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pixelland
Monday, August 11, 2008, 12:40pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Here's the question.....  

I just typed my boyfriend as a Teacher, but several things don't "fit"...   I had thought he was a Hunter, but we just did his blood type with the home kit and learned he is A-. The intermediate calculater gives us just one option: Teacher. (The Rh- is not the norm for Teachers, but possible).

Most of the information fits, except for the immune system aspect. He never had ear infections or struggled with other types of communicable illnesses, but he has terrible problems with allergies. This doesn't fit with the normal profile information.

He has been habitually consuming large quantities of beef over the years, so that may have his immune system out of kilter. It seems that he would also struggle with colds, etc., if that were the case. He is also a work-out fiend. Ex-military, he does a heavy weight routine MWF, and on TTh does a 2 hour bike ride plus a 1 hour run.

Any ideas? Any other Teachers out there with allergy problems?

Thanks!


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I had major allergy problems most of my life.  Never had ear infections, but I sure had sinus ones!  Lots of inhalant triggers, and lots of food ones.  Less of a problem as an adult, and hardly a problem at all since btd/gtd.  Now I notice when I get a bit stuffed up, and usually know right away what it was from.  

I think there was another thread about this very topic a while back, if you do a search it might still be around.


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pixelland
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Thanks, Gumby!... I'll do a search this evening...

His "allergies" didn't bother him enough to seek treatment until he was in his late 30's. Tests showed no specific triggers, which makes the diagnosis more of a "sensitivity" issue than true allergies.

Trying to get him to give up beef may be hard... He can eat very large quantities at one meal. Like, a pound or more!!!  
With his workout routine, it's hard to feed him enough. He's always hungry!



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I had thought he was a Hunter, but we just did his blood type with the home kit and learned he is A-. The intermediate calculater gives us just one option: Teacher.


Might want to confirm that he is not an explorer using the advanced calculators on page 290 of the book. You may not know secretor status, but you may not need it. If you did all the measurements for the Intermediate and know the Rh factor, the advanced calculator is very easy to do.


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pixelland
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Thanks, C_sharp...

The Advanced Calc also only returns one choice for men, regardless of secretor status....  I am rather confident with all the measurements, and much of the profile does seem to fit.

I think he is just a Teacher that is WAY out of balance. He consumes volumes of meat, mostly toxic ones. He does like fish, which helps. He eats half his meals with me, and the rest his mom prepares. He always feels better when I do the cooking.  

He works out so intensly that he is constantly hungry, and can consume some amazing quantities of food. He is quite lean, and in great shape....   From what I have been reading, he should tone down the strenuous exercise a bit (hard for an ex-military to do..), and add in relaxation techniques. Should be interesting!

When I thought he was a Hunter, blending that with my Nomad diet wasn't too hard... Maybe Teacher/Nomad won't prove any more difficult...





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I think he is just a Teacher that is WAY out of balance. He consumes volumes of meat, mostly toxic ones.


I think if you are able to reduce/eliminate the amount of toxins in his diet, you will see a reduction in the allergies.

The body seems to only be able to handle a certain load of toxins before it starts to react. Cutting down the toxins should reduce what it reacts to.


This is the thread that I think gumby refers to above.


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pixelland
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Thanks for the link.... so much to learn! I was so sure he fit the Hunter profile before I learned his blood type (good thing I didn't bet on it!   ), so I'd already been working on the wheat/corn issues. He's glad to know he has more cheese options, but cutting out beef is going to be a challenge.

You are so right about the limits of what a body can handle. That's why many people "develop" allergies around age 40. He had moderate sinus problems when he was younger, and it got bad enough when he was 38 to seek help. It scares me to think of all the pills, etc., he takes.

I need to learn more about the gastric issues Teachers may have. He takes something daily for acid reflux (I think ), and something else to help with the rest of the process of elimination. TOO MANY PILLS!!!

I'll take all the testimonials I can get from Teachers to help convince him. Unlike a certain troll we all know, my fella has an open mind.  

Thanks again!!!


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Find some ostrich to use instead of his beloved beef...he'll probably like it even more than the beef...but beware that he'll also probably need to cut back on the quantity simply because of the price difference.

Hunger is not always from working out...it can also be his body is wanting more food because what it's getting isn't what it can use and/or needs.

Actually, reading his workout doesn't sound really all that bad for a male Teacher. Slammed one day (weights) and comparatively light the next (bike ride & running would be lighter for me anyway) is what Teachers need.

Perhaps his ride & run are actually when he allows his mind to wander and relax...I do that with dance - the beat allows me to automatically stay in time (cadence for a military person) while I let my mind unwind...the same is true of my fencing...blocking out everything/one except the strip and my opponent allows me to focus elsewhere long enough to relax. I view the exercises recommended in the book is just that: some recommendations or illustrations to get the idea across as to what any given genotype needs.
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Hunger is not always from working out...it can also be his body is wanting more food because what it's getting isn't what it can use and/or needs.


I agree with this...  As a teen, I was eating like a pig and starving to death...  I ate 4 or 5 meals a day, but was always hungry.  The majority of what I ate was toxic for me, so it was hard to compare 1 meal with the next to determine what I should be eating...  From age 16 through 40, I just kept getting sicker.  It was only when someone recommended BTD and I read the book - it made sense to me and the food intake dropped significantly and the allergy symptoms really dropped away.


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Thanks Chanur and ABJoe...  I know that the workouts are necessary for his mental relaxation. If he misses his workouts, he gets rather "edgy". His son and I are both trying to talk him into adding yoga, too, and we are almost "there"...

I think he can totally relate to what ABJoe said. I think he eats alot now, but he says it is nothing compared to what he would consume when he was younger. He's 52 now, but doesn't look a day over 40. I'm not sure how much the allergies and gastric issues really bother him, since he is quite stoic. All that military training, you know.  

This is great stuff! More, more!!  

If we try ostrich, I need to find some other source than the local HFS. $9.99 for 6 ounces!!!!!! Yikes! That's high for me, and I only eat half that at a meal!


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Yes that is the thread!  Thanks C...you really ARE sharp!

I completley agree about the quantity of food.  The healthier I get the less I eat.  Same with gatherer hubby.  The right foods sure do make a difference!  

How does he feel about tofu?  I never used to like it much, but now I find it one of the most satisfying things I eat.  We have this awesome organic locally made stuff here, and it is really great. Ground turkey is a nice, easy option too, along with the fish.  And of course, beans.  And the food of heaven...peanut butter!

He might find eating more often to be of more benefit than three huge meals also, so that his body has time to use all of the food and has a more consistent supply of energy.  

Yeah, being a teacher is pretty awesome.  


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Oh I forgot to mention about stomach acid issues.  We As can have pretty significant ones, often from a lack of stomach acid I think...which mimics heartburn.  I've not had an issue with it since beginning btd/gtd.  I had bad damage to my esophagus and stomach...well, the whole system really (6 mos of very aggressive chemo), and the docs thought the damage was permanent.  I had probs for a few years, but not since the day I started eating for my b-gtype.  Nope, no permanent damage...all healed up.   Food is powerful stuff!

I think when it feels like heartburn, and then is treated with acid reducers, it can really mess up our ability to digest even more.  Puts a lot of stress on the system lower down to do all the work...work that it was not necessarily designed to do.  I sure will be curious to hear how he does if he decides to give the gtd a whirl.  I bet he'll fell like a million bucks!

Oh, and remind him to chew, chew, chew his food *lol*.


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Had allergies growing up, like mad.  No problems with allergies anymore... especially since I got my correct blood type, finally.
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thanks Gumby... (love your handle, btw...)

I'm not sure if he would eat tofu, but that would be a good way to up the proteins. It's a toxin for me as a Nomad, but perhaps I can find ways to sneak it into his meals. If it helps satisfy the appetite, he'll probably like it!

Peanut butter will probably be a "hit", and I might be able to control myself there...  

about eating more often...  I don't think that is possible!   Presently... it's two bowls of cereal for breakfast (not compliant!), sandwich for lunch (was roast beef, switching to turkey and compliant bread for starters) with Cheeezits   ... not much of an afternoon snacker...  Huge dinner, especially on workout days... and massive snacking before bed.

I'm slowing winning him over by making changes as I can and as I learn more. Trying to lead by example... It's a process, after all..



Oh.. thanks for the second post on the stomach issues, etc... Sounds just like him!


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Had allergies growing up, like mad.  No problems with allergies anymore... especially since I got my correct blood type, finally.


Thanks IBR... (love the bear!)... I'm still feeling a bit guilty for thinking he was an O Hunter. I kept asking him to find out his blood type by calling his doctor or donating blood or locating his old dog tags. I finally ordered the test kit (duh!!!)... and now we know! He was already feeling better eating my cooking instead of the SAD. Now, we can really make changes for the better!


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Whenever I get a red meat craving (about every 6 wks or so according to my husband) I have a nice BIG piece (approx. 8 oz raw wt.) of either goat or ostrich...no heartburn, no aches, no nothing negative and then I'm happy with fish, beans, nuts, cheese, and the occasional piece of turkey...unless I get a whiff of lamb grilling at the market...then my husband gently gets a hold on my upper arm and stirs me away as fast as he can 'cause he knows it is my worst food weakness. Some women want chocolate this or that, some want confections of sugar, some want fine wine...Chanur wants a lovely chunk of luscious lamb.
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I have a feeling that the nonnie allergies may be caused by the almost exclusive reliance upon cellular immunity to deal with bacterial activation by eaten carbohydrates.  

My thinking is that, as the white cells in the bowels are activated to deal with the reactivity, white cells elsewhere are also inadvertantly activated, and their activity upon healthy tissue constitutes allergy.

Am I right?  In any way?
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