in the BTD Diabetes book, and I use it once a week approx.
EVoo I use every day, and flax several times a week. Basically, I just follow the book. Tweaking does not seem to be very necessary for my system, and in the past I used to boast that I could eat literally anything without a problem. ...the bad old days.  Glucose continues to be recovered from fat tissue after exercise according to my tests. It's all good. Only a week to go to judgement day.(3 months test)



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Day of judgement;
Good results on the whole, though my GP insists that I will be diabetic for life. However he says that I have done very well with a big weight reduction, and good glucose tests which show results very close to normal. But he warns me that if I regain the weight, or fail in my dietary resolution, I will be back in trouble-land in no time with likelihood of diabetic complications such as eyesight, heart, circulation etc problems.
I showed him the book that I have used for dietary advice for the past 3 months. (BTD Diabetes). No comment.
So my plan now is to continue with the Diabetes BTD book for another 3 months until the next check up, and if it results in even more improvement I may revert to the GTD book.
A useful hint was that he said that if my fasting (prebreakfast) glucose test is under 8 (Australian units, sorry, no idea what that measurement is elsewhere) and my 2 hourly post meal test is under 10, I am doing very well indeed. I am still hoping for a miracle.



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That's really good news!!! Well done!! Is it still as hot up there and are you getting any of the smoke from the bushfires yet??
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Brava Jenny, kudos from Italy
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My blog yesterday included lab reports from my Type A husband  (63 years old).  He has lowered his blood glucose from 106 to 88 in a year by following the BTD Diabetes book.  It was a hard year for him.  He had moments of rebellion when he went back to his old way of eating for a few days.  But last night he was thrilled with the obvious results, and thrilled too have the threat of another medication gone.  He is committed to staying with the BTD Diabetes plan.


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Jenny, I'm sure you will get relief if you stick to the diet & exercise!
Don't worry if the dr. is skeptical or noncommital. GTD works & it's safe!!!!!

We are concerned about the fires. How is that going?


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Quoted from Mrs T O+
Jenny, I'm sure you will get relief if you stick to the diet & exercise!
Don't worry if the dr. is skeptical or noncommital. GTD works & it's safe!!!!!

We are concerned about the fires. How is that going?

Possum and Mrs TO... there are no fires around Canberra so we are physically unaffected by the fires (and floods) that have ravaged other parts of the country...but many people, including me have family and friends in the worst hit places  and are reeling in the shock of the scale of the disasters. We have certainly not had a summer like this with the height of the temperatures which led to the conflagrations, and sadly makes one question the possibility of living in the shadow of our beloved eucalypts which are so volatile when dry.
The scale of the tragedy puts one's own little problems into perspective and has reinforced for me that love for one's dearest far outweighs problems in the financial sector, loss of money and even of homes, and of health issues.
Thanks to all for your support of my little health situation and I have been grateful to have such a great program to see me through. I must say that the diet, the exercise and the daily blood prick tests have been the backbone of my success.Thank you Peter.




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Useful hint that the physio mentioned to me yesterday was to be careful not to fast too long between meals just to get the blood sugar down (which I am always trying to do).
She mentioned that the body may get the hint that it can get by with a lower level of metabolism which is not what I am aiming at. So I now make up a plate with a meal on it, and then withhold a small portion which I can use as a between meal snack, thus not being tempted into extra snacking over and above what I actually need.Gotta be crafty when dealing with metabolism!



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Quoted from Jenny
Useful hint that the physio mentioned to me yesterday was to be careful not to fast too long between meals just to get the blood sugar down (which I am always trying to do).
She mentioned that the body may get the hint that it can get by with a lower level of metabolism which is not what I am aiming at. So I now make up a plate with a meal on it, and then withhold a small portion which I can use as a between meal snack, thus not being tempted into extra snacking over and above what I actually need.Gotta be crafty when dealing with metabolism!


I'm glad to read you are dealing with this so craftily, as you put it! And winning too from the sound of things.  


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I want to encourage those of you who are dealing with diabetes, or who have relatives that you are caring for, that with determination you can deal with it. I've seen a second doctor as I felt that my regular GP was being rather deterministic and dour about my future, but the second one has reassured me that I am doing fantastically well, having lost so much weight that I now feel like a fashion model (apart from the varicose veins), and getting my blood sugar levels down to virtually normal levels. But nevertheless, he agrees that I basically have this condition for life, and can never let up on my fantastic regime of eating less and exercising more. I especially prefer to eat small dinners because I find that overnight the processing of blood sugars is very slow. During the mornings when I am most active I can often go quite low, and can tell when this is happening by the wooziness in my head. It is fixed very quickly by the quick administration of a snack.
It has made all the difference to me to have access to prick testing several times a day, even though some professionals find that too obsessive.It has been a great help to know that I have friends here who will listen to my needs and experiences with such open hearts.Thanks to all.
My doctor says he wishes all his patients were like me! I am so motivated, and loving my life so much that I could not bear to give it away just for the sake of some donuts and cream cakes. (sigh!) By the way, I have only had one piece of cake in eight months and even that was socially motivated. I am thinking of going back to GTD after 8 months on the Diabetes book.Maybe it is time that my genes were polished up.



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You're an inspiration. Good on you, Jen!


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grapefruit pectin works well for those issues, I've several different kinds of bloodtypes and in all I obtained good results  


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I 've just read this (below), Jenny. I had no idea about the dementia connection.

"Type 2 diabetes is the diabetes that comes on in adulthood and is
actually much more complex than many doctors think; and since the most obvious manifestation is that your blood sugar goes up, there's a temptation to get the blood sugar under serious control.

The trouble is that the more aggressively you keep a lid on your sugar with drugs, the more likely you are to over-shoot and have a low sugar hypoglycaemia which can cause collapse and maybe increase the chances of dementia, which are already known to be raised in people with diabetes.

A recent study followed over 16,000 people with type 2 diabetes to see what happened to those who'd had hypos bad enough to need hospital treatment.

They found that one or more severe episodes of hypoglycaemia were associated with a significantly increased risk of developing dementia.
Now it's possible that the reduced memory and thinking ability made these people bad at looking after themselves, but it looked as though the hypos preceded the dementia. It's also possible the problem relates to the severity of the diabetes causing little strokes but the researchers didn't think so.

It just reinforces the recommendations in Australia, which are that if you have type 2 diabetes what you need is exercise, weight loss, cholesterol and blood pressure treatment and reasonable, but not perfect sugar control."

For Reference

Title: Journal of the American Medical Association
Author: Whitmer RA et al. Hypoglycaemia episodes and risk of dementia in older patients with type 2 diabetes mellitus.
URL: http://jama.ama-assn.org/
JAMA 2009;301:1565-1572


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Thans a lot Eh I needed this info !
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thanks for that info Eh (alarming though it is). I have decided to see the best endocrinologist available for further analysis of my situation. I am on the most minimal of drugs, and am sorely tempted to cut even that out, and will certainly ask for advice on that as soon as I see the specialist. Will report back in a month or so.



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