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suzedgar
Friday, August 15, 2008, 3:36pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Hello all,

I am a real worrier by nature - can get a lot of anxiety. I don't really want to take any medication. I am wondering if the Genotype diet really does work for a Hunter to cure this?
I guess the biggest issue I still have is that I haven't given up my one (quite small) cup of coffee yet.  Would this really make the difference?  Zoloft seems to work so well for me but it makes me gain weight and I really don't want to take chemicals.
I am on catechol adn all the other Hunter supplements and still I obssessively worry.  I exercise at least 4 to 5 times a week.

Any tips would be great!  Thanks so much
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Ditching the coffee should help. You may be interested in trying magnolia bark instead of Zoloft, although I believe it is in one of the Hunter supps.
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Quoted from suzedgar
Hello all,

I am a real worrier by nature - can get a lot of anxiety. I don't really want to take any medication. I am wondering if the Genotype diet really does work for a Hunter to cure this?
I guess the biggest issue I still have is that I haven't given up my one (quite small) cup of coffee yet.  Would this really make the difference?  Zoloft seems to work so well for me but it makes me gain weight and I really don't want to take chemicals.
I am on catechol adn all the other Hunter supplements and still I obssessively worry.  I exercise at least 4 to 5 times a week.

Any tips would be great!  Thanks so much


This is Holy Basil...http://www.organicindiausa.com/product_info.php?products_id=34

It helps me feel very balanced. Not sure if it's good for a Hunter, but it's a great herb for me.



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Quoted from Chloe


This is Holy Basil...http://www.organicindiausa.com/product_info.php?products_id=34

It helps me feel very balanced. Not sure if it's good for a Hunter, but it's a great herb for me.



Another excellent choice, also in Hunter supps.

Not in the supps but helpful are Lemon Balm (Melissa) and Chamomille.
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suzedgar
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Just remembered I am out of Magnolia - will order some more. i think Holy Basil is in one of the supps I take
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I don't do any caffeine except for whatever is in "decaffeinated" green tea and the piece of chocolate I eat once or twice a month.  

Caffeine can give you the jitters.  And if you're already that way naturally, it's probably not going to help.  I'm kind of a laid back person, but can worry too.  I'm kind of like the extremes.  And anything to help me not be the other extreme is good.  My doctor gave me these homeopath drops that seem to help and some calming lotion for my stomach.  I don't worry about alot of things but when I started getting health problems, my anxiety kicked in pretty good.  The only other time is if my wife has gone somewhere, and not back when she said, and her phone isn't on, I start to worry about her.  I have to really try to not picture her abducted by bad guys or something worse.  Those seem to be my two weak spots.  

Also, if you're not totally up to snuff, you could be low in some things like Seretonin, which actually help you not worry.  Seems to me like the worse you feel, the easier it is to have anxiety and it's a viscous cycle.  You'll have physical, and emotional things stacking up and it's a downward spiral.


Anyways, I hope you can overcome it, and feel better.  I can relate and believe me, you're not alone.


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Suzedgar,

Why not give the hunter diet a few weeks try.  The diet may balance you and give you energy so that you might be able to give up that one cup of coffee a bit easier a few weeks into the diet.  

I was like this for exercise.  Had no energy to exercise and did absolutely no exercise the first 3 weeks into the hunter diet.  Then I started to have some surplus energy (which for me is unheard of) and began to exercise almost every day.  

So why not use the hunter diet as a springboard, a way to feel better and then tackle the coffee issue.  

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I am absolutely convinced that my seratonin levels are too low. I suffer from Insomnia as well a little. Melatonin seems to really help. I wonder if the Magnolia improves one's seratonin levels.
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I suffer from Insomnia as well a little.


The Methyl B12 is an answer here.

While your serotonin may be low it is more likely that it's low dopamine and clearing adrenaline/cortisol. Exercise is great on both counts.

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Interesting Lloyd. I will get some Methyl B12. Do I take that in the evening?
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Interesting Lloyd. I will get some Methyl B12. Do I take that in the evening?


Yes. Just before bed. (It's an O thing that way.)

Since things work together this may also help in other areas as well. Eventually you will get 'caught up' and can stop use or use less frequently. Should be able to stop the melatonin as well, I was sleeping better with no melatonin using the Methyl B12 than with melatonin from the first night. Valerian is also useful should you need something to relax, BTW.



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I personally found that too much dopamine gave me great anxiety and fear at night!  We eat alot of grass fed beef and I exercise so I actually get enough dopamine.  I found that out because I tried to supplement with something that raises dopamine and got double anxiety!  So I found that serotonin was my issue.  I started taking 5Htp but found out that's not really good for O's and Hunters because of what's it's made from.  My NP said to take pure Tryptophan.

So I'm going to try that.  The 5Htp was making me calm and balanced during the day along with almost 100% compliance to the Hunter way of eating.  

Good luck... it's a hunt and peck thing for each of us but Dr. D gives us the path and the bread crumbs to follow... hee!  
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This isn't precisely in line with the current direction of the conversation, but it's relevant to the topic.  I have a friend who's bipolar with terrible anxiety and tendencies toward paranoia.  He's a type O, and he measured out as an Explorer.  He has been partially complaint, and just eliminating most of the wheat and corn from his diet has made a tremendous difference in his anxiety levels.

I really need to give him a call, haven't talked with him in a few weeks now.  Maybe he will have some more good news to share!
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I am a real worrier by nature - can get a lot of anxiety.


Hi,
  I found that caffeine and sugar, even if drinking a lot of fruit juice can trigger anxiety. If you can get off sugar and caffeine, along with wheat you should see a marked improvement. You also need to learn how to relax and let go of stress. There is a great relaxation tape from Attacking Anxiety.

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