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funkymuse
Tuesday, June 17, 2008, 12:24am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Looking to purchase some high quality Vanilla Extract at a good bulk rate... what about this one?  Anybody have any other online suggestions?

http://www.bulkpeppercorns.com/vanilla
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Tuesday, June 17, 2008, 1:29am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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You could make your own. I tried it using a vanilla pod and soaked it in rum (I use it in cooking so that the alcohol evaporates). It is very nice, but the rum is strong. Next time, I'll try it in brandy or vodka.
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You could make your own.... Next time, I'll try it in brandy or vodka.


I think they normally use vodka commercially...or that's what I've heard.  



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funkymuse
Tuesday, June 17, 2008, 2:38am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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I'm not making my own.  I already make too much stuff and as time gets tighter, I'm not even going to be able to make what I make now.  

What do you all think of the vanilla link I put up... I think  buying it in the bulk amount might be the best.  Just wondered if anyone else had a good source.  

thanks!
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I already make too much stuff....,


no kidding girl!!!  anyway, that looks good to me. can't remember what I pay at WF for the good stuff. Do you have a WF near by? If so, I'd give them a call and compare prices. This stuff looks pretty pricey, but I don't remember how many ounces are in what I buy. Not much help I know.  



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Frontier makes vanilla flavor.

http://www.frontiercoop.com/dspCmnPrd.php?ct=spfavvanilla

Ingredients are vanilla, vegetable glycerine and water.


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I'm not making my own.  I already make too much stuff and as time gets tighter, I'm not even going to be able to make what I make now.

Ok, but all you need to do is take an empty bottle (I use a 50 ml one), put one vanilla pod inside and fill vodka in it. That's it. It will take one minute at the most.
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Frontier makes vanilla flavor.
http://www.frontiercoop.com/dspCmnPrd.php?ct=spfavvanilla
Ingredients are vanilla, vegetable glycerine and water.


this, as you can see, is sweetened vanilla tho. I bought a bottle, once...........never again. didn't care for it at all.

Curious does have a point tho..........shouldn't take long to put together. and funky if you have a nip for you while you're making it, it's ok.      wish I could find that poem about baking and drinking. it's hilarious!
So Curious, how long do you leave it soak? Might try that meself.



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funkymuse
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Ok, but all you need to do is take an empty bottle (I use a 50 ml one), put one vanilla pod inside and fill vodka in it. That's it. It will take one minute at the most.


Well who can complain about that!  I'm now going to research this.  I'd like to know how much  you get, can I just put it in the vodka bottle (how much is 50 ml? - I'm dumb about that!)....  what kind of bottle you are using, etc., etc...
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I use Rodelle's Organic Vanilla Extract from Kroger. Organic beans, water and organic alcohol (35%). They have it on sale now and then and the price is reasonable.
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We make our vanilla extract with potato vodka (you have to ask for it, most vodkas are made from corn; you can substitute a good quality brandy) and about 6-8 vanilla beans. The beans go into a dark blue bottle and the vodka is poured over them until the bottle is full. Then it goes into a cool dark place for about 3 months; I shake the bottle once every couple of weeks, or when I remember The result is fantastic extract--dark, rich and fragrant.

The link you listed is pretty decent, f-muse. I'd say buy an 8 oz bottle and also get started on making your own. By the time you use up the bottle your homemade stuff will be ready That's what we did and we've never gone back to storebought.

Btw, you can re-use the vanilla beans in the bottle for other things. I scrape out the insides to use in cooking and baking, and often stick 2 or 3 used beans in agave nectar or cane juice crystals to give a faint vanilla taste.


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So Curious, how long do you leave it soak?

IB, I leave it for a minimum of 1 week, but I think the one Brighid makes (and leaves it for 3 months) will taste better. Once I have finished my little bottle, I just add more alcohol to it.
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I'd like to know how much  you get, can I just put it in the vodka bottle (how much is 50 ml? - I'm dumb about that!)....  what kind of bottle you are using, etc., etc...

The 50 ml bottle is very small, it is a glass bottle. I think you can use the vodka bottle and if it is a 500 ml bottle, just add 8-10 vanilla pods.
I also reuse the vanilla pod like Brighid has described.
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We make our vanilla extract with potato vodka (you have to ask for it, most vodkas are made from corn; you can substitute a good quality brandy)  


does this matter:  potatoes are an avoid and corn is a black dot for me ?
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You can use whatever size bottle you want - THe key really is to get as many pods in it as you can...When I had a proper kitchen, it was a continual batch of always adding the pods from cooking & topping off with spirits as it was used.
THe advantage is that you can make different Vanilla Extracts than what is available commercially - Tahitian Vanilla, Madagascar Vanilla, Real Bourbon Vanilla, etc.
I would try to combine various preps of pods though - Split, Whole, quartered, crushed, etc. to get the better balance of flavours.


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THe advantage is that you can make different Vanilla Extracts than what is available commercially - Tahitian Vanilla, Madagascar Vanilla, Real Bourbon Vanilla, etc.

How would you make them? E.g. Madagascar Vanilla?
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How would you make them? E.g. Madagascar Vanilla?


Those are different types of Vanilla, from different places...
all have different flavour & aroma.
Your common Vanilla in Etats Unis is from Mexico which it is not native and artificially pollinated...


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F-muse, if corn is a black dot for you, then corn vodka will be just fine. My avoidance is based on BTD O-avoid lists, that's all

If anyone wants to experiment with the different types of vanilla beans as Schluggell described, just google 'vanilla bean' and you'll come up with all sorts of sites where you can buy Bourbon, Madagascar, etc. It's fun to experiment with the different flavors.

In general, the more beans you put in the bottle or jar, the more intense and fragrant your vanilla will be. As Schluggell suggested, using quartered, mashed, split beans will give you even more taste and aroma.


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and funky if you have a nip for you while you're making it, it's ok.      


ha.. boy.. it would be more than a nip with what I've been going through lately!!!

drunk on vanilla flavoring! ha... hubby might like that!  haAAAAA
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ha.. boy.. it would be more than a nip with what I've been going through lately!!!
drunk on vanilla flavoring! ha... hubby might like that!  haAAAAA


........thanks for the chuckle right before bed.  



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They are in no way beans - I guess its BIG peeve of mine.
Technically, they are the swollen fruits of an Orchid.
'Pod' is a better common word.

Somehow the Wiki article seems to fall short of what I read of the history of Vanilla in the past...

You can rest assured that when you read Vanillin on the ingredients that it is not derived from the Vanilla Orchid...


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Do you remove the beans after three months or just leave them in there?
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You can leave them in. We leave ours in for six months to a year, depending on how much extract we're using. No longer than a year though. Once the pods are removed then we use them for flavoring cane juice or agave, or in cooking/baking. You can also dry them out and use them in sachets or potpourri. They will still have a faint fragrance. I mix them in with lavender and vetivert or sage and lay the sachets up in our linens and towels.


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you're kinda sorta awesome, Brig!!!
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Awwww, geez jaynee, you're such a sweetie! thanks I'm just a kitchen witch who likes to recycle (aka being cheap! ha ha!). Vanilla pods are expensive--might as well get as much use out of them as possible!

Favorite sachet right now: empty cardamom pods (saved from making pickling spice), used dried vanilla pods, lavender flowers, a sprinkle of cedarwood and sage essential oil . . . all make a lovely spicy-mellow blend, with a delicious hint of forest. Laying up your towels and linens with sachets is so easy, and you don't have to use just floral scents, or strong fragrances. I like an echo of something yummy when I turn back my sheets, rather than a blast of perfume.

Okay, back on topic: I'm finding that I like brandy better as a base for my vanilla. It has a richer flavor. Just personal preference. Vodka and I don't get along well, never have, while brandy is a good friend


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