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Jayneeo, Yes you did! I kept remeasuring myself at home with different things, measuring tape, wooden ruler, and my rings were the slightest bit longer. When I visited my mom, whom I think I really have a lot of physical things in common, plus our blood types, I measured her as a hunter also. But, as I said, maybe I was a hunter all these years, but having my thyroid zapped, plus lots of caffeine/adrenal burnout, my metabolism is not fast any more......so I think I am sort of more a gatherer. It almost doesn't matter as the diets are quite similar, except for the veggies that protect against thyroid/goitrogens, etc. Also the lower fat of the gatherer plan is good, more fish, etc.
I had a hair analysis, and the report said I had lowered thyroid/adrenal output.....the diet recommended was a lot like the gatherer plan....so I have enough evidence I think to follow between the gtd and btd I think......
I love barley and bought some last night - I am going to test...
I am mostly happy that I have not had coffee for about 1.5 weeks - I was never able to give up before and this is the most amazing thing for plus I dont think about chocolate. I actually just feel like eating vegetarian at the moment and bought some butterbeans and canneloni beans, but I have been eating lamb/beef/turkey but just not as much as before. I am eating lots of spinach and celery and nuts/seeds and I've made my own cerial with millet and ricebran with flaked almonds and dried fruits - I am enjoying blacktea/green tea Power Chai that I used to love before but this time with ricemilk. I kind of completley forget about eating but then when I do think about food I feel really excited. I need to drink more water though. I nearly got a triple ginseng tea yesterday but wanted to take one step at a time and got the power chai instead for now and will get the other in a few days.
I was Cave Woman. I left the boards early this year because I was getting so frustrated with my limits on the O nonnie Rh- diet. It was so hard to follow, I was cranky and had horrid cravings. I had the Genotype book, but didn't even read it. I was tired of limits. So I've eaten as I pleased for many months. It reaffirmed much of what I learned on the BTD, and let me get myself a bit fatter with more aches and swelling. So I finally picked up the Genotype book and found, very much to my surprise, that I am a Gatherer! I absolutely love the food list! I never felt this way about the O nonnie list.
So here I am with a new name and a new enthusiasm. I look forward to reading the posts of the last months to see what you all have learned and shared in this new twist to our shared adventure.
Cheers to all!
Was CaveWoman My new name reflects my joy and surprise at being a Gatherer
Concealed Carry Gatherer! SWAMI Explorer Blend Kyosha Nim
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Welcome, GW! I guess if one has trouble keeping the diet, they could avoid the worst things & see how that goes. Sometimes it seems so overwhelming, people give up. Like if you are an O, give up wheat, corn, & dairy, but enjoy other fruits & veggies. I am pretty compliant, but find that 'heavier' foods like starches, proteins, & fats give worse reactions that fruits & veggies. So, all you folks out there: Don't give up on everything. Try to do the major things if you can't do the whole diet!! S S & L, Mrs "T" O+
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Drive 55, The world's scrawniest Gatherer!! On behalf of a newly tested Gatherer, what are the best and quickest weight gain foods within the strict guidelines of GTD? My friend measures up as a Gatherer, but has been off sugar for decades, and has several intolerance factors, and could never be described as chubby, in fact the opposite. For instance, do you use more permissable oils and fruits for instance? And how many times a week do you use meat protein?
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Location: ''eternal spring'' Cuernavaca - Mex.
it s all in your book...... make her a list.
''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98 DNA mt/Haplo H; Y-chrom/J2(M172);ESTJ The harder you are on yourself, the easier life will be on you!
I buy it, but it is like paneer. cottage cheese is also a diamond, but I don't do so well on it...a B might do well on it. I can have it in small doses.
What happens if you have more than a small dose? I bought some to try cos I was getting sick of having no dairy at all and thought it would be better than indulging in butter... But not sure if its what has caused the slight weight gain or what...
There are two types of farmers cheese that I have found. One is like paneer, where it's a crumble cheese, not a melting cheese. Then I've found some (usually from overseas) that melts. It actually tastes more like muenster. I prefer it. I mean, what's the point of cheese if it doesn't stretch when heated?
ISTJ, BTD since 5/05. Battling chronic Lyme disease since ~1985.
"Everything is permissible for me, but not everything is beneficial..." I Corinthians 6:12
SWAMI O+ Gatherer, Healing from Fibromyalgia Kyosha Nim Columnists and Bloggers
Location: New York
Is there room for one more?
I've been mostly following the Gatherer food list for about two weeks, slowly easing away from the O nonnie diet, finishing up what was already in my house before making an abrupt change.
I've had exactly two "black dots" in the past week (1/4-1/2 cup of carrots in a bowl of turkey soup, and some coconut oil on homemade challah baked with rice bran). Other than that, I've mostly been eating beneficials and diamonds, with a few neutrals. I haven't been so good about portion sizes though. I'm careful to only have 2-3 servings per day of fruits and grains, and I'm aiming to eat 4-5 cups of veggies a day, but I'm not really keeping tabs on protein foods or oils. I probably eat more of both than Dr. D. recomends. I am trying to have fish more often, but I'll probably always eat more eggs and larger portions of meat/fish/poultry than "recomended."
I'm already feeling trimmer. I'm still dealing with some TOM bloating, so the scale doesn't reflect any changes and my skirts still feel tight, but I can tell that my belly is less flabby and wiggly now. The huge lump of fat in the middle isn't quite as big as it was before. Looking in the mirror, I can't see the differences yet, but I can definitely feel that my belly is firmer (maybe less jiggly is more accurate at this point.) My son says my tummy feels like challah dough.
Ruth, Single Mother to 22 yo O- Leah , 20 yo O- Hannah,and 15 yo B+ Jack
Gatherer - Keep on Genotyping! Spring: Growth, Peace.
Hello all! Another Gatherer here, on my second year. I was first measured as a Hunter, which is how I was eating anyway for btd for 12 yrs. It was okay, nothing exciting.
Then I got to listening to everyone and remeasured my fingers (my dh measured the first time) and then I was a Gatherer. Yippee!! I love Gatherer foods, they really feel right. I dropped 12 lbs without trying. I'm trying for 5 more but those silly black dot foods keep getting in my way.
But then I started comparing my dh, me and my mom, we're all O's but are 3 different types of people, so I thought one of us is an explorer, so I did the explorer diamonds only for three days straight and was so sick. Back to Gatherer I go and I love it. Here's my favorite recipe: Mix cooked ground beef, canned spinach, red peppers, celery and picante sauce, roll up inside spelt tortilla and deep fry in approved oil, salt the outside. Yum!
Is there a Gatherer website? Would love to know. Thanks!
Beth - Type O+ Sec Gatherer dh=H, mil=W, fil=G, mom=E