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funkymuse
Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 9:59am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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I have eaten almonds all my life... sometimes in great quantity and never had a problem.

I ate some almonds I had picked up at the store a couple days ago that were in one of those bins where you bag them up and had a handful with my dinner on Monday night the 25th.

I noticed my tummy felt off and I was very tired and achy all over.  Didn't think about any possible nut connection.

Then yesterday, Tues the 26th at noon, I had a handful with my lunch.

That afternoon, about an hour later, I felt like I was coming down with the flu.  Aching all over, runny  nose, tight throat, and my tummy hurt, etc.

Before bed I had a bout of diarrhea and then now at 2 am I had another and my tummy and body are hurting.

I looked up Nut/Mold Allergies and found the following but I really think it was from a possible mold on the nuts from sitting around in those bins or in the back of the store in storage - is that something anyone knows anything about?  I mean like I said, I have never had allergy symptoms to nuts other than peanuts and I figured that was because I'm an O and they have bad lectins.

I underlined the symptoms I encountered.
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Nut Allergy Symptoms

Immediate onset allergic reactions to nuts can start as quite minor, for example a runny nose, a skin rash all over the body, or tingling tongue. Symptoms may stay the same but they may also become worse with multiple exposures. You may experience difficulty in breathing swelling of the throat or other parts of the body, dizziness or unconsciousness. This can lead to anaphylactic shock, a very serious condition.

Other symptoms you may encounter include hives, tightness of the throat, a hoarse voice, nausea, vomiting, abdominal pain, diarrhea, and lightheadedness.

Keep in mind that although there is a lot of public attention around the fatal effective nuts, not everybody experiences the fatal allergic reaction to these foods.

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The 2nd question would be, if not the mold or old bad nuts, can a person become allergic to a particular food at a certain time in their life out of the blue?

Any experience or knowledge about this would be helpful.  

Thank you all.
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FM, I dont have a diagnostic answer for you. But we Hunters have a reactionary system. Inflammation is our middle name. I have experienced what you describe, without rhyme or reason. Pineapple juice takes care of it. And eating compliantly as clean a food as possible.

Feel better soon!


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The 2nd question would be, if not the mold or old bad nuts, can a person become allergic to a particular food at a certain time in their life out of the blue?....


In my experience, many people do develop new allergies in their 40's.

I think your instincts are telling you that something was wrong with this particular batch of almonds. I say listen to your instincts. This may well be a reaction to something on the almonds, not the almonds themselves.



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Wow!  I hope you figure it out.  Let us know.[[hugs]]


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The 2nd question would be, if not the mold or old bad nuts, can a person become allergic to a particular food at a certain time in their life out of the blue?


I've always heard the answer to this question is...... yes. tho IMHO, it is because people on the SAD diet are constantly bombarding themselves w/ no-no's.  their 'cup' can only take so much before it 'runneth over'. In this case w/ you.........I suspect the nuts.
Hope you're feeling better soon girl!!  



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I'm better today but my body was so jacked up all night.  After I wrote this thread, I went down with a hot pad and tried to sleep. Body was so tight and hurting all over, I had to take Ibuprofen - I'm currently out of my While Willow/Valerine mixture.  (sigh).  

Just the stupid thing my stomach needed on top of everything else what those darn ibuprofen's.  I only take those in extreme emergencies.  

Anyway... thanks so much all for your comments and support.  I have some organic almonds that came in the mail and I'll do a test run with those soon... and we will just see!  If those others were bad, I'm taking um back!  Now I'm scared to eat the pecans I also bought from the same store.  

P.S.  this is the good thing about being clean and having a real compliant diet - is that anything that affects one adversely acts up immediately!

P.P.S.. And wow.. thanks for the pineapple juice recommendation.. I had no idea!
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Our allergies often change(or accumulate) as we get older.
I notice I have a slight reaction to nuts. I wish I could eat more as I overeat meat & like to have meatless days. I'm still working on a schedule. As an O who seems to thrive on lots of meat, I think beans once a week is a good change & I was hoping for a nut day. Well, maybe I'm nuts!
Maybe you need to wash the nuts & let them dry before you eat them. Also store them in the refrigerator. You should take the nuts back to the store you got them from. Maybe the people there would be glad you caught their 'mistake' & don't want others to get sick, too.
Remember the beans that were mislabeled. The guy at Whole Foods was very nice about it. I don't know what he did with the rest of the navy beans in great northern cans, but I'm not buying that brand for a while(too bad as it is organic!).

With all the lawsuits around, the store will be glad you pointed out their 'error.' Take the other nuts back. We consumers need to be more assertive in a nice way!
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I ate some almonds I had picked up at the store a couple days ago that were in one of those bins where you bag them up and had a handful with my dinner on Monday night the 25th.


Well, I've been told not to buy out of those bulk bins. They could be harboring bacteria..salmonella, ecoli (off people's hands)  People especially kids, stick there hands in there. It could also have been a bad batch of almonds. Try buying Planter's almonds in the jar and see if you have the same reaction.
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You can toast them to kill some of the mold, and see if that helps.  I wouldn't eat the nuts from that bulk bin again though, there could have been another food in there before them, so it's hard to know what exactly it was you ate.

But, yes, you can develop a new allergy out of the blue.  It usually is to something you've eaten all your life, and in great quantities.  I never developed an allergy to something I didn't, at one point, love eating.

I picked up a Rosemary allergy just a couple years ago.  So be careful when you try almonds again, and just have one or two.  When I suspected my pistachio allergy as a teen, I tested it by rubbing one on my lip, and my lip swelled up.  Probably not a wise thing to do, in case the allergy had been more severe and the swelling had spread, but better than eating one.  Allergists don't carry pistachio serum (or whatever you call it) so I'm still not sure how severe it is.  I know I can survive accidentally eating one or two, with a bit of benadryl, but I don't run into them very often.


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... They could be harboring bacteria..salmonella, ecoli (off people's hands)
Mayflowers brings up a good point. Could this be the problem?



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Well, I've been told not to buy out of those bulk bins. They could be harboring bacteria..salmonella, ecoli (off people's hands)  People especially kids, stick there hands in there..


yes, ewwwwwwwww, I stopped buying out of the bins some time ago because of this issue.             I do still buy almonds from the bins 'above' tho, because you can't stick your hands in those. You pull a lever, with your bag beneath it, and they fall into the bag. no contamination except for the workers, but that's going to be anywhere you buy them.

glad to hear you're feeling better today funkymuse.



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I always cook anything out of the bins.  I toast the nuts for about 5 minutes.

And I do wonder about soaking things like flour for hours, even if it will be cooked.  Seems like bacteria could just multiply that way.

There aren't really any options to the bins for many organic foods.
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Sometimes shelled nuts have been sprayed with a mold inhibitor...a chemical.  And it could
be the chemical you reacted to.

Before you make the assumption that it was the nuts and couldn't possibly be another food, what else did you eat for lunch?  Or even breakfast that day?


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try soaking your nuts overnight, always, in lemon water, rinse next day.....

also best to have a handful of any not per day, not more.


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Two issues that do not seem to have come up in this thread:

1) A number of people have found that to digest nuts they need to soak them overnight first.

2) At this time of year the nuts in the bins are most likely last years crop. Unless special care has been taken in the storage of the nuts we can pretty much guarantee that they have gone bad. The oils in the nuts will have gone rancid and other components will have also begun to detiorate after sitting around for a year or so.


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yeah, soaking as I also mentioned above is something to always take into consideration.


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Quoted from Chloe
Sometimes shelled nuts have been sprayed with a mold inhibitor...a chemical.  And it could
be the chemical you reacted to.

Before you make the assumption that it was the nuts and couldn't possibly be another food, what else did you eat for lunch?  Or even breakfast that day?


Hey Chloe.. the connection was made because the previous day I had a few for dinner and had a very upset tummy all night.  Didn't connect it at that time.  Then the next day at lunch I had them again and in approx. an hour after eating them, the full blown flu symptoms began.  

The rest of my food was completely compliant.  I've been very good these days as it fits in with my abstinence plan.  Plus I hadn't eaten almonds in over a month.  Everything else was a regular occurance in my eating plan.  That was the only 'odd food out.'  
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I also think mold might be the culprit.  Try a different brand out of a can and see if it happens again (when you don't have anything important going on that day or the next).


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I also think mold might be the culprit.  Try a different brand out of a can and see if it happens again (when you don't have anything important going on that day or the next).


Hey Ribbit.. like I mentioned earlier, I'm going to try these organics (in a sealed bag), that I purchased from Oh Nuts.

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