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meribelle
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Today I made a decision.  I love so many things about the gatherer diet, but I miss having fruit to nibble on during the day.  And I have had zero energy lately, which may or may not be related to food intake.  At any rate, I decided to break out my old O-Nonnie list and have a go at it for a while.  Either way of eating is far better than eating everything in site.  I have not even had enough energy to post on here very often.  Today I had a banana, plums and some prunes.  For supper I sauteed cod fish breaded with rice flour in olive oil.  It feels like finding an old friend.  Anyway, I hope I can still maintain my weight with the extra fruit.


Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again.  Blessings, meribelle
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I've gone back to the A-Nonnie diet this week too. I was not having the energy problems like you, Meribelle, but felt like I was not eating very well at all. Everything was compliant, just not very balanced at all. Very few fruits, limitied veggies, rice and beans. There just aren't enough of the Explorer foods available in my area  .

The A-nonnie diet is better for me as a vegetarian too, I think.
I did have good results weight loss wise with GTD though. I was eating the secretor diet (oops   ) prior to GTD so I am interested in how things will go.

I'll still avoiding things like coffee that are supposed to be especially bad for my liver   I'm 100% certian that I am and Explorer so I don't think it is a case of eating for the wrong type, just lack of available superfoods  




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Good Luck to you on your 'change of life' (pardon the pun!)  I really did not mind the gatherer diet once I got used to it, but I did miss readily available fruits.  


Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again.  Blessings, meribelle
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Today I made a decision.  I love so many things about the gatherer diet, but I miss having fruit to nibble on during the day.

Hey, either diet is great, but I'm just wondering why you feel that the Gatherer diet is limited on fruits, because I feel like we have so many to choose from on our superfoods list.

We have yummy ones like pineapple, peach, grapefruit (okay, so I realize not everyone loves grapefruit, but I do *lol*), lemon, lime (those last two are not ones most would eat ala carte, but it is great they are SF's because I add lemon to EVERYTHING I make and they are great in beverages, too), raspberries and watermelon (my fave!).

I've been making great SF fruit smoothies lately with just pineapple juice, frozen raspberries, and a huge dollop (really huge, like 1/4 of a cup huge) of elderberry concentrate--Yummmmmmmmm-MY!

And those are all just from our superfood list, we have tons more fruit to choose from that are neutral for us

If you feel better "going home" to the O nonnie diet then, by all means, do so and celebrate it, as it does indeed ROCK, but if the only reason you are turning away from the G2 diet is the fruit sitch, look again, girl, because there are tons of beautiful, chi-filled, colorful, fabulous choices.

Try the smoothie I mentioned--weeeeeeeeeeeeeee!  The pause that refreshes!


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Fruit does have a tendency to make us poetic, doesn't it!! As PT says, it rocks! I do love fruit!!!
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I was thinking about "portable" fruit: like bananas, and plums.  Grapefruit are great, but hard to eat at my desk at work cause they are messy.  Peaches are a mystery to me.... I cannot pick a good one no matter what.  They all taste like awful cardboard.  Pineapple I love and I eat for breakfast every morning.  

I don't know... Maybe I was just looking for some reason for my tiredness.  At any rate, either Dr. D. diet is okay with me.


Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again.  Blessings, meribelle
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With peaches, just smell one at the store.  If it has that nice peachy
fragrance, it should be ok.  If it has a weird, or lack of peach scent, skip it....so far that has worked for me even when the peach is under ripe when I buy it.  
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Quoted from Peppermint Twist

Hey, either diet is great, but I'm just wondering why you feel that the Gatherer diet is limited on fruits, because I feel like we have so many to choose from on our superfoods list.

We have yummy ones like pineapple, peach, grapefruit (okay, so I realize not everyone loves grapefruit, but I do *lol*), lemon, lime (those last two are not ones most would eat ala carte, but it is great they are SF's because I add lemon to EVERYTHING I make and they are great in beverages, too), raspberries and watermelon (my fave!).


I thought the exact same thing when I first read this post - I feel like we have so many great fruits!  What about nectarines, figs, cranberries (could be dried), mango (could also be dried), peaches, apricots (dried are great!)...

I make a smoothie using some combination of watermelon, pineapple, mango, raspberries, lecithin, ground flax, pineapple juice, and cranberry juice.  I drink part of it in the morning with breakfast (along with an egg and some superfood veggie) and have the rest later as a snack or with another meal.  Easy, portable, super!

The neutral food I usually eat the most of is mango since I'm kind of obsessed and it goes with so many great superfood fruits, like pineapple, raspberry, watermelon...

Of all the foods, I feel the Gatherer diet is toughest for veggies.  It is so important to eat lots of veggies, but most of my faves became black dots and I am still struggling to get enough on a regular basis...


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Maybe I was just looking for some reason for my tiredness.  At any rate, either Dr. D. diet is okay with me.


Do you have weight coming off?  If so, there are usually toxins in the fat.  When the toxins are removed, they quite often have the same effect as when initially eaten...

Personal experience shows that detoxing can cause ups and downs in energy levels, etc...  

Also, if you are eating a bit less sugar and have any fungal infection, you can have major issues as the fungus "demands" more food or dies off...


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If you have trouble with peaches, I think its because there haven't been good peaches the past few years.  I love a good peach, but they are too hard & then ripen too fast, spoiling if I don't eat them right away.  I feel like going to Whole Foods & paying 2 bucks to have a great peach. It's better than paying that for some sweets that are unhealthy.
I also have trouble giving up fave veggies, but it's getting easier. There are also many fave fruits that are dots like cheeries & grapes, but next year I hope to indulge.
Also the meat situation isn't as easy as for hunters, but I'm getting better on that. I found turkey legs at WF & plan to indulge in ostrich sometimes. Man, is that expensive!!
Go ahead & enjoy certain fruits! I don't look at portions that much anyway, so didn't feel deprived about fruits.
Cheers!
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mmmmmmmmmmmmmm watermelon does sound good.  tonight we are having beef.  I have not been eating much of it since it was neutral for gatherers.  I am also enjoying prunes, of all things.


Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again.  Blessings, meribelle
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I was thinking about "portable" fruit: like bananas, and plums.  Grapefruit are great, but hard to eat at my desk at work cause they are messy.  Peaches are a mystery to me.... I cannot pick a good one no matter what.  They all taste like awful cardboard.  Pineapple I love and I eat for breakfast every morning.

Aaaah, portable, I see what you mean.  And yeah, ain't that the truth that it is pert near impossible to find a good peach anymore in this man's army!  A good peach is a wonderful, delicious thing, but a bad peach--whoa, doggie.  Your "awful cardboard" description pretty much sums it up.  I feel the same way about my beloved tomato:  a good one, simply sliced and slathered with some compliant (that's my story and I'm sticking to it!) mayo and a little sea salt, is proof of God's existence.  But a bad one?  omg, omg, o.   m.   g.  What an affront.

I think the trick is to get both things fresh from the organic farm or home garden, but in this world, that ain't so easy, especially when it comes to peaches.

Portable G2 fruit, eh?  You don't ask the easy ones, do you!     All right, let's go to the videotape (a.k.a., the book):

What do we have...(and my boss is on a "WebEx" in the neighboring cube to me right now, so cracking open the GTD at this particular moment may not be the wisest move I ever made, but *shrug*, I've already done a full week's work in the past 3 hours, so I get to look up a portable fruit or two if I want to, dang it!):

Well, we do have the aformentioned peach, if you can find a good one.

The we have nectarines, but they are subject to the same "awful cardboard" phenomenon that you previously outlined for us *lol*.

What else do we have?

...let's take a gander, here...

What the heck is "Carissa, a natal plum"?  Don't know but it sounds portable!

And of course we have apricots, those are emminantly portable, yes?

As for some of the others that are not portable in whole form, just cut up some and put it in my hero, Gladware, and ba-ba-bing-ba-da-YUM, portable G2 fruit fare!  For example, you could cut up:

Watermelon (my fave)

Pineapple

Raspberries (you don't have to cut those up, but some Gladware for toting them would be advisable)

...You know what?  We have a lot of WEIRD, unidentified-by-your-typical-American fruits in here, such as:

Feijoa (didn't he win Wimbledon one year?)

Mamey sapote (I heard she died...)

Cloudberry (sounds like it should be a children's book about a horse)

Cherimoya (didn't he assume power via a violent coup?)



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Feijoa (didn't he win Wimbledon one year?)

Mamey sapote (I heard she died...)

Cloudberry (sounds like it should be a children's book about a horse)

Cherimoya (didn't he assume power via a violent coup?)



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Way too funny!! Made me guffaw as well...  and I needed a laugh today, thanks!!



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Way too funny PT!


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Quoted from Kristin
Way too funny!! Made me guffaw as well...  and I needed a laugh today, thanks!!


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Way too funny PT!

I hear Feijoa is heavily favored to win Wimbledon again this year!





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wanna bet??


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With peaches, just smell one at the store.  If it has that nice peachy
fragrance, it should be ok.  If it has a weird, or lack of peach scent, skip it....so far that has worked for me even when the peach is under ripe when I buy it.  


That is exactly how I buy peaches. If I can't smell peach, I don't buy. (But, then, that is the way I buy all fruit.) I was in a large peach market a while back just as the peaches were coming off the trees dead ripe right there on the spot. The smell was heavenly. I told one of the clerks that I HAD to have a peach right then! I bit into it and swooned nearly it tasted so delicious! Just perfect! The place was packed with tourists and they were getting the biggest kick out of seeing me enjoy my peach. Naturally, they all wanted to buy some! ---That clerk knew exactly what he was doing giving me that peach!
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the best peaches I ve ever had were in Turkey......
over 35 years ago......Yaman is my witness!!


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the best peaches I ve ever had were in Turkey......
over 35 years ago......Yaman is my witness!!


If they are better than the ones around here, I would swoon, for sure!
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I still got to taste yours!


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When I received my GTD book December last, I was thrilled to find that I, as an A, secretor (Teacher) could tolerate yoghurt, buttermilk and lots of (swiss) cheeses again.
I drank every day 1 glass of buttermilk and ate the cheeses I had not eaten since 1999 when I started my BTD for A's.
In february 2008 I got pain again (since 9 years!)    in  my kidneys, reminding me of my kidney-stone times. Urine got flocky again and I felt awful.. I started to skip the cheeses, buttermilk and dairy  for good overnight.. Three days later pain in my back gone,   urine transparent again.
So, I am back on my BTD path, and enjoying it tremendously.
GTD taught me that raisins and rye are no good for me. It always gave me diarhea although BTD neutral.

Anyway, BTD and/or GTD one should always listen to one's body carefully.
So back to goatcheese for me and soymilk and soyyoghurt.. I love it.

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