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Dianet52
Saturday, October 4, 2008, 3:01am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Hi All, I have a question about Hunters diet. The GTD says butter is a superfood. But we are not allowed to have milk, cream or any cheeses (except a few). I tried out the free week trial of GT website and someone said that "kefir" was allowed.
Ingredients in Kefir are:pasterized lowfat milk, pasterized nonfat milk, and lots and lots of friendly bacteria great for our gut. The ingredients in butter are: Pasterized sweet cream (milk), salt.
My question is why would butter be allowed but not kefir or other cheesesand not milk. I guess im starting to have doubts. Enlighten me if anyone would be so kind. Thx!
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Saturday, October 4, 2008, 4:23am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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butter and more so, ghee, contains butyric acid, which is very healing to the gut....while milks have lactose, casein, which are indigestible to most blood types...(except B's)
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You're right, according to the food list, kefir is neutral for Hunters.  I sure don't understand it.  Kefir is very similar to yogurt, which is toxic for Hunters.  


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Lloyd posted this in another thread:

"Kefir is similar to yogurt but is actually a different culture. That is likely the difference, in that the microorganisms in kefir are either better for us, modify the milk differently or a combination of the two."


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Lola
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as for gatherers, kefir and yoghurt are toxins, whereas paneer and other are not.

I have stuck with the home made paneer, but haven t ventured into the cottage cheese or ricotta realm.

the paneer I make contains milk and lemon juice, and has no whey at all.

whey seems to be the culprit in these classifications, I think.


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Lloyd
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Dianet,

For Hunters the key to dairy is butyrate. Every superfood has a butyrate concentration at about the same level as ghee. Butter and the selected cheeses have minimal nonfat components. It is the nonfat components of milk that are troublesome to us, although kefir has some other benefit and buffalo milk would appear to have less issue with the nonfat components.

Lola,

It looks to me as though tyrosine content is a critical factor in Gatherer dairy choices. The selected dairy foods are all high in tyrosine but lower in fat (except ghee which has no nonfat component) and the meat/poultry/fish selections also lean that way.

Hope that helps.
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non the less, the gatherer sups have other important components to help jump start our system.

tyrosine is present in catechol and the protein shakes however.


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Regarding the Gatherer dairy, I was interested to note that monterey jack cheese is neutral.  Also, what is it about whey that is problematic?  It's not even good for Nomads!
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Quoted from Lloyd
For Hunters the key to dairy is butyrate. Every superfood has a butyrate concentration at about the same level as ghee.


forgive me, I don't have my book here.......
when you say "every superfood", are you referring to every dairy superfood or all superfoods?



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Lola
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dairy SF!


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Quoted from Lola
dairy SF!


as I suspected   but did want to clarify. thanks.



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