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rickintoronto
Monday, May 26, 2008, 6:12pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Hi, I was wondering if anything has been written on or if anyone knows what the ideal exercise routine should be for an O NON-SECRETOR. I have been following the o-nonnie diet for years now. But I don't recall anything ever being written on what the non-secretor (in particular the "O") exercise regimen should be. I remember reading that O-secretors are more suited to high intensity exercise like running/aerobics, etc because of their "thinner" blood.  But o-non-secretors tend to have easily clotting blood (thicker?)(i can affirm this) similar to "A blood". Does that mean that I should stay away from high intensity and follow a more low intensity exercise such as yoga which is more of the recommended regimen for "A's".

I know with me personally, I always feel better after a high intensity run and I can run for long periods of time with my heart rate remaining pretty steady. The high intensity cardio also helps to keep the fat off, which I am prone to accumulate.. I also combine this with weightlifting..I have no problem putting muscle on, but I also put fat on easily too...

Looking forward to anyones's feedback. My apologies for any "layman's talk" with respect to mine or someone else's blood type..

Thanks
Rick

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Deeeebbbbrrraaaa....rooostersis... your type is demanded here  
btw...welcome dearest O nonnie male...I just asked my O-nonnie-sis to help ya out of and in that point...and she is also from Canada....what a beautiful country

good  choice for the *sit in * here
kindest greetings outta Switzerland....



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secretor status has no bearing on the type of exercise you should do for an O...having thin blood has has no relation to intense exercise...the intense exercise is to clear the cathecholomine buildup in O's releasing adrenalin from the O system.

As to putting on fat easily...you might have a thrifty genotype which holds on to calories. I would suggest picking up the Genotype Diet as you might be an O Gatherer...this may help you fine tune your diet and help you lose more weight.

http://www.aboessentials.com/servlet/the-292/Genotype-Diet-%28H-fdsh-C%29/Detail


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What Mike said.   And...he is right in your back door, Rick.

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Thanks Mike and Debra! Such great advice. I did some search on the net regarding genotype and yep, although I haven't measured my lower legs or fingers, it definitely sounds like I am the GATHERER type-yoyo dieting, intense carb cravings, emotional eating...First I thought being a nonnie would make life tough, but now I have a thrifty genotype on top of that..sheesh..lol... Anyway, my health has been far better the last few years with me knowing my nonnie status and eating the right kind of foods. Knowledge is power...

I'm going to buy that book in order to fine tune things, but I am glad that I can still go running..
Thanks guys!
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Can someone clarify about the 'thickness' of O-nonnie blood?
I was under the assumptiuon that it is closser to average & not thick like A blood. Can I get the right answer?

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thicker then an O secretor


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And thinner than A blood.

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So, it's official. I bought the Genotype book and I am *drumroll please*a GATHERER... I was away for business the last couple of days and did the tests in my hotel room one night.My torso is longer than my legs, my upper and lower legs are equal and my ring fingers and index fingers are all equal....fingerprints are (more or less) symmetrical.

I almost thought I was an EXPLORER, though. But, strokes and high blood pressure do run in my family, so I guess the likelihood is that I am a GATHERER. According to the GENOTYPE book, one cannot be borderline, one has to be one genotype or the other

I noticed a few discrepancies between the O NON SECRETOR and the GATHERER DIET:

CHERRIES, PLUMS, BLUEBERRIES, BANANA, AVOCADO, and RED WINE listed as beneficial in the ABO Diet and listed as avoid in the Gatherer Diet
COTTAGE CHEESE, BLACK TEA, CINNAMON - listed as avoid in the ABO Diet and listed as beneficial in the Gatherer Diet.

Could avoiding the foods which I used to think were so beneficial to me be the key to shedding those last few stubborn pounds? Avoiding dairy has become so innate to me that it seems almost unnatural to start eating cottage cheese again...Has anyone made the switch and seen even better results than the ABO diet?

And so with the exercise, should I stop with the high-intense cardio and just stick to resistance / weight training along with lower intensity cardio like the stairmaster?

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Go over to the GenoType thread for the answer to some of your questions. (or wait for someone to set up a link for you - I don't know how.  Sorry)
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Could avoiding the foods which I used to think were so beneficial to me be the key to shedding those last few stubborn pounds? Avoiding dairy has become so innate to me that it seems almost unnatural to start eating cottage cheese again...



Yes.

As to the cottage cheese there could be many reasons. An educated guess involves the relatively high tyrosine content.
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definitely!
try a few months of diamonds and notice the magic going on inside you!
report back!

make your own paneer it s so easy and you are sure there are no avoids!
http://www.recipedelights.com/basics/Paneer.htm

that s so far all the cheese I ve been adding, cause I can t find other without additives or whatever.


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Hi Lola...Thanks for the Paneer recipe and the encouragement. I look forward to trying the genotype diet out and posting the results..

And thanks ALL for redirecting the thread!

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also the foccacia recipe, will become your bread staple....
I ve been substituting with cooked millet and adding chia seeds and some ground linseed.....works every time!
http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/breads/r/flaxbasicfoc.htm?p=1


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Lola, (or anyone who may have tried this)

I made the foccacia bread with the cooked millet, I only did 4 eggs, but it was still too liquidy.  So I added some arrowroot probably 1/2 cup.  I had already mixed the full amount of water and oil and I think I will have to cut way back on the liquid next time.

It was actually quite delicious, but definitely I could have used only 1/2 the oil.  I added some sea salt to the top towards the end and ground some Italian spices onto the top, like a pizza bread.  It was very tasty!  

I am going to experiment until I get the right combo, but I really like the cooked millet instead of the flax. It was quite moist which is a pleasure.  Almost like a cross between a thick potato pancake and polenta - yummy!

How do you tweak the liquid ingredients when you use the cooked millet?  Do you put any flour in or do you just use the cooked millet?

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… I noticed a few discrepancies between the O NON SECRETOR and the GATHERER DIET:...


Not discrepancies, different diets, each valid, which ever suits you better. I'm still experimenting, (between BTD and GTD) but will never go back to living on wheat, corn and dairy!

PS, welcome rickintoronto!


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keep adding either liquid or compliant grains until you get the batter consistency you want it to have.....that s how I do it.


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Rick: I wouldn't plunge into the dairy. Try to eat foods common to both diets & then slowly add the different ones. Many find they don't do well on dairy, so be careful.
I still avoid it. It's been a habit for so many years, even before BTD/GTD.
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