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honeybee
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welcome to the scrawny B gatherer clan Drive    tho, I think I am finally filling out in some spots-not allot but I sure I have gained a few ..will have to check one day, must be the mac oil and pecans?  

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Drive, good for you that you found the right fit! Which of your measurements were tricky..?

In our local scene, almost all of the O Nonnies are scrawy gatherers. Squirrel will attest to this, although scrawny may not be the exact word used for the women. Willowy comes to mind


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Yes.  Willowy.  Slim.  Slender.  Tawny.  There are better words for a scrawny lady.

Well, I know I posted this before on the GTD testimonials thread, but Elizabeth has responded beautifully to the Explorer diet.  Honey doesn't give her red eye circles anymore.  That's really exciting to me.  SHe can't wait to try cheese again, but I'm making her stay very compliant for at least a few weeks' stretch before I try anything like dairy again.  She ate her brother's pancake last week without realizing it had eggs in it and only had a mild reaction---that's an improvement!!!

She misses things like strawberries, and every once in a while I forget and give her a fruit she shouldn't have, but overall this is going pretty well.  We discovered that cherrimoya tastes like bananas.  We have a new song we sing.  It's to the tune of "What Do You Do With a Drunken Sailor?" except it's "What Do You Do With a Cherrimoya?" because when I first bought one I hadn't a clue.  I still don't have a clue.  I run it through the juicer with other odds and ends and she drinks it.  I'm wondering if I can use it in place of bananas in banana bread.


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welcome to the scrawny B gatherer clan Drive    tho, I think I am finally filling out in some spots-not allot but I sure I have gone from 60kg to at least 62..will have to check one day, must be the mac oil and pecans?  

I haven't seen any significant change or filling out.  I'd been seeing 132 on the scale for a while, now it's right on 130.  Are you filling out in the right places?

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Drive, good for you that you found the right fit! Which of your measurements were tricky..?

Fingers, for sure.

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Willowy comes to mind

Yes, willowy is good.

I wonder if I'll see my body temperature increase now.  Last night it was 97.2.

Ribbit, I don't think I've even seen a cherimoya!  Did you find them at WF?  They are good for me too, and heaven knows we Gatherers have few fruits available to us.
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Nope, no chlorophyll, but I am taking chlorella.

I had beaten it nearly into submission at the end of June (after a 3-week low-carb stint), but then I went on the Nomad diet, and all the sugary fruits and rice have resurrected it.  The good news is, on the Gatherer diet, my tongue is quickly clearing up again.


Maybe garden of life fungal defense would help?

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Ribbit, I don't think I've even seen a cherimoya!  Did you find them at WF?  They are good for me too, and heaven knows we Gatherers have few fruits available to us.


Same with the poor Explorers.  I found it along with guava at the international farmer's market.  I also got 100% (no sugar) pomegranet juice for her.


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Oh, maybe I have seen those at WF.  They do look familiar.  I probably noticed the price and promptly forgot about them.
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Drive, your fingers were the changers???


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I too went off those summery-fruits this winter..I cooked up apricots in winter and ate with ricotta and cocoa powder drizzled with maple and cinnamon- tell her to get into this, very satisfying winter fruit.

ps.Nuts toasted up make a great addition to any baked or stewed fruit


Oh, there's not much better than apricots!  Dear daughter doesn't care for them, and I cannot understand this perspective.  

Turkish apricots are my favorite dessert, just one or two a day.



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Thanks Lola for that link.....have only now just realised that we call them custard apples!  
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glad it helped!


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oh, apricots! and my cancerian son canned a bunch of them off his tree this summer...!!!! With farmer's cheese!! mmm.
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Thanks Lola for that link.....have only now just realised that we call them custard apples!  


A-ha! solved for me too now.
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Wow, Lola.  It says you should peel them because the peeling can cause numbness.  I peeled Elizabeth's just because it seemed the best thing to do--I'm glad I did!


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Nope, no chlorophyll, but I am taking chlorella.

I had beaten it nearly into submission at the end of June (after a 3-week low-carb stint), but then I went on the Nomad diet, and all the sugary fruits and rice have resurrected it.  The good news is, on the Gatherer diet, my tongue is quickly clearing up again.

I have to say something good about the Nomad diet, though: believing I was a Nomad got me to go gluten-free back in January, and now, FINALLY, I can eat eggs again!   I just ate them again last Saturday, Sunday, and yesterday with no ill effects.  It has been a few months since I tried them.  I guess my gut is nearly healed!  I think I will reintroduce small amounts of SF gluten foods later on, such as Ezekiel bread or barley.

The Gatherer diet is doing something.  The sugar cravings are tapering off, and the less-sweet things on my diet like grapefruit are tasting better.  I am starting to get things done again (i.e. motivation and energy).


Drive once I asked if when you started BTD did you do a 'detox liver protocols' ???? to clean all avoids from your ice cream and fast food that you ate for many years
You can feel the health change sooner with detox supp.



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I read in an earlier post on this thread that a gatherer should eat 1/2 cup of millet twice a day.  How does one cook millet?


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the cherimoya
we cut it in half and scoop out the inside with a spoon like you would a sapote or a mamey.....like pudding!

millet, I soak it overnight, drain it and add fresh water, put it to boil, like rice.


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Here is how I cook millet:

Pour 1 Cup dry millet into a wire mesh strainer and rinse well under cold running water.  Drain for a few minutes, shaking to speed things up.

Heat a skillet to medium low.  Add the rinsed millet and stir with a narrow spatula.  Keep stirring until water has evaporated and milled starts to make little popping sounds.  Keep stirring until grain begins to emit a slightly nutty, roasted smell.  Remove from heat before the color darkens.

Add roasted millet to a saucepan which has 3 1/4 to 3 1/2 Cups Water and salt to taste (1/2 tsp or so).  Cover with a tight-fitting lid.  

Bring to just under a boil, reduce heat to simmer and let cook for 20 minutes.  

Shut heat and let pot sit undisturbed for at least 15 more minutes.  Don't remove the lid at any point during the cooking or steeping.

This is more water than I would use to cook rice, but to my taste, millet is better when cooked soft.  The grains can be crunchy if less water is used.



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the cherimoya
we cut it in half and scoop out the inside with a spoon like you would a sapote or a mamey.....like pudding!

millet, I soak it overnight, drain it and add fresh water, put it to boil, like rice.


Lola, when you soak it, do you keep refrigerated or just anywhere?

Also, what amount of water do you use with a cup of millet if it has been soaked?  Seems like you wouldn't need as much, but I don't know.


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I leave it on the counter......

I cook it as I do rice......I have no exact measurements.....


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Drive once I asked if when you started BTD did you do a 'detox liver protocols' ???? to clean all avoids from your ice cream and fast food that you ate for many years
You can feel the health change sooner with detox supp.

I am taking milk thistle, but nothing else particularly targeted at the liver.

I find millet a bit strong and alkaline tasting to me.  I just cooked it like rice, and it was too mushy.  Does this roasting mellow the taste?
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sapote or a mamey



Never seen those.  Do they have English translations, or would that be their names at a market here?  Do you know, Lola?


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mamey_sapote
that s the one on the gatherer list


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I find millet a bit strong and alkaline tasting to me.  I just cooked it like rice, and it was too mushy.  Does this roasting mellow the taste?


It should not be mushy, only soft and fluffy.  It sounds like there was a little too much water, or maybe it was not cooked long enough.  You should be able to fluff it up with a spoon after it has set for it's 15 to 20 minutes with the lid still on, after it has cooked.  If it is mushy and heavy, some more experimenting is in order.  A good quality sea salt is pretty important for flavor also.

I think roasting makes all the difference, but I'm the only person I know who goes to the trouble.  Oh, I think Accidental Chef dry-roasts all her grains.  I even roast basmati rice.

By the way, millet is the most alkaline of all the grains!



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