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Ribbit
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If the AB nonnie diet was a lifesaver for you, maybe you shouldn't give it up, Isa.  But for those of us who had great results but still think it could be better, we want to figure out exactly how to do that.  And if it means transitioning to the GTD, we want to make sure we do it right.


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She's just saying he knows the types so well that he could probably figure it out by just looking at you.  He is the one who basically figured out the GenoTypes.  He probably has a keen eye for torso, leg length and fingers by just looking.  She knows her Blood type and Secretor status and he probably has the matrix memorized.  Maybe.  Seems pretty reasonable to me.


Yes, that's what I meant Kristin..I'm a Warrior btw.  

  I thought by my measurements that I was a Teacher, until I went to see Dr. D. I think my long head gave me away..   
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Yes, that's what I meant Kristin..I'm a Warrior btw.  

  I thought by my measurements that I was a Teacher, until I went to see Dr. D. I think my long head gave me away..   


And that is precisely what I find so disconcerting. By your measurements, you are a teacher. I thought it was our measurements that was the definitive for genotyping.... coupled with blood type, Rh, etc.  But Dr. D says you're a warrior from your elongated head. How can that be???? Unless you were measured at the office and typed to be a warrior from that.

But... don't mind me. I tend to resist categorization at every twist and turn in the road....  

And the main thing is that you found a diet/lifestyle plan that works for you, which is the whole point.  



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Only conjecture here...
The measurements may have been close but the head shape was so dominant that it took precedence over the measurements...

I realize it is a bit confusing if it doesn't just fall into place, but the body is somewhat like that.  

I'm really thankful that I was pointed to Dr. D's work so something finally makes some sense...


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Kristin, after reading through this thread it reads to me like Mayflowers simply means that she measured herself incorrectly.

In one of the older threads (I can't find it now) Mayflowers talked about going to the clinic the very first time. She also talked about how Dr. C took her measurements but did not tell her what her genotype was. When she returned for her results she asked Dr. C. why she hadn't been told previously that she was a warrior and Dr. C. had said that she thought Mayflowers would like to be told what her correct genotype was from Dr. D. himself rather than her.

I hope that clarifies things for you.

When she mentions Dr. D. talking to her about an elongated head, perhaps he was just pointing out various common warrior strengths as part of their conversation. Just because they might have discussed their strengths doesn't mean he used them as diagnostics when he obviously had more than that as data to determine her genotype from.

Edited once to correct grammer, and again to add last paragraph, but the modify button didn't like to work so who knows how many edits will actually show as being made.

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And that is precisely what I find so disconcerting. By your measurements, you are a teacher. I thought it was our measurements that was the definitive for genotyping.... coupled with blood type, Rh, etc.  But Dr. D says you're a warrior from your elongated head. How can that be???? Unless you were measured at the office and typed to be a warrior from that.
But... don't mind me. I tend to resist categorization at every twist and turn in the road....  
And the main thing is that you found a diet/lifestyle plan that works for you, which is the whole point.  


It's close, and another thing, my finger prints..arches, sure sign of a Warrior. Remember when he blogged about having the parent's blood type when genotyping, that it was important? My dad was AB+, 6'3" and a Warrior. I'll post a pic of him. He has a big, long head like a Warrior..Isn't this stuff fascinating?!!  
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I'm almost sure my dad is a Warrior.  He's tall with a long narrow head.  I probably am a Warrior, but I don't understand why the Teacher diet doesn't make me feel bad.


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It's close, and another thing, my finger prints..arches, sure sign of a Warrior.  


Arches are a sign of the Warrior? I don't remember reading that. I've got arches too and I'm 100% sure I'm not a Warrior  


Your measurements must have made you a  Warrior too, Mayflowers.

If the little things like fingerprints and face shape trump the measurements we are all in trouble and don't stand a chance of ever figuring this out  . According to the book the measurements are what matter, not the strength tests.  

Thanks to all the tall Teachers that responded. It looks like you don't have to have a rare disorder to be a tall Teacher after all  






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It's close, and another thing, my finger prints..arches, sure sign of a Warrior....


Thanks All for your help here.  

Ok... if it's close I can understand how physical features/characteristics can come into play and help determine genotype. Otherwise... I'm completely befuddled.

Ah well... such is life...

{{sorry for hijacking the conversation, Heidi. Back to Tall Teachers.....}}



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Page 158 "Often has one or two arch type finger print patterns". It's not listed in Biometrics for any other GenoyType.  

Ribbit, the diets are pretty similar, that might be why you haven't seen any difference. All of my black dot cheeses are on the Teacher diet.

I must have measured myself incorrectly.  Especially with my hip to thigh measurement.
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[quote=815]Page 158 "Often has one or two arch type finger print patterns". It's not listed in Biometrics for any other GenoyType.  
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Thanks Mayflowers. I must have read it since I read the entire book. And then promptly forgotten  . I have 4 arches which I find interesting since both my parents and one sibling that I have been able to print have loops on every finger.

My daughters, who I think are probably Warriors, have some of each pattern in a rather mixed up order. Very asymmetrical. I guess they had a stressfull pre-birth experiance  .




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I guess they had a stressfull pre-birth experiance  .



That's hard for a mother to think about, isn't it?


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Arches are a sign of the Warrior? I don't remember reading that. I've got arches too and I'm 100% sure I'm not a Warrior  


Your measurements must have made you a  Warrior too, Mayflowers.

If the little things like fingerprints and face shape trump the measurements we are all in trouble and don't stand a chance of ever figuring this out  . According to the book the measurements are what matter, not the strength tests.  

Thanks to all the tall Teachers that responded. It looks like you don't have to have a rare disorder to be a tall Teacher after all  





This is a most excellent point though.  I'm ready to just forget this whole thing too, because even after going to a IFHI practitioner, who helped a great deal, I'm still not 100% sure and now I see where Kristin is coming from.  I feel like the only way we'd know for sure is to see the Dr. himself.  I'm in a position where I might be either a warrior or a nomad now, and there is a big difference between the 2.  I think I'm going back to the AB diet.



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Can't you tell a positive difference on one or the other, ABNW?


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Well, I wasn't on the AB diet for too long.  And I won't say I felt terrible on the Nomad diet.  I felt like I was feeling better.  But that is coupled with the regiment of supplements and detoxing my doctor had me on.  In fact, I can point to a few things that he gave me that I KNOW made me feel better.  Like pronto.  So, I don't just have the diet as the baseline.  

You wanna here something really funny?  I came home, and just HAD to try and measure myself.  I went in the bathroom, measured myself sitting in front of the mirror and put a mark on the door and did the same standing.  I did it somewhat sideways so I could see if I was holding the book perpendicular off of my head.  And when I did it, I found my TORSO longer.  That's the exact opposite of this morning!!!!!!!!!!  Her chairs were taller, yet we got about the same sitting height!!!!!!!  I feel like I'm on drugs and entered into the surreal.  My chair is 17 and I got a 52 siting height.  Her chairs were 19, and we got a 52.5 sitting height.  

Then there's another kicker.  I swear I used to be 5' 8"-3/4, now I'm just under 5' 8".  I'll have my wife help me again sometime.  And my doctor said he's going to.  But even if I figure it out.  I'm gonna follow the AB diet for a while and see how it goes.  Maybe at least until my next visit.  But if my torso IS longer.  And my lower leg is longer (which I'm still not sure about that 1/2", it could totally depend on where you are measuring and whatever) I'm back to a teacher.  I really don't think I'm a warrior.  I think it's between a teacher and a nomad.  But again, what do I know?  That I'm an AB.  Hehehehehe


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Since I was so close in measurements, I ended up using a spirit level to make sure the measurement was even with the top of my head. I tried doing it myself but it was impossible without someone else.


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Well, I have a feeling I'll be back on the GTD sometime.  Maybe sooner than later.  I don't know.

I do know this, when I went on the scale this morning I was back up to 129.  I think with my doctors recommendation on eating more ghee and olive oil, not worrying about frequency of different foods and even eating some AB foods, I've shot up in that very little time.  It'll be interesting to see if I keep going up on the BTD.  And how far.

I think for now it's probably a good thing to do.  

ABNOWAYALLTHEWAY.  Yeah.  That's a good one.  I think I'll put that under my avatar.


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I'm officially off the Teacher diet.  I just realized none of my new pants fit.  I'm getting fat really fast!  All I've lost over the last few weeks is back with a vengeance.  I don't know if it's all back because I don't own a scale and haven't weighed myself, but it sure feels like it's all back.  So back to the Warrior diet for me because at least then I'm skinny.


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So back to the Warrior diet for me because at least then I'm skinny.


I thought from your picture that you would be a Warrior...  Slender with a (somewhat) Almond shaped face...  


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"Why the long face, Ribbit?"

"Well.....I'm....rrr....you see....I'm a Warrior.  Rarr."


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"Why the long face, Ribbit?"

"Well.....I'm....rrr....you see....I'm a Warrior.  Rarr."


Join the club.. YAY! Ribbit Warrior sista is back!
draw your sword and be proud!  The Warrior diet is the only way I'm losing weight. I haven't been this thin since 2002! I am now thinner than I was then!  

So, ABNOway, when you flying out to see Dr. D?  
You know you want to... Are you going to TN? Aren't they doing Genotyping there, or did I mis understand?
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Join the club.. YAY! Ribbit Warrior sista is back!
draw your sword and be proud!  The Warrior diet is the only way I'm losing weight. I haven't been this thin since 2002! I am now thinner than I was then!  



Yes, I must say I feel like I'm back home even though I haven't done anything Warrior-like to my diet yet. Just changing back over mentally has been refreshing.  I have to finish up the muenster cheese in my fridge.  Maybe that's what made me fat--the change of cheeses.  I'll weigh myself Monday at the chiro and see if my pants are lying to me or if I have indeed gained the weight back.  Well, if I have, it shouldn't take to long before it falls off again, thanks to the wisdom of Dr. D.


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But muenster cheese is on the Warrior diet..It's one of the black dots..means we can eat it. I partake of the mozzarella and ricotta also. Ok, I cut back if I stop losing.. So far, any avoid I cheated with is on the BTD......except for the occassional nightshade..
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Wow, big things happening around here!!!  I am soooooo glad I'm not the only one that isn't totally sure.  I'm not going to spend the money to go see Dr.D.  It would be cool but something is telling me to stay on the AB diet  for a while.  I felt really good today and I had some potatoes last night and other AB stuff.  I even had a small little piece of chocolate.  You know, on the AB diet Sugar is actually a neutral?  No wonder the GTD helps people lose weight.  That's one thing I'm not going to eat much of because of the candida.  I probably still try not to eat too much sugary fruits.  But add a few here and there.  And I've been eating more grains.  Oatmeal seems to be doing very well for me too.  I've been eating it at night.  For some reason, if I eat grains at breakfast, like the rest of the world, it makes me feel lousy a little while after breakfast and I feel like it's taking a long time to digest.  So I stick with fruit and yogurt.  I used to do a vegetable soup with LOTS of garlic for breakfast.  That sits well too.  But NO GRAINS at breakfast.  I tried it a week ago and same deal.

Anyways.  I'm not going to obsess over GTD right now.  The supplements I'm taking from my doctor are detoxing me anyways.  Maybe it's too much to do the GTD and the supplement regiment I'm on.

I love muenster cheese.  I just had some Colby with dinner.  Wow was that good!  Soft and tastes like cheddar.  Man was that good.


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