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Kristin
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You too sav???

Next thing you know, I'll find out I'm a 5'10", 135 lbs. Gatherer....


Ha ha ha!! I've been thinking the same thing! Only I would be a 6'1", 152 lbs. Gatherer. In fact... got out the measuring tape yesterday just to be sure (for the 100th time)   but my lower leg is still longer than the upper so... Nomad it stands.

But I do not do as well on the Nomad plan as I did on the B secretor diet so I have decided to abandon the nomad life for now...

However, my 6'2", 150 lb. son is a Gatherer... also an O+



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Hi Ron and Soverein,
I find Teacher diet yummalicious and are ready to give you recipes already written in Teacher Master cookbook, I too am not sure if I am a Warrior with Teacher size. So I have some warrior food when I like it, and emphasize the common food in between the two diets.
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I've been thinking the same thing! Only I would be a 6'1", 152 lbs. Gatherer. In fact... got out the measuring tape yesterday just to be sure (for the 100th time)   but my lower leg is still longer than the upper so... Nomad it stands.

But I do not do as well on the Nomad plan as I did on the B secretor diet so I have decided to abandon the nomad life for now...

However, my 6'2", 150 lb. son is a Gatherer... also an O+



You have the height for the Nomad.   That's the main thing I don't fit: I'm not particularly tall or short, just slightly taller than average.  And the second thing is that I'm not muscular--definitely an ectomorph frame!
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saverain,

The O diet stopped my 21 years of IBS, but I was having all these joint pains and aches, and I was getting tightness in my arms and all over.
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You have the height for the Nomad.   That's the main thing I don't fit: I'm not particularly tall or short, just slightly taller than average.  And the second thing is that I'm not muscular--definitely an ectomorph frame!


The height is one of the only things that is in the nomad profile that seems to fit me. That and a predominence of ulnar loops. I'm small-boned, definite ectomorph, elongated rather than squarish head. And although I can display the outer facade of such... I am definitely not easy going on the inside.



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And although I can display the outer facade of such... I am definitely not easy going on the inside.


I can relate!  According to the book, the Nomad "tends to keep emotions hidden".
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Ha.  Not the one I'm married to.  He experiences a vast array of surprising emotions (and they say women are emotional!) and he wears them all on his sleeves.


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Ha ha ha!! I've been thinking the same thing! Only I would be a 6'1", 152 lbs. Gatherer. In fact... got out the measuring tape yesterday just to be sure (for the 100th time)   but my lower leg is still longer than the upper so... Nomad it stands.


Hello everyone!....  Finally got my book, and trying to decide for sure about my Nomad status....  I thought that my upper leg being longer than my lower leg was one thing that put me in the Nomad category, but that must not be the most defining characteristic.

On reviewing the advanced charts in the back of the GTD book, Nomads show up in all categories. The torso can be longer or shorter than the legs, and upper/lower legs can be either way, too. Not totally sure about my upper/lower leg measurements, I reviewed both possibilities, and narrowed it down to Explorer or Nomad. If everything else points to Nomad, can I presume that I am a secretor?? according to the chart on page 290?? I'm B- and female?

I'm usually good at puzzles, but this is a challenge!
Any help will be greatly appreciated!  


"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events."
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I think your Rh- will most likely land you in the Explorer camp. There are secretors and non-secretors in both Nomads and Explorers... but I've never seen a B- as a Nomad. Not that it can't happen... but Nomads are almost always Rh+ from my understanding.


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Hi Pixelland,

can you tell us a little more about yourself. Your occupation, interests, exercise or somatype?  Are you a receptor type? The altruistic thing?  Intuition thing? Natural networker?

This knowledge has helped me greatly in reducing stress by being more aware of how I take in info.  I now have a name for this stuff.  

I could tell that Tomatilla was a Nomad before she knew because of how she writes. Her care pours through and her high activity level.

(hello Isa if you read this)
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Hello Kristin, Stefina, et al.... Thanks for trying to help!
Let's see...  a little bit more about me:

Occupation: Portrait Photographer, mostly working with small children. Lots of patience, empathy, and quick problem solving needed in addition to my artistic eye. Also physically demanding, going non-stop for 3-4 hours (used to be 8 hours!), photographing 50+ kids per morning. Most "shooters" I know are like me: somewhat "closet comedians"... rather shy until they pick up the camera and the fun side pops out. A bit of a "wall-flower" unless I know the crowd well, or I'm working. Job also requires that I be self-motivating and like working as my own boss, but I think it's more that I don't like anyone looking over my shoulder, so to speak.

A typical Cancer, I am intuitive, empathetic, sometimes moody...  read any description of my sign, and you've read about me...
Personality type: Artisan composer, ISFP

Interests: besides health and nutrition   I also enjoy gardening, birdwatching, hiking and camping...  Happy to be sitting on the side of a mountain enjoying nature. My brother, type 0, would be bored in the same location because "there's nothing to do here"..  Exactly!!!

Somatotype: Primarily mesomorhic, with a little "endo" thrown in there on my hips when I neglect diet and exercise. Very broad shoulders, very low hip/waist ratio, large bones. Small wrists and ankles.. finger touches thumb around wrist.

Exercise: Yoga and/or Pilates 3-4 times per week, plus bicycling 2-3 times per week. I build muscle easily, so most people presume that I hit the weights regularly. I don't.. for several reasons: I "bulk-up" quickly, and I don't want to look like a body-builder... Yoga challenges my mind and keeps me fluid, not "bound".

I also don't like the repetitiveness of weight training. I like variety, or I get bored easily. Unlike my Hunter S.O. who can do the same routine and same bike route week after week, I have to change it up. The yoga teachers that I prefer change their routines from class to class, and I ride a different route just about every time I go out on my bike.

I seem to fit the psychological traits of both Exp and Nomad, but not the biometric and biochemical traits.
Hands are symmetrical, both in finger length and prints. Ulnar loops on all 8 fingers, arches on the thumbs. Index longer than ring.
Probably prop-taster, but not super-taster - don't know for sure.
Some would consider me tall, though I'm not sure about the standard used here. I would consider my height average here in the US, but tall in Asia.
Head shape more elongated than square, more almond than square in the jaw line.
Metabolism: medium at best....  not the high metabolism of an Explorer...

Not sensitive to caffeine: can drink several cups and then go to bed  
Family-related questions: History of clinical depression and cancer... No diabetes, immune, or circulatory issues.

So that's the basics!... My first read-through on the genotypes placed me as a Nomad. Working through the "calculator" on the GTD website placed me as Nomad (score of 11) over Explore (, without either prop-taster or secretor status available. Looks like I might have to take the tests to be sure. Nomads are "almost always" Rh+, so there must be a few Rh- ones out there....

Soooo.... what is your intuition telling you about me? Any good clues in all of this?? Neither one lets me eat tomatos!  

Does having trouble focusing on work rather than diet tell you anything???  

Thanks!








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Hey Everyone.. I was searching for weight loss topics and came accross this thread which had a couple of things in it that I related to and have questions on.

First of all, can one loose weight eating mostly diamonds and a few of the superfoods?  I'm asking because I'm in the camp with saverin in that if I don't get some complex carbs in, I start having horrid fatigue and there are no diamonds that are complex carbs such as rice, etc.    Also I would miss out on a lot of vegies if I did only diamonds because a couple of my staples, kale and swiss chard are not diamonds.  So I'd want to keep those in.

I'd appreciate any feedback on that topic.

2nd of all Ice Bear I had to laugh with sympathy, cause my hubby (I posted on
this last year), went all his life thinking he was an A.  And when we got together I took away his beloved steak and beef and put him on chicken and fish and for two years with me, he followed the  A diet and salivated every time he watched  me devour a NY steak or some nice roast, etc.

So when the GTD came out, we ordered the blood typing kit as well.  We sat there shocked as it turns out he was an O!  He had it in  his mind from some child hood experience way back when that he was an A and all this time, he was an O!

So needless to say, I cooked a special steak dinner that night and he was so overwelmed with joy!  ha...
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Hi Pixelland,

Nomad  

Half human/ half cartoon

or pixel in your case
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First of all, can one loose weight eating mostly diamonds and a few of the superfoods?  I'm asking because I'm in the camp with saverin in that if I don't get some complex carbs in, I start having horrid fatigue and there are no diamonds that are complex carbs such as rice, etc.    Also I would miss out on a lot of vegies if I did only diamonds because a couple of my staples, kale and swiss chard are not diamonds.  So I'd want to keep those in.

I'd appreciate any feedback on that topic.



Quoted from The GenoType Diet, paraphrased in part
Foods that help the (your GenoType here) maintain their ideal weight, increase muscle mass, and decrease body fat are identified by a diamond icon. To gain the maximum benefit from your diet, they should be routinely consumed.


Why make things difficult? Make diamonds as large a part of your consumption as you can, filling out the rest with other superfoods and judicious use of neutrals. Don't make the diet out to be something it's not by imposing regulations on yourself that were never intended.

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Quoted from Lloyd




Why make things difficult? Make diamonds as large a part of your consumption as you can, filling out the rest with other superfoods and judicious use of neutrals. Don't make the diet out to be something it's not by imposing regulations on yourself that were never intended.



Hi Lloyd.. yes I've read that paragraph you quoted and I feel it is sort of not clear.  

I'm  not trying to make it difficult at all.  I'm just asking a question.   I've read in past threads, where Lola has said several times, to eat only diamonds to loose weight and that she was doing that, and so I was thinking I should adhere to that but it left me wondering if I could add a few superfoods.  

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haaa Stefina this is a good expression half humman/ half cartoon
the same way I feel (am )


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Hi Lloyd.. yes I've read that paragraph you quoted and I feel it is sort of not clear.

I'm  not trying to make it difficult at all.  I'm just asking a question.   I've read in past threads, where Lola has said several times, to eat only diamonds to loose weight and that she was doing that, and so I was thinking I should adhere to that but it left me wondering if I could add a few superfoods.  



I'm pretty sure that if you re-read my answer I gave you an approach that should work well for you. If you choose to replace the words 'as large a part of your consumption as you can' with 'every last bit of your consumption' then you would have a 100% diamond approach. Some people can go to 100% and others cannot. You have suggested that you cannot and there is no reason not to use other superfoods, just try to work in as many diamonds as you can.  


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important is to nourish your body right!
if no diamonds available, then simply do the best you can, and enjoy your food.
no need stressing out cause stress causes high cortisole and that only nourishes our fat cells not us!!


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haaa Stefina this is a good expression half humman/ half cartoon
the same way I feel (am )


In your case it's half human/ half smiley face  

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Thanks Lloyd and Lola... I get it now.  

And thanks for rephrasing your answer Lloyd.  I had taken it incorrectly.  
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Quoted from pixelland ~ Somatotype: Primarily mesomorhic, with a little "endo" thrown in there on my hips when I neglect diet and exercise. Very broad shoulders, very low hip/waist ratio, large bones. Small wrists and ankles.. finger touches thumb around wrist.


Is that actually possible to have small wrists and ankles but still be considered big boned?  Have wondered this most of my life.  I also have broad shoulders and wide hips with extremely small wrists and ankles and very long thin fingers.


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Quoted from pixelland ~ Somatotype: Primarily mesomorhic, with a little "endo" thrown in there on my hips when I neglect diet and exercise. Very broad shoulders, very low hip/waist ratio, large bones. Small wrists and ankles.. finger touches thumb around wrist.


Is that actually possible to have small wrists and ankles but still be considered big boned?  Have wondered this most of my life.  I also have broad shoulders and wide hips with extremely small wrists and ankles and very long thin fingers.


most people are a combo of somatypes.
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pixelland, have you looked into the gatherer? sorry, but you may find a cozy home with us!!!!
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You too sav???

Next thing you know, I'll find out I'm a 5'10", 135 lbs. Gatherer....



You only weigh 135????  Dang, I thought I was light.  But I'm not totally that far off from you.  I'm 5'8" and weight 127 right now.  

And guess what, I redid my measurements again and I think I'm a teacher.  I fit the the description physically, yet there are traits that fit the Nomad too.  I'm kind of frustrated right now because I'm unsure if I should make the jump.  I looked at the strength testing and thought I was off the charts with Teacher, but then I figured out I don't have whorls, I have Ulnar loops.  It almost seems like I'm a cross between the two.  I'm almost to the point where I just want to go back on the AB diet because I'm confused.  Sweet Potatoes work, Lamb doesn't, and the list goes on and on. Meaning some of the things on the Nomad seemed to be ok that's not for teachers, but then it seems there are things I'm eating as a nomad that I shouldn't and missing things that teachers can have.  Like Peanut Butter.  I think in the end I fit the teacher more though.  I'm pretty sure I feel better eating more veggies and less meat.  I'm afraid I'm going to lose more weight if I switch though.  What a dilemma.  

Either way, I think I'll try the teacher diet for a while and see what happens.  What have I got to lose?  Besides weight.  hehehehehehehehe.  I just want to do the best thing for my body.


Ice Bear Ron, that's pretty amazing.  I was on the A diet for I think 6 mos or so.  No maybe it was a year.  I forget.  But I was an AB.  It's funny how we get something in our mind.  You must be in shock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


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ABnoway, you do have a certain Teacher-ness aura about you.  Both the Teacher and the Nomad have underactive immune systems, so there is that similarity.  I say, dive into the Teacher diet for a month and see what happens!
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