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Mrs.T, I was wrong.  I was getting whorls and loops mixed up.  I basically have all loops.  One of them could maybe be considered an arch.  But I think it's pretty much a loop.  I was getting whorls and loops mixed up because it had been a while since I read that part.  Then I had to look at it again.  I still strength test 1 higher as a teacher I think compared to Nomad.  But there are questions I don't know.  

Chanur, the nurse in my doctors office said she would just follow the BTD until you know for sure.  I think I'm actually going to just start the teacher diet. But, again, there isn't a whole lot of new stuff to be really all that concerned about.  Most everything on the teacher diet I've had at some point on either the AB or Nomad diet, and the things I haven't had, I probably won't be buying until down the road anyways.  I think I'll have some peanut butter today though.  hehehhehehe

And your point is taken, I'll try not to stress out about it.  


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Mrs.T, I was wrong.  I was getting whorls and loops mixed up.  I basically have all loops.  One of them could maybe be considered an arch.  But I think it's pretty much a loop.  I was getting whorls and loops mixed up because it had been a while since I read that part.  Then I had to look at it again.  I still strength test 1 higher as a teacher I think compared to Nomad.  But there are questions I don't know.  

Chanur, the nurse in my doctors office said she would just follow the BTD until you know for sure.  I think I'm actually going to just start the teacher diet. But, again, there isn't a whole lot of new stuff to be really all that concerned about.  Most everything on the teacher diet I've had at some point on either the AB or Nomad diet, and the things I haven't had, I probably won't be buying until down the road anyways.  I think I'll have some peanut butter today though.  hehehhehehe

And your point is taken, I'll try not to stress out about it.  


ABNoWay, remember that we have been told that it can take 3-6 months to reset your genes by using mainly superfoods and avoiding black dots and avoids scrupulously.



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Yeah, but what does that mean exactly?  I don't know how long I've been on the GTD but it's probably around 3 months.  Give or take.


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it means you now follow the GT specifications for your new GT diamonds and superfoods for another certain period of time, to reset and make sure you are on the right track now.


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I've been following the Teacher diet now for nearly 3 weeks and I can't tell any real difference.  If I'm a Teacher, shouldn't things be better?  Or if I really am  Warrior, shouldn't I feel worse now?  Mostly what's changed are my cheeses and a few odds and ends I've had to give up.  I eat ~90% diamonds (not just beneficials, but diamonds!) and I really can't tell any difference.  I'll join you in your boat, ABNW, the boat named Rockin'.  I feel like that's what I'm doing, is rocking the boat, but I'm not sure if it's a good thing yet or not.  I might have to say my headaches are a little better.  And maybe my shoulder.  I do still have to be adjusted once a week at the chiro, but at least I'm not in as much pain.  Maybe.  So much else is going on right now it could be any factor.  I'm spending many hours in the garden and hard physical work causes me to need less adjustments.


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Well, they both have less red meats, if any obviously, and are geared to getting your protein more by fish, nuts, dairy, and beans.  They are kind of different though.  Warrior gives you more tasty fruit options, eh?  I don't know.  I'm pretty sure I'm not a warrior.  If anything it is the question between Nomad and Teacher.  

Hey ribbit, we have VBS at my church right now and there is an Evangelist named Russ Hanson and family running it.  It's really cool.  He was a geologist and I wonder if you've heard of him.  He's from up here though in Wisconsin Dells.  I didn't go tonight because I didn't feel up to it.  But I was there last night and Sunday night.  Also, nice pic of you shooting an SKS.  I was like.     Although not completely surprised.

Anyways, how is your candida fight going?  Are you winning with the GTD.  I would think the different GTD's might make a difference with that.  The Teacher's whole profile is about having too much gut bugs, so to speak.  Which fits my description.  My bet is that is why there isn't as many sugary fruits on the list for the Teachers.  No grapes, Prunes, Apples, whatever else there is.  

My chiro has to keep pushing down my stomach for hiatal hernia and it does make me feel better.  Sorry I don't know how to spell that.  


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Hey ribbit, we have VBS at my church right now and there is an Evangelist named Russ Hanson and family running it.  

DH probably has.  He knows everybody.  DH is in PA this week at a big conference.  I'm lonely.

Also, nice pic of you shooting an SKS.  I was like.     Although not completely surprised.

I'm a Warrior after all, right?   Oh, wait, maybe not.  I like the SKS.  Nice.  Smooth.  Accurate.

Anyways, how is your candida fight going?  

Okay, I guess, although my skin is still off-and-on good and then bad.  

Are you winning with the GTD.  I would think the different GTD's might make a difference with that.  The Teacher's whole profile is about having too much gut bugs, so to speak.  Which fits my description.  

Me too.  I'm sort of both, which confuses me.


My chiro has to keep pushing down my stomach for hiatal hernia and it does make me feel better.  Sorry I don't know how to spell that.

My chiro does that for DD#1's tummy aches.  Some little flap in there gets, well -- flappy, for lack of a better word -- and needs poking occasionally.  Thanks for asking about me.  I don't want to hijack the thread, though.

  




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Well I did start the thread, so no hijack felt by me.  It's all about the people.

I know how you feel about being both.  I feel like I fit alot of the descriptions of the teacher AND the nomad.  I have a feeling we're not the only ones that have that situation.

As far as the candida goes, am I understanding this correctly that you are eating a little wheat now and OK with it?


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Yes!  Wheat doesn't affect the Candida.  Only sugar does.  And something else I haven't figured out yet, as is indicated by my skin.  But it's not wheat that's the problem.  Wheat used to cause all sorts of troubles for me but after being on the Warrior diet I can eat it again.  I wonder how it would have been if I'd started out on the Teacher diet.  I can still tolerate wheat and dairy on the Teacher diet.  Even the flip-flop of cheeses hasn't been a problem.


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Wheat doesn't affect the Candida.  Only sugar does.


Any starches will affect my Fungal infection...

I had to eat some starches for a while, but recently found out that I wasn't getting enough Amino acids.  As soon as I started supplementing them, the starch need dropped away and I'm back to beneficial proteins, vegetables and fats with very little fruit and no grains...

Somewhat boring diet, but as long as I'm able to reduce the toxin, keep the pain in check and up the healing, I'm all for it!


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ABJoe, you're a warrior!  Wow, that's news to me.  How's your measurements?  Is your torso or legs longer?  Is your upper or lower leg longer and what's up with your fingers?  

I think that's why I've lost alot of weight.  Not alot of sugary fruits lately.  I think I'm going to start eating some more.  At least compliant ones.  Whatever that is.  Hehehhehehe.


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ABJoe, you're a warrior!  Wow, that's news to me.  How's your measurements?  Is your torso or legs longer?  Is your upper or lower leg longer and what's up with your fingers?  

I think that's why I've lost alot of weight.  Not alot of sugary fruits lately.  I think I'm going to start eating some more.  At least compliant ones.  Whatever that is.  Hehehhehehe.

I don't remember the measurements exactly, but I think my legs were 1 inch longer than torso.  Lower leg longer than upper.  Finger lengths don't matter as all AB(-) with my torso and leg measurements are Warrior...

The diet fits really well and I am healing at a very fast rate.  It is a struggle to keep balanced so I don't get headaches from lacking some nutrient...  
My body is removing toxins from all the lyphomas, which sometimes hurt/itch and I've expelled several small ones through the skin and heal...  Not especially wonderful to look at, but it is effective in getting rid of the junk!



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that sounds encouraging!


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Wow, that is great Joe!!!!!!  It sounds like you are heading in the right direction!!!!!

You're the first AB Warrior I think I've heard of.  Maybe there are more.  I wasn't hanging around here for  a while.


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My body is removing toxins from all the lyphomas, which sometimes hurt/itch and I've expelled several small ones through the skin and heal...  Not especially wonderful to look at, but it is effective in getting rid of the junk!



Will you describe this more please?  Expelled....what?....through the skin?  What did it look like?  Where?  On your neck under your jawline?


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Alrighty then.  I went to an IFHI practitioner today.  Very helpful. And very nice.  Also real near me.  She had the kits and helped me do all the measurements.

Here's what happened.  In her office we found my legs longer.  Which is opposite of what I did.  By exactly an inch.  We did it in 2 different chairs.  My ring fingers are definitely longer on both hands.  Which I had that right. The legs are the problem spot still.  My lower is 15" and she came up with my upper at 15-1/2".  Which using the advanced calculator, saying my upper is longer, puts me as a warrior.  But, the question is, are we doing the upper measurement correctly?  And is 1/2" basically the same or not the same?  I do believe Lloyd said if it is within a 1/2", you call it the same.  And if so, ties go to the lower leg and that would put me back at a nomad.  So, I'm still confused.

Furthermore, she measured my head, did my jaw angle and all this.  The only thing we didn't do is the prints, and I can see what they are just by looking at them.  I have ALL loops.  I don't understand which way is ullnar and which way isn't.  The book and the video says it "opens" to your pinky.  Well, where is there an opening on a loop? And when they ask if they are the same on each side, do they just mean a loop or a loop that "opens" the same way, or the opposite way for symmetrical-ness? I digress, after doing all the other measurements with my head, if she did it right, I score highest as a Nomad.  17.  Which probably doesn't matter anyways because the measurements are what counts.  I think.

Right now, I feel like I'm too stupid to figure this thing out, and I think I'm going back the AB diet. Maybe it will help me gain some weight back and with the supplements my doctor is giving me, they are targeting detoxing anyways.  

Can anyone tell I'm frustrated?  I'm probably being overly anal, but I mean, Warrior, Nomad?  There is a big difference in diets and I don't want to eat the wrong one.  It's just that simple.  And I can't seem to target which one it is EXACTLY.  If I try the warrior diet, I'd probably lose more weight, and I'm already at the LOWEST healthy weight for my height.

Any comments are welcomed, but at this point, I'm overwhelmed by details and minutia that I can't take it any longer.  I need an easy answer, and the AB diet is just that.



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I feel your pain ABNoWay....same thing happened to me.  I got so stressed and obsessed about being exactly sure that the more I checked the different my measurements were.  So since I was already having great success doing my BTD I decided to stay with it til the end of the year and by then hopefully I will have found someone I trust to help me with getting the measurements right.  Feel like I need an objective person to tell me what my body type is and head shape as I feel I am a little of each.  And now with losing even more weight Im more unsure.  Ive accepted that it will have to wait but am enjoying the BTD and look forward to the GTD.    Good luck to you.


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Thank you. As I said before, I feel comfort knowing I'm not the only having this issue.  Maybe I'm being summoned back to the AB diet by a higher power for some unforseen reason.  I don't know.  I want to do what's mostly beneficial for my health, and maybe the AB is the thing right now.

Maybe all of this will be a non issue and we can get SWAMI'd and figure out exactly what it best for us.  Although, just eating the foods and seeing how it goes can help us with that.  At least we know what's supposed to be good for our blood type.


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Will you describe this more please?  Expelled....what?....through the skin?  What did it look like?  Where?  On your neck under your jawline?


You want graphics? Ok...
Lyphomas - subcutaneous (under the skin) cysts (lumps - hard or soft, hard seem to be more compacted), mostly benign, but if turn malignant can grow up to 30% per day!

Expelled through the skin - several of the sights have had an open sore that refused to heal.  The practitioner I am workiing with suggested I get "Indian herb" from http://www.lifelinewater.com to put on it to kill the fungal infection and draw the waste through the skin.  The instructions for use are on the web site.  I have had some different visuals - two sights (shin and forearm) looked like there were a group of carrots (tiny) killed and expelled, while three other times (1 shin, 2 forearm), it looked (and felt) like either a lentil or half a split pea were expelled.  In either case, the material expelled is gray and either soft (roots) or hard for larger pieces.  the skin fill in pretty quickly once the junk is pushed out, but it takes a while for the skin tone to return to normal.

I also woke up about a week ago and had several red spots of varying size from about 1/8th inch diameter to 1/2 (base) x 1 inch height triangle on my left forearm.  The body must have been fighting something - probably more fungal infection, but the two largest has some small blisters (2 or 3 each) and pop and now are just slightly darker spots on the arm...

I have the lyphomas all over the body, except head and neck (it seems like the body puts them where they do the least harm), but I have had healing ongoing in the sinus cavities and in the skin around the nose...  They are all reducing in size now, fortunately.  The largest are on my left hip, there are three in a cluster that had grown all together to form a lump about 4 to 5 inch diameter and at least an inch thick.  It has reduced again to three seperate lumps...  They are really painful when they are between two ribs and hurt when you breath heavily or bend over too far that direction .

I tried to answer all of the question, but if there are more, I'll do my best.


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Any comments are welcomed, but at this point, I'm overwhelmed by details and minutia that I can't take it any longer.  I need an easy answer, and the AB diet is just that.

I don't think you can lose by going back to the AB diet.

For me, the body had already "told" me that I was eating too much meat.  When I measured and determined Warrior, then looked at the diet, it made perfect sense (and works great, too)...  
I can imagine the frustration of not really feeling right, as I was approaching that with the AB diet...  I went with what the body was requesting, since the diet is "guidelines".


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  I do believe Lloyd said if it is within a 1/2", you call it the same.



What I said was qualified to an extent. If you are fairly confident of your measurements then 1/2" (or even less) is more than enough to say your leg sections are not the same length. With greater then 1/2" you should be confident of the measure, in my opinion. With more than 1/2" innacuracies in the measurment are much less important than the technique.

For someone who is not sure of their measurements but thinks the upper is longer by a small amount (generally less than 1/2") then strength testing may be the better option rather than using the tie rule.

The final proof is how you do on the diet, the suggestion is only aimed at the person having a stress free way to determine the GT with the best initial accuracy. There will always be a few people who initially start out on the wrong diet.  
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Well, I'll tell you this.  I'm not completely confident about the measurements on the legs.  I think it's close.  But not sure.  My strength does have me as a Nomad. I think.  Hehehehe.  Which may very well be exactly what I am. The only thing I'm 100% sure on the measurements is my Ring fingers are longer than my index fingers on both hands.

I said in the other thread I came home and did some measuring and I'm back to having a longer torso.  I'm going crazy so I'm just gonna do the AB diet for now.  


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Well, I'll tell you this.  I'm not completely confident about the measurements on the legs.  I think it's close.  But not sure.  My strength does have me as a Nomad. I think.  Hehehehe.  Which may very well be exactly what I am. The only thing I'm 100% sure on the measurements is my Ring fingers are longer than my index fingers on both hands.

I said in the other thread I came home and did some measuring and I'm back to having a longer torso.  I'm going crazy so I'm just gonna do the AB diet for now.  


The frustrating thing is I'm pretty confident the GTD is the better diet.  I'm sold on the science.  But what are you gonna do? I have a feeling because this whole deal is pretty new, there may be a learning curve for teaching and learning.  Although I admit, that may just be me rationalizing my failure to figure it out.


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33% Nomad, calories calories!!!!!!
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I just quoted myself.  See, I'm going crazy.


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