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Can chicken cause depression in some people?

wrong lectins can cause that, and more, as we have all found out already, and thus chicken for your daughter....


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I thought that Dr. D said for children to eat BTD & start GTD after age 12 or 13.
I'm still waitng for SWAMI also. I think I'm borderline, altho I'm growing into gathering.........

I am also under the impression that GTs are not inherited the same way BTs are. They are influenced by outside forces as well as one's blood type.
I'm guessing my older son to be a nomad, my younger a teacher, & my husband a warrior. I keep gathering with my concealed carry hunter lurking nearby. Explorer? I doubt, altho I have some signs of that also!
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I can't figure out how to get good fingerprints out of her



I would try to see if there is a local program (sponsored by the police department or other group) to fingerprint children for identification and then let someone with experience fingerprinting children do it for you.

If that is not an option there are some kits to fingerprint children. I do not know if these make it any easier or more reliable.

For instance

http://www.childidprogram.com/03id_kit.html

This looks like it does it the same way as the genotyping kit (therefore not easier):

http://www.fingerprintamerica.com/c_choiceprint.asp

Here is an expensive electronic approach:

http://sentry-technologies.com/catalog/index.php/cPath/1?osCsid=947886741713e726c9730a0e6af8013c


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I know this thread has kind of taken a turn but I thought I would just say, when I redo all my measurements and strength tests and stuff, I think I'm stilla nomad.  Hahahahhahahhahahha!!!!  It's that 1/2" on the legs that is getting me hung up.  Well, I'm going to do the AB diet and see what happens.  But I know my Doctors office said they'd help me remeasure the next time I go in.

Anyways, please resume to whatever everyone wants to talk about.

Ribbit, something kind of hit me last night.  It would be interesting to measure the kids.  Even though it doesn't matter.  But you could track where they change and where they don't and if the foods coincide with the changes in measurements.  Maybe that's too crazy of an idea.  I don't know.


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I would try to see if there is a local program (sponsored by the police department or other group) to fingerprint children for identification and then let someone with experience fingerprinting children do it for you.

If that is not an option there are some kits to fingerprint children. I do not know if these make it any easier or more reliable.

For instance

http://www.childidprogram.com/03id_kit.html

This looks like it does it the same way as the genotyping kit (therefore not easier):

http://www.fingerprintamerica.com/c_choiceprint.asp

Here is an expensive electronic approach:

http://sentry-technologies.com/catalog/index.php/cPath/1?osCsid=947886741713e726c9730a0e6af8013c

As I mentioned a while back, I found conventional fingerprinting with an ink pad quite difficult as there was always too much or too little ink to read the print properly.
However, one day whilst sitting in the sun after having put some liquid makeup on my face, I glanced at my finger tips and found that I could read the prints easily at source without even having to print them out. Pencil and paper at hand, I recorded all 10 prints in a minute, and got more results than my bumpy, blurred ink prints. If you did this on a child I assume that their prints would be life-long identifiers, and thus a useful clue on top of their blood type, to narrow down their GTD from the 3 possibilities arising out of blood type.
In fact any child older than a baby could be involved in helping do the drawings and experience this fascinating bit of personal scientific research.




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Can chicken cause depression in some people?

That's about how I felt on last Monday, after eating chicken the night before.
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Wow ribbit.  4 months straight of screaming.  How did you figure out eggs?  Did you just fast and start putting foods back in?  Seems like it would've been hard to figure out.


Well, you can't fast when you're breastfeeding or your milk will go away. (Although last time I had a stomach virus I didn't eat anything for about 3 days and I still had milk, surprisingly).  The ladies at LLL suggested wheat or dairy, since they're the most common allergies.  But I was already off those.  So they said, "It's probably something you're eating every single day."  We went over what I'd been eating and eggs seemed like a plausible possibility, especially since at that time DH couldn't eat eggs.  From there, over the next couple of years when she would develop a funny wailing or bright red cheeks or other allergy symptom like that, we'd review what she'd been eating a lot of the last few days and weeks.  Then we'd take out the likely cause, and pretty soon realized they were the exact foods her Daddy had trouble with.  Hence my recent thought she was also a Nomad.  But I'm going to try Explorer for her.  

Good idea about putting makeup on their fingers and taking them outside.  Will try---their little fingertips are so tiny though!

Drive, if it's any consolation to you, DH can now eat chicken every once in a while and it not bother him.  When he travels sometimes he doesn't have a whole lot of choice about what he eats.  Sometimes he's fed at strangers' homes and it would just be flat-out terrible for him to turn it down.  I expect he would turn it down if they fed him tofu steeped in soy sauce, but it's unlikely here in the great US of A (except in my house--I've fed tofu to strangers and they talked about how amazing my teryaki chicken was ).


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WOW!  Good detective work.  Sounds like God was working.


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...I'm going to try Explorer for her.


Please let us know how it works out for her.
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Well, you can't fast when you're breastfeeding or your milk will go away. (Although last time I had a stomach virus I didn't eat anything for about 3 days and I still had milk, surprisingly).  The ladies at LLL suggested wheat or dairy, since they're the most common allergies.  But I was already off those.  So they said, "It's probably something you're eating every single day."  We went over what I'd been eating and eggs seemed like a plausible possibility, especially since at that time DH couldn't eat eggs.  From there, over the next couple of years when she would develop a funny wailing or bright red cheeks or other allergy symptom like that, we'd review what she'd been eating a lot of the last few days and weeks.  Then we'd take out the likely cause, and pretty soon realized they were the exact foods her Daddy had trouble with.  Hence my recent thought she was also a Nomad.  But I'm going to try Explorer for her.  

Good idea about putting makeup on their fingers and taking them outside.  Will try---their little fingertips are so tiny though!

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Yes, I hadn't thought of the size of the fingertips. Perhaps an old fashioned magnifying glass would be of help?
Re the eggs, my 11 month old grandson was having such bad reactions with reflux/food, that we finally went to an allergy specialist and found with the arm pricks that he is seriously allergic to egg (not that he had been given any, but his breastfeeding mother would have had some, not much).




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Drive, if it's any consolation to you, DH can now eat chicken every once in a while and it not bother him.

How does he do on eggs now?  I mentioned this in another thread, but I also had 1 scrambled (very soft) egg on Sunday morning.  It made me sleepy most of the day, but I felt ok otherwise.  I figured the effect had worn off by Monday, but may the two culprits conspired against me to wreck my Monday.  I guess I'll have to try chicken again, far away from any other avoids, to get a clear reading on how it affects me.  I wish I'd thought about that egg sooner, it makes better sense now.

So which came first?  The egg did, at least on that day!
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After he was on the BTD for 6 months or so I suggested he reintroduce eggs and dairy (neither of which he was able to tolerate).  He reluctantly tried and now eats 2 eggs for breakfast every morning along with a big bowl of yogurt with fresh fruit and he always, always, always has mozzarella cheese with lunch.


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One of these days....   I really miss eggs.  I am glad I never had dairy problems, so I've got that going for me at least.
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Chanur,
  Your chart rules. I found this thread looking for SWAMI Consumer Version's release date. I'll check back on the 8th and see if there's news.

I want to take my knowledge and compliance to a new level and was debating the mini-conference, a pretty big trip for me. I'm going to invest in a secretor test and the SWAMI program instead when that comes out. I hope everyone who attends enjoys the conference. Another conference in Minneapolis/St. Paul or Chicago would be nice


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Sounds like your a teacher to me, a little too much into details.  I was the same way, I went through almost all the diets before I found out the right one, teacher.  You look like me too, Sinewy.  I knew for sure I was on the right track when I listened to Bjorks music and it spoke to me and didn't creep me out, I just felt the teacher energy there.
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Who are you talking to, SaveRain?


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I think she's talking to me.  I've been doing the AB diet and I felt pretty darn good last week.  I have been staying away from things that are supposed to be good but don't do good for me.  Like millet.  AND, I'm going to be taking a food IGG test or basically and allergy test and I may end up having to rotate some of my foods.  What does that have to do with anything?  I don't know.  But after I do my measurements and strength test, I really think I'm still a Nomad.  The legs still give me doubt though.  So, it is what it is.  I'm on the AB diet.  If I ever quit going to this doctor and not take supplements that help me detox, I'd REALLY like to make sure because I think the GTD diet helps you detox well.

I think that's one of the problems about me taking the supplements.  It seemed like the diet plus the supplements would detox me so hard, it would make me feel really bad.  But the BTD seems like it doesn't do it as quick and the supplements help.  I don't know.  Maybe I'm crazy.  Probably so.  I can still tell I'm fighting the stupid candida though, and it really is irritating.  But overall, I had a pretty darn good week last week, better than in a while, and I'm not on the GTD.  What does that mean?  I'm not sure besides the fact that I'm not doing any harm to my body by just sticking to the BTD.

And saverain, I saw the sugar cubes from the first row about 20 years ago.  Them, the violent femmes, PIL, and New Order.  Can you top that?     Boy, I'm so much better for it now too.  


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Maybe I'm crazy.  Probably so.  I can still tell I'm fighting the stupid candida though....


That'll make you crazy in and of itself.  Good to hear you had a great week.  Hey--BTD isn't a bad diet.  It's fantastic!  And GTD may not be for everybody.  I understand why Dr. D couldn't include all the "reasons why not" for the foods on the avoid lists in the GTD book, but it would have helped in cases like your own where you might like to change your genes (or at least "perfect" your diet) but you want to gain weight.  It would be nice to have a little red dot next to those avoids that are only avoids because they cause weight gain.  That way people like you and DH and Drive55 can eat lots of those.


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If I ever quit going to this doctor and not take supplements that help me detox, I'd REALLY like to make sure because I think the GTD diet helps you detox well.

I think that's one of the problems about me taking the supplements.  It seemed like the diet plus the supplements would detox me so hard, it would make me feel really bad.  But the BTD seems like it doesn't do it as quick and the supplements help.  I don't know.  Maybe I'm crazy.  Probably so.  I can still tell I'm fighting the stupid candida though, and it really is irritating.

Don't let the candida fight get you down...  Keep putting the right food in and tolerating the uncomfortable feelings as you detox and heal!  It can be a slow process (I know!), but I keep getting better, even though I still feel rough most days...  


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I think she's talking to me

I think she is a he!


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It would be nice to have a little red dot next to those avoids that are only avoids because they cause weight gain.  That way people like you and DH and Drive55 can eat lots of those.

Amen sistah!  Meanwhile, I'm still sitting at a hefty 130 lbs., just like I have been for two months now.  That is seriously underweight for a guy who's 5'10".
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Drive, I've been hanging out at 131 and hitting a hefty 132 some days.  I think ribbit might be correct though. I don't know.  And I'm not saying it's a bad diet.  It may be that you had to lose a bunch of weight to help get rid of stuff and now you have to rebuild.  What my doctor told me is don't worry so much about the portions.  I was following the diet to a "T" with the portions.  Like it says such and such amount of times for Turkey per week.  Well, going over that with some nice fatty dark meat might be a good idea.  Or like the ghee and olive oil and beneficial fats.  He said don't skimp on it.  Use it liberally.  I think you heard me say that before eh?  Well anyways, like I said, I'm staying on the AB diet for now, it seems to be going well.


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Hey,
  Underweight and anemic have a few longevity advantages. Animal studies have shown longer lifespans in animals fed 30% less than normal and iron is an oxidant. Less of it in your system means less oxidative damage as long as you can maintain stamina. I found eating wheat gluten tired me out a lot more than having a low iron count.

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Ok, I just read the entire section on Explorers in the book and it sounds just like her!  Super sensitive (we eat at Cracker Barrel a lot when we're on the road because we can all find something safe there, but when we walk in she starts rubbing her nose and scratching her cheeks--many restaurants do that to her, but Cracker Barrel is the worst) and tends to have unexplained, sudden complaints.  I'll try the Explorer diet for a couple of weeks.  Thanks, Chanur.
So how's it going with her? Is the Explorer diet working out for her?

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