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Harry O
Thursday, October 2, 2008, 10:58pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Hi Everyone i hope this is the proper forum to ask.

Has Dr.D or others on here ever talked about people who thrive in the sun both physically and mentally as being closely related to a certain Geno Type. I'm thinking more so for Hunters and Gatherers Geno Types as they've probably been exposed to the Sun more often over the thousands of years over the other Geno Types and may have Genes that express to that for health benefits besides Vitamin-D.

Any thoughts on this ??
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if there is any link I would bet it was the O nonnie, since there are some mood issues here...
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My ancestors come from western Europe.  We have some dark hair and dark skin in the family on my dad's side, but everybody for generations back on my mom's side are blue-eyed, blond or red headed.  I guess we don't need a whole lot of sun to get the job done, as is indicated by the fair skin.  That being said, I believe I require more sun than some because I get depressed during the winter.


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Its a great question.
I like to get some sun everyday if possible as it improves my mood and general feeling of well being.   But Im a prime candidate for skin cancer.    So Im kind of torn...
I'll be interested to see what others think...


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Apparently drinking regular green tea has properties in it that protect or fortify us in some way from the suns burn?

Ahh tea, so many mysteries!

"A legend in India describes the story of Prince Siddhartha Gautama, the founder of Buddhism, who tore off his eyelids in frustration at his inability to stay awake during meditation while journeying through China. A tea plant is said to have sprouted from the spot where his eyelids fell, providing him with the ability to stay awake, meditate, and reach enlightenment."

I am a sun lover, I am fair, blue eyed, and get far more depressed in winter &/or without sunshine daily for at least 30 mins in the morning or afternoon.
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I, like Honeybee, love the sun and get depressed when the weather is grey.  Winter is NOT my favourite time, I am really enjoying the start of Spring    The Autumn and Winter just gone, I would sit outside for 30-60mins around 10am in the morning when there was sun and I felt SOOOO much better for it.  My Hubby ended up buying me a little outdoor table so I could have my morning tea out there because it was helping me with my depression.  I am a Gatherer.


The first thing I do every morning when I get up is open all my blinds to let in as much sunlight as possible.  If I could design and build my own house one day it would have lots of big, floor to ceiling windows - yeah!

I am lucky because I have dark hair and light olive skin so do not burn too easily.  I think morning sun is the nicest anyway and it's probably the safest too!


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The first thing I do every morning when I get up is open all my blinds to let in as much sunlight as possible.

Me too. I then sit on my balcony and drink a cup of tea (herbal or green). I also go for a walk on the beach at least 4 out of 7 days. I moved to the 'Sunshine State' (= Queensland), because the weather here is much better than Victoria where I used to live.

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I beat SAD (Seasonal Affective Disorder) last year in three ways, all of which I will repeat this winter:

1. I forced myself to go outside and sit in the sun for at least an hour a day (I rarely had the energy to move).

2. I bumped the temperature in the house up a couple of degrees so I wasn't freezing (yeah, it costs more, but at least I wasn't miserable).

3.  I ate all the carbs I wanted.  I had worried about gaining too much weight, but I only gained a couple.  It was no big deal.  But for some reason eating carbs is what I need during the winter.

And last winter I didn't have the depression I've had in previous years.


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Thanks for all the interesting replies everyone.

I only do the Blood Type diet so i do not know my Geno Type but i was researching why some people like my mom and i thrive in the sunshine and we tan dark very easily where others like my dad and sister hate it and burn instead of tanning.

Got me to thinking that possibly my mom and i come from a Gene Pool that has been exposed to the sun for 1,000's of generations and produce the P-53 Gene that is responsible for tanning and skin cancer protection where as those who do not tan but burn do not either have it or express this Gene so wouldn't the Hunter or Gatherers Geno types also carry those Genes over the other Geno Types possibly.

So i wonder if Dr. D has ever figured this P-53 Gene or peoples ability to tan or not into his Hunter and Gatherer and all the other Geno Types as i know he's done alot of Epigenome/Gene Studies into these diets.

It would be interesting if we ever did a poll on who tans and who burns in the sun and what is your Geno Type as i'd guess after all this that i'm a Hunter or Gatherer because i'm not only Type o but i carry or express the P-53 ''Sun'' Genes.

I hope this made sense to all and thanks again !!

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Since I've been on the GTD I've tanned better.  I don't wear sunscreen at all, so I know there's been a difference.  Instead of turning bright red, now I just get a little darker.  Or if it does turn red it's only that way for a day and then it turns tan.  In the past I would get a terrible burn, then it would peel off and I'd be white again.  Maybe my P-53 genes are expressing themselves better thanks to the Warrior diet.


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Quoted from Ribbit
Since I've been on the GTD I've tanned better.  I don't wear sunscreen at all, so I know there's been a difference.  Instead of turning bright red, now I just get a little darker.  Or if it does turn red it's only that way for a day and then it turns tan.  In the past I would get a terrible burn, then it would peel off and I'd be white again.  Maybe my P-53 genes are expressing themselves better thanks to the Warrior diet.


I had the same experience as Ribbit,


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That's pretty amazing Ribbit and Maldo.  Won't it be interesting in years to come to see just how the GTD has changed peoples bodies and lives.

Harry, if you were to do a poll I would vote as follows:

Type A Teacher husband - Dark hair, pale skin, burns easily, has had a melanoma removed, hates the heat, loves the cool.

Type A Teacher daughter - exactly as above but no melanomas.

Type O Gatherer me - Dark hair, light olive skin, tans reasonably well, hates the cold, likes the heat.

Type O daughter (not sure but think maybe a Hunter) - Medium hair, the rest the same as me.

Not sure if your theory would work out for everyone but it does in our household!


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Quoted from Ribbit
Since I've been on the GTD I've tanned better.  I don't wear sunscreen at all, so I know there's been a difference.  Instead of turning bright red, now I just get a little darker.  Or if it does turn red it's only that way for a day and then it turns tan.  In the past I would get a terrible burn, then it would peel off and I'd be white again.  Maybe my P-53 genes are expressing themselves better thanks to the Warrior diet.


Interesting take on that Ribbit and also Maldo. Learning about the Epigenome and how it interacts with our food and enviroment is really interesting to say the least.
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Thankyou for posting the links lola.....as i see he has researched it.
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Type O Gatherer me - Dark hair, light olive skin, tans reasonably well, hates the cold, likes the heat.


Not sure if your theory would work out for everyone but it does in our household!


Hey Caz...your desription of yourself is exactly of my mom and i. Its embarrassing sometimes as my left arm exposed to the driver side window is really tanned dark from the sun and my right arm is lighter so i look two toned...lol..We also are tall and thin boned as i thought reading descriptions on here that long legs and arms are Hunters??

Interesting to learn all this !!

harry.

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Thank you for posting the link for me lola !

I must be a hunter as i'm Type-O and tall and thin as i thrive on intense exercise as i feel great when i lift weights or do hiit sprints on an exercise bike as i feel the endorphins flow like i'm ''High'' and if i don't my adrenalin gets way out of wack as i'll have anxiety and nervous issues and suffer from insomnia and crave sweets etc.. Also i have inflammatory and auto immune issues (years of junk food) as hunters are proned to those. I thought i was reading about myself reading the Hunter Profile that Dr. D presented on that link ..lol..

Thanks again lola as im gonna print that out and post it to my fridge.


Can i ask a diet question about Hunters? Can they have apples? Since i'm a type-O Nonnie apples are an avoid but they are my favorite fruit as i really miss them but if i can't have them then that's o.k. but i'm just curious. If they are an allowed food for Hunters should i still avoid them since i'm an O Nonnie.

Thankyou !!
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apples are black dots for hunters, meaning ok after a period of resetting your genes.

I believe you do not have a weight problem, so your resetting might be brief.

I suggest you read the book, do the measurements according to the guidelines and use the strength test in the book.
you can also use the free trial at the GTD site, and get much more ideas and tips.

here are videos on how to measure correctly
http://www.youtube.com/user/GenoTypeDiet


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My father is northern European. I have his skin, but I tan because my mother was southern Italian and her skin was olive.  When I was younger, my skin didn't burn easily but it took a long time to tan. I think I was beta carotene deficient because I don't like carrots that much. When I take capsule form of beta carotene, which I do in the summer months, I tan super fast.

I've had migraines since I was 7 years old. My first migraine started from getting too much sun. So I'm not a big, lay out in the sun for 3 hours to get a tan person. If I'm out a lot I'll wear natural sunscreen on my burn areas, nose, shoulders, neck. The whole sunscreen thing is not the way humans were supposed to be. I read people who don't go out in the sun have a higher risk of CA because the body needs sun light for certain important chemical processes in the body to commence. So we women will have less sun spots but an increase in CA?

So, I as a Warrior, don't get tons of sun but I fare well if I'm out a lot and get used to it. I build up a tan and of course the fresh air along with it is conducive to good health.  

So Ribbit, you sat out in the snow for an hour a day? You do get snow down there right? Or, were you sitting on your porch?  Can get the same affect sitting in a window with good sunshine coming in.
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My Hubby ended up buying me a little outdoor table so I could have my morning tea out there because it was helping me with my depression.


  
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Sun exposure is the best way to get the vitamin D that our bodies require.  Lighter skin people store up the summers vitamin D supply for the winter.  Darker skin people living in northern climates may need supplementation to survive the winter healthier.

Neither my son nor I burn in the summer unless we lie in the sun all day on the beach for several days.  We dont use sun block on a daily basis only a low rating at the beach.  When I was a teenager I used to put baby oil all over my body while at the beach.  Our skin is medium European Caucasian type.

My ex-husband had Irish blood in him.  His hair was almost black where mine is dark blond to light brown.  But his skin was lighter than mine.  On our honeymoon he wanted to keep up with his new bride at the beach.  We had to find an emergency clinic for all his boils and blisters.  I was a nice pleasant tan, not even red.


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My mother, brother, and I; Hunters, love, need the sun and tan easily. We have light olive skin.

My father and sister; gatherers, do not love, need the sun or tan easily, they actually burn a little. They have fairer skin.

This summer I have gotten several complements on my good colour I have been 99% compliant on GTD.

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So Ribbit, you sat out in the snow for an hour a day? You do get snow down there right? Or, were you sitting on your porch?  Can get the same affect sitting in a window with good sunshine coming in.


No, we're lucky to get more than one little snow per year.  It's certainly cold enough, but it's just rare.  I wouldn't mind the cold if there was actually snow to play in, but 33 degrees and rainy for 3 solid days isn't my idea of a fun time.  I get grumpy, to put it nicely.

Can you get vitamin D through the window?


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