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Ribbit
Thursday, June 5, 2008, 1:54am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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It's June.  It's been six months.  I didn't reintroduce my black dots at 3 months, opting to get my genes as reset as possible (the next baby should really be something else--no, I'm not pregnant).  I ate some squash tonight, a Warrior black dot.  Any of you others  inviting black dots back into your life?


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No, I'm not even using neutrals for the most part. That has more to do with being satisfied with the superfoods than anything. I will have some taco's one day though...
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Victoria
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I definitely don't have black dots as a goal.  

In my lifestyle, they are foods that will give me a little flexibility if I'm eating at someone else's house (a couple of times a year), or eating out (3 or 4 times a year) and don't have much to choose from.

In my own home, Superfoods and a few neutrals are my foods of choice.
I would say that 90% of my foods are the Superfoods, with emphasis on the diamonds.



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Let me not pass you by in quest
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Chloe
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I haven't made it a point to actually eat the black dot foods on a regular basis.  Maybe in the
past 3 months, I've had 3-4 black dot foods and it was only because I was in situations where
my food choices were so poor.  I felt guilty eating black dots.

I focus on the superfoods and eat as many diamond foods I can squeeze into a day.  I feel
really good and don't want anything to change how I feel!


"The happiest people don't have the best of everything.....they know how to make the best of everything!"
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there may be some of us who do eat black dot foods, oh yes, but don't want to say so.
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I am still detoxing / healing too much to add in even neutrals by choice...  Only when I get caught in a company meal or ?? that I pick the best choice possible or don't eat!

Once I can start living somewhat pain free will I choose to add anything in that even hints of toxin...


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I realized this month that it is 6 months.  I have eaten chicken several times, (chicken is a black dot for gatherers)  Most of the time I ate it was because it was a quick meal for hubby and me or because I was working out of town and there was no bison on the menu!  Anyway, I was lying in bed one night and I felt sore all over.  I felt like the princess and the pea, and I thought and I thought about what could be wrong.  Then I remembered that I had been eating more chicken then I had in 6 months.  I stopped it right away and I feel better.  Is is psychological?  I don't know and I don't care.  I feel better when I stick to the diamonds and the beneficials.  Now that summer fruit is available, I do miss some of my black dot fruits, and I may try one or two.  Overall, I do better with out the dots!


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No, it's not psychological.  When I stopped eating chicken, I felt a little bit better and I didn't feel as bloated.  I also lost about 5 pounds right quick.  And I wasn't really overweight.  I weighed about 139 or so.  I now hover around 134.  It's a black dot for me, and I don't plan on touching it unless I feel like superman and it's the only thing to eat.  If I feel yucky and it was the only thing on the menu, I think I'd skip that meal.  Right now anyways.

I have had chocolate though when I shouldn't be.  It's hard to resist that.  But I didn't eat very much.  Oh yeah, then there was that little bit of ice cream.  That was an avoid all together though, not a black dot.  


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Victoria
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I see the black dot foods as very much like the Infrequent Neutrals from the BTD.  Emphasis on the "infrequent".  This gives us a little more possibility to have a more flexible social life.  At least, that's what it means to me.

No amount of variety is worth the sacrifice of my health, and that's why I don't feel tempted to indulge in the black dot foods.



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Quoted from Victoria

No amount of variety is worth the sacrifice of my health, and that's why I don't feel tempted to indulge in the black dot foods.


  Well said.  For me it means less cooking if I can occasionally eat squash (for example) with the rest of the family instead of having to make something different for just myself.  Also, for us allergic types, if we eat the same food day after day after day, even beneficials, you never know what intolerance might develop.  Black dots just give an occasional break from our same ole, same ole.


ISTJ, BTD since 5/05.  Battling chronic Lyme disease since ~1985.

"Everything is permissible for me, but not everything is beneficial..."  I Corinthians 6:12

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I've basically been off black dots for 5 months. Yesterday I had a major treat and bought a can of baked beans in tomato sauce. So delish. It's only the tomato that is a black dot, and in that form, almost negligible.
Apart from an accidental injury, torn ligament I think, I am really well, and digestion is now excellent; until recently it was still showing signs of detox along with some nausea, but all that is now gone. So exciting.



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After six months I have introduced banana again, that is a black dot. I have no problem.




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Some black dots are avoids in BTD, so when the GTD book was published I had already been avoiding them for 22 months (eggplant, cucumbers, oranges, sunflower seeds), and I chose to continue and relate to them as before: simply avoids. They also don't attract me at all. Banana, which was benni for O and turned to be Hunter's food, I rarely touch since January and it doesn't attract me either.  But I've never given up completely on sweet potatoes...

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I guess since I started on the wrong GT, I have been on the right diet officially since about March 20th. I have eaten more neutrals, as they are more available. Just recently, I feel more comfortable with the diet, but it could also be the better weather which affects me so much.
Since it's summer, there will be lots of good fruits & veggies & I hope to wait even longer than 3 months to have more dots.
My only 'cheat' now is a Lara Bar that has dates. Dates are a diamond for hunters, but an avoid for gatherers-amazing how opposite with the main O GTs!
Certain fave veggies like broccoli were hard to give up & I have some rotting bananas which I plan to salvage & freeze the good part.(I already gave away several. I also have given away many beloved avocados!)One good thing about quitting broccoli is that I think I am able to handle cold better. Maybe I was eating too much of it & it affected my thyroid. I still love hot weather & dislike abuse of A/C, but I noticed I handled it a little better!
Cheers for now! Maybe I'll enjoy those sweet potatoes at Thanksgiving!!!!
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I eat sweet potatoes rarely, don't use bananas, ( ) don't eat my beloved broccoli, use apples and pears now and then.....and like that. Feeling fine.
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I eat black dot foods only in rare situations. I don't eat out much, only once every few months - special occasions etc. My every day eating consists of alternating between diamond foods and non diamond super foods so I'm eating for my waist line and for my genetics too. There are some foods like turkey that I don't like that much so I do eat beef which is a neutral I believe for a gatherer.


A Hunter! With my Gatherer hips?
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Mrs. T....
Question for you!  What is a concealed carry gatherer?  

Hi Ribbit... still doing a lot of raw?  Haven't heard much from you on that and was wondering?


Yes, I am still a bit confused about  some of the O bennie foods that are now avoids..  bananas,  cherries, figs, kale..... broccoli.... some of my favorites...  and JUST when I really  began to love beef it went to a mere neutral!

I'm still not completely compliant, so  I can't quite comment... but I will get there!
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you bet, but diamonds have a je ne sais quoi that grows on you!!!


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A concealed carry gatherer is a Gatherer who believes in her Second Amendment Rights and practices them to the full extent of the law.   I'm a concealed carry Warrior.  I have a family to protect.  And criminals pace the streets and parking lots waiting for an easy target.  Not I.  Not I.  For I am a Watchful Warrior, ready to whip out my.....Yeah.  You get the idea.

Yes, I'm still about 90% raw and luvin' it.  Luvin' I tell ya.  I had a juice tonight for dinner, pineapple and ginger.  That was 5 hours ago and I'm not hungry.  I love raw.  I know that sounds like a wimpy supper, but when I eat raw I simply don't need the amount of food that it takes to fill me up when I eat cooked.  And protein is way overrated, at least in this A's opinion.


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Black dots only when I visit or eating out. Both happen once-twice a week.
I havent felt any difference when I eat black dot vegetables. But black dot legumes tend to take longer to digest.
Black dot fruits like plum makes my tum gurgle. Used to wonder why a SuperBen on the BTD would do that. Now I know  


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wow Ribbit.... you sound , um,  tough!  lol

So glad you are  loving raw....just following  the GTD but raw?

That is what I'm   trying to achieve....

Keep me posted!  I miss you on GTMR....
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gatherer foods raw? that would be a challenge....I feel we don't have that many fruits...but of course, pineapple...well that could be a wonderful raw food everday.
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I'm concentrating on pineapple, peaches, grapefruit...  bit of mango.... oh, and papaya..
Really that's all I need....

Spinach,  dandelion greens, escarole,  

I  DID have some lamb today... haven't been eating meat.... it tasted VERY gamey, but I was out to lunch and  didn't have many options....  if I'm really meant to be a G2 I wonder ..... it will be a challenge!   I love beef so much more... am I a secret Hunter?    lol

I am making  raw  spinach  /  flax seed tortillas in my  dehydrator as well as onion bread ( just onion, flax meal)....   this is working out quite nicely!   I will fill them with  this raw almond "cheese".... quite yummie..!  

I'm not hard core about eating only raw, but it's how I prefer to eat.... I will say this  though....  right after lunch with the lamb, my knee is SOOOO  MUCH BETTER  than it was this morning.. coincidence?   hmm....   doubt it... this is the first  superfood protein I've had... if this is what happens, then I will CERTAINLY  be eating more....  ugg.. I don't love the gameyness of the lamb, though....  will have to look for bison.....
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I don't guess these would be easy diets to combine for some genotypes, but for mine, with a wide array of fruits and veggies, it works nicely.  Sheri, I'm not all that tough until somebody crosses something or somebody important to me.     I'm actually kind of wimpy.  I don't stand up for myself like my husband says I should, and I let people use me as a doormat.  I don't realize I do it, but I always have.  I'm learning.

I haven't had anything new to report on GTMR...I don't know the people (except you) like I do here...We don't just sit around and "chat" on that site like we do here.  But I guess I should go check in every once in a while, huh?


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Lamb is fantastic in the crock pot with just a little rosemary sprinkled on.  It doesn't need anything else, and the gamey flavor seems to cook out of it in the crockpot.  After it's done, I pour the drippings out into a small pot, add salt and rice flour or arrowroot, and I have myself a nice gravy.  Delicious.


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