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Ribbit
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Alright, ladies.

In the past, at that time of month, it wouldn't be unusual for me to have bad cramps, feel a little nauseated, and feel like I was running a fever (hot then cold flashes). It was never pre MS but during MS, so to speak.

Nursing babies a lot has kept me from having periods except one or two, and then I'd get pregnant again.  

This is the first one I've had since being on the GTD and it's terrible.  I'm wondering if maybe my sudden 5 lb weight gain last week is tied in with this.  I feel extremely nauseated, and I've nearly had to run to the bathroom a couple of times because I thought I was seriously going to throw up.  I've had hot and cold flashes all day and it's driving me nuts.  At least the cramping isn't as bad as it once was.

I'd hoped the GTD would help with this, not make it worse.  I had hot tea and hot soup all day and that's made me feel better.  I even ate chocolate and it helped.  

What's going on?  What do I do?  Why is it worse than it used to be?  I know the first couple of cycles, once I start back when the baby is 13-17 months old, are strange and irregular.....but this is unreal.  Is it hormones making me feel nauseated?


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Have you tried the iodine spot test?  
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Why would iodine help this?  I'd be willing to try it again.  I used to do it, but the spot never stayed on my skin--evidently I never got enough.

About midnight last night I started having boiled egg burps.  I haven't eaten eggs in months!  Then I started feeling even more nauseated and feverish.  So about 2:30 I finally got up and all the lentil soup I'd eaten at supper came back up with great force.  My fever was only 99.2.  I've been drinking water and Emergen-C, but I'm afraid to eat anything. DH stayed home from work to take care of the children.  I finally dragged myself out of bed.  My fever's gone now, but I still feel awful.  I don't know if this is related to the monthly cycles starting back or not.


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pregnant perhaps?


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Well, if that's the case I'm miscarrying.  I'll take a pregnancy test in the morning to make sure--all those hormones will still be there if I am.  

I think perhaps I just have two things at once.  Either food poisoning, a stomach virus, or something similar, on top of re-cycling.  lol


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Ribbit, perhaps you're just getting sick and it has nothing to do with your period.  Another take could be that it's part of the detox you have been going through recently.  I have heard many stories of women who when they are detoxing have had a really different period than normal or that their symptoms were intensified.  I hope you feel better soon. {hugs}


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Thanks, Caz.

Well, my fever's back and I'm nauseated again.  I ate some lunch about 2, but nothing before or since. We may have another rough night before us.  DH just said he thinks he's catching what I have.   "Really?"  I laughed.  "Well, the nausea part anyway," he said.  So far the children seem fine.


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Now the older two have "D".  Well!  At least that answers one question--we're just sick.


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It could be a virus.  My youngest son was ill on Monday with vomiting, fever, and body aches; and an elderly lady that we know had similar symptoms. Perhaps it blew your way.  No fun,huh?!


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For not every food is good for everyone, nor is everything suited to every taste.



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Well, if that's the case I'm miscarrying.  I'll take a pregnancy test in the morning to make sure--all those hormones will still be there if I am.  

I think perhaps I just have two things at once.  Either food poisoning, a stomach virus, or something similar, on top of re-cycling.  lol


Ribbit, your mention of food poisoning caught my eye...Have you eaten any fruit this
past week?  Melons?  Grapes? Watermelon?  Reason I'm asking is this....

...My sister lives in Athens, Ga...(maybe 90 miles out of Atlanta) Her husband just had a
horrendous bout of food poisoning this past week...wound up in the ER...THe only food my
brother in law ate that my sister didn't was fruit...canteloupe, honeydew, watermelon and
grapes...

Given you live in Georgia, I thought I'd mention that when my sister called the
Department of Health, who told her the Agriculture Dept. handles food poisoning, she
found out that there's been a major outbreak of food poisoning related to people eating
imported fruit.

The only reason this didn't appear to be a virus is that the symptoms came on suddenly in the middle of the night, 6 hours after my brother in law had dinner...and he felt better within 24 hours.  My sister didn't get sick.

PS...the fruit was purchased at Kroger's supermarket in Athens.


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My son thought he had food poisoning also.  He got sick not long after eating chicken salad at a grocery store where he works.  I'll have to ask him if he ate any of the foods you mentioned, Chloe.  He does handle produce, though, because that is his job on certain days. Interesting!


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For not every food is good for everyone, nor is everything suited to every taste.



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Ah, who knows?  I'd like to buy local, but $3 a lb for organic apples locally vs. $2.19 a lb for organic apples grown in S. America....as much as I believe in supporting American economy, right now I need to save $$$.  Yeah, I've been eating fruit and salad and all sorts of things.  Nothing out of the ordinary, though.  We'll see if the others come down with it.  I guess it could be anything.  I slept almost the entire day today.  DH and I are about to start a movie (love Netflix).  We probably won't watch the whole thing tonight seeing as it's 8:40.

You begin to wander, with the day-to-day grind, if your family really likes you anymore or just tolerates you.  Being sick has reminded me that my family does indeed love me.  Late this morning Ethan came walking in the bedroom and said, "Mama, can I rub your back so you will feel better?"  I melted.  "Of course you can, sweety!"  And then he spent all day with DH and I hardly saw him.  So tonight Daddy put the children in bed.  Ethan got up three times in 30 min to "poo-poo more" (yes, I think this must be catching).  Then the last time he got up he came in to me and said, "Mama, will you come sit on my bed and hug me and kiss me?"  

Okay, I'm still loved.


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Forgot to mention, my brother in law had salmonella...It's common in foods other than fruit.
Where these your symptoms?

http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/health_advice/facts/salmonella.htm

Good to feel loved, Ribbit!  Your family sounds so sweet....(like you, of course!)


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I felt like I've been fighting something this week too.  In my stomach.  But my symptoms are not nearly as bad as yours.  Plus I take Olive Leaf Extract every day.  That's supposed to kill alot of things fairly well.


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Hope you feel better quickly!

Why I asked about iodine is if this had been PMS instead of illness/food poisoning...

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Yeah, I forgot to say that too.  I hope you all get better soon.  And it is nice to know you're kids love you.  I'm one of those that tell my kids all the time and they in turn do it back.  It's a wonderful feeling!!!!!!!  I even get back massages once in a while.  I have a feeling it may not last, but it sure would be nice if they stayed like this into the teenage years.  So I guess we have to enjoy it while it lasts!!!!!!


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Well, I came from a family that didn't say "I love you" much. My mother tried, but we were all resistant for some reason. So I made that a change in my own family.  We say it all the time.  But it's easy to say sometimes.....I know what you mean, feeling like it might not last.   But don't fear....just enjoy building those relationships.  And when they get older and establish independence, they will draw on this closeness.

I do feel better today.  I'm still not eating much.

I took a pregnancy test and it was negative.  Rules that out.

Vicki, is what you're saying is PMS can be made worse by iodine deficiency?


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Well, I came from a family that didn't say "I love you" much. My mother tried, but we were all resistant for some reason. So I made that a change in my own family.  We say it all the time.  But it's easy to say sometimes.....I know what you mean, feeling like it might not last.   But don't fear....just enjoy building those relationships.  And when they get older and establish independence, they will draw on this closeness.

I do feel better today.  I'm still not eating much.

I took a pregnancy test and it was negative.  Rules that out.

Vicki, is what you're saying is PMS can be made worse by iodine deficiency?



PMS can be helped by Evening Primrose oil....a diamond for Warriors.

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Ribbit,

Yes.  

Here's an article on the subject:  http://www.qfac.com/articles/august/iodine.html

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Sounds like I need to eat more kelp.  I put some in the beans I cooked the other day for the rest of the family.  When the beans were done I took the kelp out and ate the whole sheet on top of some black-eye peas.  It was delicious.  My body said, "You needed that."


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Sounds like I need to eat more kelp.  I put some in the beans I cooked the other day for the rest of the family.  When the beans were done I took the kelp out and ate the whole sheet on top of some black-eye peas.  It was delicious.  My body said, "You needed that."

This thread has reminded me that I detox more when I make sure that my iodine levels are adequate.  If I miss a couple of days of iodine patches, I start to feel "draggy" and when I "patch" again, I'll get a burst of detox...  Usually indicated by more "flavor" in my mouth when I wake up in the morning or odor during the day...(mixed blessing)   I usually do much larger than the recommended patches - usually 4x6 inch on each thigh - almost daily...  This is the only way I can maintain adequate levels at the moment...



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Spirulina is one of the recommended Warrior foods.  
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