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BA1984
Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 6:57am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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how do you know which one is more appropriate for you? I'm confused. i know one is btd and other other one bt is only a factor.

can someone please clarify for me?
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the test is on the blog dated 25th Jan. That should guide you..


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BTD: Align you to genes.
GTD: Align genes to you.

Blood type diet aligns us to our genes.

Genotype diet allows us to begin to alter our genetic tendencies.


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Victoria
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You can begin with either, and make improvements in your overall health.  

BTD will help you to deal with the body you have. It will help you deal with health problems and shorten illness, and manage (possibly curing diseases).

GTD is more powerful, when it comes to affecting your genetic predisposition to diseases, in that it actually shifts the balance in your favor.  You may actually be able to bypass diseases that you have inherited the weakness for.

I found a longer adjustment period when I switched to the GTD 9 months ago, than I did when I switched to the BTD 9 years ago.  But once I made the adjustment, the changes in my health for the better were absolutely dramatic!



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BA1984
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I did the test, and it said that I should go towards GTD, not 100% but by over 50% than BTD, so I'll see how the GTD goes.
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on another note, how come GTD is supposed to be better for weightloss than BTD? is there a way to combin it all together?
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In my case, GT1 has given my thrifty metabolism a jump start, with the addition of a selected variety of specific low glycemic grains and one important addition of dairy in the form of paneer, which makes my body finally let go of stored fat, it didn t want to let go of, in the past!

this is what I believe happens to most GTs following their guidelines, and thus the reason for the pound shedding.

The body doesn t feel deprived and lets go more easily.

Decide which system you want to follow and stick with it for a certain time, giving your body a chance to reset itself.


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BA1984
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i'll have to go back and compare the ERYT diabetes to GTD. How do others combine their diets? or do they just go to one or the other?
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try this approach....
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Genotype trumps the BTD.  This was in response to a question about trying to combine both diets, and could a person eat genotype toxins if they were blood type beneficials.  His answer seemed to be that you could eat blood type avoids that were genotype superfoods, but you should not eat genotype toxins just because they were blood type beneficials.  This is
if you are trying to follow both diets.


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When I was following the BTD, I would eat exclusively from one or another of the Health Series books, if I was working on a specific condition at any given time.  Otherwise, I stayed with the lists in LR4YT.

After being on the GTD, I seem to be just staying with it, because it is working so well for me.  But if I had some life-threatening disease and wanted to work with the corresponding book, I would probably choose foods from that book that are either superfoods or at least neutral on my GTD.  

But for me, the real power comes in sticking mostly with the Diamonds and Superfoods, with Neutral used to fill in the variety.  Too much of the neutral foods will water down the progress.  I feel that way about the BTD also.  If a person really wants to stay with the BTD, the real power is in the Beneficials, and the Neutrals are just for variety.

It's best to not jump back and forth any more than necessary, or we risk not getting the benefits of any of the programs.



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When I was on the BTD, following the beneficials in LR4T, my tastes were moving more toward the GTD...  I didn't know it until the book coame out, but once I read the book and determined my Genotype, the diet I had progressed to was almost spot on...  Since being on the GTD since January, I have been healing much faster and can eat a very restricted diet without craving toxin foods.  I rarely eat anything other than Superfoods and am really satisfied.  

I can't exercise as much as recommended and need to rest quite a bit due to the detox / healing, but I expect that to change as I get healthier...


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BA1984
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I've had a couple of days of GTD, and it does feel a bit better, but I don't feel like I can exercise a lot. I think theres a bit of cleansing, like you all say.
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I tried the gatherer diet for about 6 or 7 months.  I just about had to live on Correctol!  When I decided to return to the O-Nonnie way of eating, I no longer need any laxative.  That speaks tons by itself.  It would seem that my intestines work better on the O Nonnie diet.  I did not dislike the GTD, and I do worry a little that maybe I will get some dread disease because I am not eating for a Gatherer, but we can't predict the future.  I surely am helping my body prepare for aging by following the BTD.


Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again.  Blessings, meribelle
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BA, if you already know your GT, why not add it to your signature line or under your shield?

that would make it easier to help you out.

meribelle, individuality is key here.....
I had the exact opposite effect following GT2.
It feels so right and my gut is the happiest!


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That is what concerns me about the Gatherer diet--so many of my staple veggies are off limits now!  I was very regular on the Nomad diet, but maybe that was just because of all the sugary fruits, the sugar being sort of a stimulant.
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Quoted from Lola
BA, if you already know your GT, why not add it to your signature line or under your shield?

that would make it easier to help you out.

meribelle, individuality is key here.....
I had the exact opposite effect following GT2.
It feels so right and my gut is the happiest!


I don't know how
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That is what concerns me about the Gatherer diet--so many of my staple veggies are off limits now!  I was very regular on the Nomad diet, but maybe that was just because of all the sugary fruits, the sugar being sort of a stimulant.


It can be challenging to adapt to the Gatherer diet in the beginning since so many of the commonly eaten foods are not included in it.  But I have seen that it is one which brings stunning results, once you find a way to work with it.  

I have noticed my daughter changing the way she used to approach foods.  For example, she used to start the day with a big fruit smoothie, as I do.  Now her smoothie contains nothing sweet.  It contains homemade almond milk (We believe that homemade is acceptable, since there are no toxins in it), a big helping of freshly ground chia seeds and flax seeds, lecithin, ARA6, a squirt of Proberry liquid and a little chlorella.  She blends this until it is creamy and thick and has come to love it.  There is some protein and a good source of fiber.  



Normal day, let me be aware of the treasure you are.
Let me not pass you by in quest
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BA1984,
in member center left margin, you can choose where you want to add a signature or whatever changes you want to do to your avatar settings.
make sure you hit the save button when you are done.

here are some visual changes to guide you
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-ref/m-1219018887/


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I didn't realize how much I crave sugar I was until I started the Gatherer diet.  I was getting my sugar from honey, fruit, and fruit juice, all of which are "healthy" sources, but it was sugar nonetheless.  I need to remember that advice to eat protein when craving carbs!
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I didn't realize how much I crave sugar I was until I started the Gatherer diet.  I was getting my sugar from honey, fruit, and fruit juice, all of which are "healthy" sources, but it was sugar nonetheless.  I need to remember that advice to eat protein when craving carbs!


Craving sugar may be a sign of candida wanting to be fed.  So, it would seem like an indication that the Gatherer diet could be better for you.
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Craving sugar may be a sign of candida wanting to be fed.  So, it would seem like an indication that the Gatherer diet could be better for you.

Very true.  And there's no doubt about the candida; it's on my tongue!
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  Still?  Are you taking chlorophyll?


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Nope, no chlorophyll, but I am taking chlorella.

I had beaten it nearly into submission at the end of June (after a 3-week low-carb stint), but then I went on the Nomad diet, and all the sugary fruits and rice have resurrected it.  The good news is, on the Gatherer diet, my tongue is quickly clearing up again.

I have to say something good about the Nomad diet, though: believing I was a Nomad got me to go gluten-free back in January, and now, FINALLY, I can eat eggs again!   I just ate them again last Saturday, Sunday, and yesterday with no ill effects.  It has been a few months since I tried them.  I guess my gut is nearly healed!  I think I will reintroduce small amounts of SF gluten foods later on, such as Ezekiel bread or barley.

The Gatherer diet is doing something.  The sugar cravings are tapering off, and the less-sweet things on my diet like grapefruit are tasting better.  I am starting to get things done again (i.e. motivation and energy).
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Craving sugar may be a sign of candida wanting to be fed.  So, it would seem like an indication that the Gatherer diet could be better for you.
Interesting. My husband has strong cravings for sweets of the avoid kind that don't seem to be going away on the Gatherer diet. I don't know much about candida. What other signs could there be? I know there is a huge candida thread here somewhere, think I'll go dig it up and read through.



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