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cts
Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 4:19am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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I am sorry if this was already addressed in this forum, but does Dr. D ever recommend a person following a blood type diet versus a genotype diet and if so, under what circumstances please? Thanks!
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Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 4:21am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 5:08pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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thanks so much for that fast reply, lola! i thought i also saw somehwere on the 4yourtype website that has a listing of ailments and based on the ailment it says genotype or bloodtype. did you ever see such a thing? that quiz was very helpful! i was just wondering if he ever breaks it down for what is better helped with what. thanks!
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Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 7:44pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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i am so torn about this issue because my blood type diet is so so different from my genotype diet. some ppl's diets are similiar but mine are very different.

is one diet more for short term healing while the other is more lifelong?

i would love to hear feedback from others on which diet they choose and why. thanks so much!

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Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 8:50pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I think that the GTD targets genetic issues which may include weight.....
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The difference as Dr. D put it is:
BTD - aligns you to your genes.
GTD - aligns your genes to you...

With your age, assuming you have no health problems I would say GTD is much better. It will prevent you from developing any illness.

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Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 10:00pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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if someone has health issues, is the blood type diet better?

here is my concern, if i do the genotype diet, it has a lot of beneficial foods that are avoids for my blood type because they cause lectins. so if i am not in great health, will i be harming myself by the genotype diet because i am eating foods that create lectins in me?

thanks!
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any system you choose to follow will definitely be a far better option than your past food choices, before finding out about BTD or GTD.

considering your age, anyone you choose will be a great starting point.....
you might also need more testing, like secretor status and subtype, perhaps, to determine your true GT, maybe not.

check the difference in food values, if you happened to be a non secretor.....

it is all fine, and there s no need for panic.


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I think I remember Dr. D once saying that Genotype trumps the BTD.  This was in response to a question about trying to combine both diets, and could a person eat genotype toxins if they were blood type beneficials.  His answer seemed to be that you could eat blood type avoids that were genotype superfoods, but you should not eat genotype toxins just because they were blood type beneficials.  This is if you are trying to follow both diets.

Either diet is complete and effective if you follow just one of them, and no need to worry about if any food is bad on the other diet.  Each one is a complete system.



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Thursday, September 11, 2008, 3:27am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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victoria, that is so helpful! i had been wondering that!
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cts, you could try each diet for a while (e.g. a month or so) and see how you feel.

For me, the genotype diet (I am a gatherer) made me feel worse. The BTD diet makes me feel good. But there are lots of people on this forum who are following the genotype diet with great results.

Your body will let you know what is good for you or not.
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Thursday, September 11, 2008, 4:32am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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curious, that is so interesting! were you sure that you were a gatherer? also, did you have any acute heath issues? i got the impression that acute issues do better with btd and the gtd is more for preventative for healthy ppl (i could be wrong but that is what i thought).
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I feel, better to begin with BTD and then change to GTD if necessary .....and the most important is to get your secretor status done.....


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curious, that is so interesting! were you sure that you were a gatherer? also, did you have any acute heath issues? i got the impression that acute issues do better with btd and the gtd is more for preventative for healthy ppl (i could be wrong but that is what i thought).

Cts, yes I am sure that I am a gatherer. Yes, I had some acute health issues, namely a severely sore back and sciatica. I found that with gtd my backpain/sciatica got worse. My backpain is now almost gone (thanks to an intensive 2-week rehabilitation program at a local hospital) and I follow btd to about 70/80% because my body seems to like it (the other 20/30% are things like buckwheat, cauliflower, vanilla, cinnamon which are avoids as an O-non-secretor but which seem to be fine for my body).
I think it is important to try different foods and to see how your body reacts to them.

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Quoted from 3811
i got the impression that acute issues do better with btd and the gtd is more for preventative for healthy ppl (i could be wrong but that is what i thought).


When I switched to the GTD, I had a rough two or three months, while my body adapted to eating foods that had not touched for 9 years on the BTD.  However, the beneficial changes were remarkable after that.  And it was not just in a preventative way.  I have been getting healthier and healthier, even in ways that I didn't know I was imbalanced.  

I don't think the genotype diet can be judged unless a few months are endured.  Of course, there are some people who slip right into it and love it immediately.

But I loved the BTD also, and highly recommend it to anyone.  It is much easier to type the blood than to do all the measurements, etc.  So the important thing is to choose one and try for a high level of compliance.  Dr. D is so brilliant and he has done the work with integrity.  Either program will improve the state of the world.



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Quoted from Victoria
I think I remember Dr. D once saying that Genotype trumps the BTD.  This was in response to a question about trying to combine both diets, and could a person eat genotype toxins if they were blood type beneficials.  His answer seemed to be that you could eat blood type avoids that were genotype superfoods, but you should not eat genotype toxins just because they were blood type beneficials.  This is if you are trying to follow both diets.

Either diet is complete and effective if you follow just one of them, and no need to worry about if any food is bad on the other diet.  Each one is a complete system.


So this would be a good approach to use when using any of the health series books right?  

I was thinking of going a little stronger toward the arthritis book for my osteoarthritis but feeling confused with the Hunter list versus the Arthritis BTD list.  

I think this rule, will this will help that process.  Actually I think in the end this just takes you back to eating the GTD way, right  
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If you are using a health series book, it would seem the reason for using it would trump GTD. Just my 2 cents.
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If you are using a health series book, it would seem the reason for using it would trump GTD. Just my 2 cents.
I agree with that! Except for maybe the 'Aging' book, which is what I was following before switching to GTD. I did carry over some of the superfoods from the Aging diet to the GTD diet and bumped them up in status from black dot foods to superfoods. Seems to have worked out fine.



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Quoted from Victoria
I think I remember Dr. D once saying that Genotype trumps the BTD.  This was in response to a question about trying to combine both diets, and could a person eat genotype toxins if they were blood type beneficials.  His answer seemed to be that you could eat blood type avoids that were genotype superfoods, but you should not eat genotype toxins just because they were blood type beneficials.  This is if you are trying to follow both diets.


Teri, i have been doing the same as you but this post from Victoria has made me change.

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Teri, i have been doing the same as you but this post from Victoria has made me change.

Guess I don't consider some of the black dot GT foods as toxic for a B Explorer as for another BT Explorer, for example, based on the Aging book, especially when all consumed is organic. That's how I look at it anyway. I may be completely wrong, but it makes sense to me. That's where SWAMI would help. Would be great if SWAMI differentiated between organic and non-organic foods, especially for Explorers. But for now, I don't consume any Explorer avoids or any BT Aging avoids.


I'm onto you, 'euphoria'
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I think it depends on your specific health conditions.  If you are in fair shape with no serious health concerns, or with only weight as your concern, I'd say GTD all the way.  Other problems may change that.  GTD is focused more on long-term health than BTD.  I'm sure many foods are good for some things and bad for others, so you need to decide what's most important and make food choices accordingly.

I mentioned this in another thread, but it's a good example.  I have had low back pain for years, and BTD eliminated the pain and tenderness that my chiropractor couldn't get rid of.  Going on GTD has brought some of that back.  My gut feeling is that the dairy choices are the culprit for me, so I'm now experimenting with going back to the B-nonnie dairy list instead of the Nomad dairy list, but staying on GTD for everything else.  This is where SWAMI comes in, too, customizing the diet based on your individual needs.  I guess I'm just trying to be my own swami!
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I guess I'm just trying to be my own swami!
Exactly!



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My understanding is that one has to do GTD for 3-6 months without the toxins or black dots to correct any gene damage. We have to trust Dr. D. There is no way to know to what extent our genes are damaged. After 3-6 months one can include black dots and observe the effects.

For this reason I understand that no black dots are allowed in the first 3-6 months regardless of health conditions when starting or whether they were HB BTD.

I would say SWAMY will give us more precision on the first 3-6 months and thereafter.

My understanding. Could be completely wrong.

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If you are using a health series book, it would seem the reason for using it would trump GTD. Just my 2 cents.


Or, you can go to the D'Adamo Clinic like I did and get an individual SWAMI done by the docs and that trumps everything..   Dr. D gave me a combo of some BTD and some GTD foods..I'm still a nearly vegetarian though..
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my swami results are nearly  kiff-kiff 100% BTD recommendations on  my own bloodtype but then I was *called* to be a warrior....
ha..haa..haaaa...perhaps getting first out of those thingies which akes us unsure..... I feel merely that I'm swiftin between warrior and nomade but
feel muchmore torn to the nomade diet ...

thats'swhy I am on my own suppafoods called A2B nonniefood (lists) and yessss even call me *being fixed or nailed onto* I agree, here I feel well with


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