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| funkymuse |
| Friday, May 23, 2008, 2:51am |
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Well we have done the GTD supps for two months and we are thinking of going back to the BTD supps.
It's interesting because this may mean we have to buy separate supplements according to what is recommended in the GTD Book.
I have to research carefully on what to do. The BTD supps have much much bigger amounts than the GTD supp's.. i.e. Vit A in BTD supp's has 5500 IU... in GTD supp's - 312.5 IU. Quite a difference.
After two months on the GTD supp's I do think we feel better on the BTD supps and get a better bang for our buck.
Has anyone else really been looking at this supp thing in this way?
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Linda |
| Friday, May 23, 2008, 3:10am |
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I was told by NAP to take my B polyvite, polyflora, phytocal and deflect, and also add the Explorer catalyst, synergist and activator. |
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| funkymuse |
| Friday, May 23, 2008, 3:11am |
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So I'm beginning my research and right away I have discovered that the GT Multimineral is no longer around. So I guess one has to purchase BTD Supp Phytocal.
If one buys the basic BTD pak at $109.95 that includes Polyflora, Deflect, Phytocal and Polyvite. To purchase the GTD Supps including getting the Phytocal it would cost $139.90. So the price for the BTD supps seems to be better.
Now I have to go and compare ingredients and see what all I would be missing out on if I went back to the BTD Vitamins. |
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| funkymuse |
| Friday, May 23, 2008, 3:12am |
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I was told by NAP to take my B polyvite, polyflora, phytocal and deflect, and also add the Explorer catalyst, synergist and activator.
Well that certainly is going to get pricey! |
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| Friday, May 23, 2008, 3:20am |
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you can combine both and if you're on a budget I always recommend half dose...this is what i do...stretch a month supply over two...i would rather get a bit of everything I need then just a large amount of what I can afford. I go through a Basics pack and a Genotype three pack every 60 days
If you're going just with the GT supps and want to add one BT supp...polyflora is the one I would take for it helps you to absorb all the others
If it's the BT supps you want to go with , I would add the Synergist as a GT supp if possible. Most people are devoid of essential fatty acids in the diet
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| funkymuse |
| Friday, May 23, 2008, 4:58pm |
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Well it seems one has to add the Phytocal as well since the Multimineral in the GTD Supps seems to have disappeared.  |
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| Friday, May 23, 2008, 11:38pm |
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Well it seems one has to add the Phytocal as well since the Multimineral in the GTD Supps seems to have disappeared. 
it was too much redundancy...the MM for Genotype was nothing special...it was toned down |
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| Saturday, May 24, 2008, 2:24pm |
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I'm still taking the Polyflora and pylora. I may try the GTD supplements later. These seem to be working good right now though. |
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| funkymuse |
| Saturday, May 24, 2008, 2:29pm |
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Well it seems if I go back to the BTD supp's which it looks as if I'm leaning that way because you get much more bang for your buck as far as how much of each supp is included, I will have to supplement with the following:
Additional Vit. A since most books recommend much more than the 5500 IU in the BTD Supp and the 312.5 IU in the GTD supp. Especially for women in perimenopause.
Additional Vit. C for the same reasons. Very low amounts in both the BTD and GTD supps.
Additional Vit. E since BTD Supp has none and the GTD Supp only has 1 IU.
Folate since the BTD Supp has none.
I suppose there are some other things I might have to add that both supplements are very low in but I'm hoping to get my additional amounts from the foods we eat.
When I had a Supplement Level Blood test done, which was when I was taking all 4 of the BTD Supp (basic pack) - all of the supp. levels in my blood were good except for the Antioxident levels. They were very low and showed cause for concern.
As far as taking these vitamins I've always taken the full dose M-W-F and on T-Thur taken half of the recommended full dose and on weekends we take a break from them.
And when doing that with the BTD supp's it makes more sense since they have more dosage amounts of most of the supp's in comparison to the GTD supps.
I'd sure be interested to read about what other supplements others are supplementing their basic GTD or BTD supp's with.
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| Saturday, May 24, 2008, 3:58pm |
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fem-balance worked great for me!  |
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| funkymuse |
| Saturday, May 24, 2008, 4:38pm |
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fem-balance worked great for me! 
I looked at that one and it seems to have low amounts of the recommended protocol amounts for excess estrogen. Plus it has other things in it I am not interested in taking at this time...but thanks! I'm more interested in attempting to find a good full blown multi-vit and multi-min for myself and my hubby that won't cost me an arm and leg but gets us what we need. Impossible? maybe!!!  |
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those in the GT 5 pack are excellent, and you can purchase them separately. |
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| Saturday, May 24, 2008, 5:00pm |
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I was told by NAP to take my B polyvite, polyflora, phytocal and deflect, and also add the Explorer catalyst, synergist and activator.
I do the same thing. I’m on the BTD Club 4 plan. It’s cheaper and you get perks like books, tea, or coupons every so often. I wish they had a Club 7 so I could automatically get both my BTD and GTD supplements at the same time. In addition, I get Attentia and Connectivar. I used to get Occubright but they discontinued it. I haven’t been able to find one supplement to match that that I like yet but I’m trying. Those I get every month along with Genova skin cream. I get Proberry and Bromelain on an as-needed basis. Sometimes I get other things if I think I need them. I just tried the BTD Protein Powder for the 1st time last month. NOW brand is less expensive and tastes better, but I figure Dr. D knows what is good so I’ll alternate them. In the long run it is cheaper to eat right and sup right then to spend the money on medical bills and prescriptions. |
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| Saturday, May 24, 2008, 5:39pm |
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those in the GT 5 pack are excellent, and you can purchase them separately.
Not any more! Genotype store appears to be gone (it looks like an attempt was made to redirect people from therr to the old NAP store-but they do not get to the NAP site because the link is bad). NAP no longer lists 5 packs or 7 packs. Genotype Multiminerals are gone entirely. Genotype Multivitamins are still available. I took mikeo's comments above to indicate that this is not a site glitch->but an intentional decision to drop this product and instead have people use the Phytocal product tailored to their bloodtype. The Phytocal specific to a blood type should better serve most people's needs than the GenoType multimineral which was the same for all types. |
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| Saturday, May 24, 2008, 8:06pm |
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The GTD multi is still there. http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=GTMULTI%2DVI've never taken more then a multi vitamin off and on over the years so all these sups seem a little overwhelming to me. I ordered two of the Explorer sups and also have the Deflect. I'm only taking half doses right now because of the cost. I figure a little is better then none  |
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| Saturday, May 24, 2008, 8:56pm |
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The multivitamin is still there. But the multimineral is not!! At least I cannot find it. While the multivitamin contains some minerals it was a different product than the multimineral. |
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Lola |
| Saturday, May 24, 2008, 9:01pm |
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I just recieved all 5!! multi minerals, multivitamins and the three GT activator, synergist and catalyst.....guess I was lucky! |
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My Techer daughter has struggled with inner ear itch for years. She thinks that the 3 GTD supplements have made a difference . She finished them and the itch has increased. I just broke open the piggy bank and bought 3 more months worth. Anyone know which item in them might be helping? I think she will have to take them once a day rather then twice due to the expense. |
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compare the ingredients to her diamonds..... you might come up with something... |
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| Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 1:12am |
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if you go to your genotype at NAP it will suggest what BTD supplements are synergistic with genotype supps |
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| funkymuse |
| Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 1:24am |
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We are back on BTD supps full blown. The basic 4 pack. I quit taking the additional Hunter supps and when I did, my breast pain went away. Does anyone know if there is something in them that would increase estrogen in a sensitive individual and/or affect hormones? |
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We are back on BTD supps full blown. The basic 4 pack. I quit taking the additional Hunter supps and when I did, my breast pain went away. Does anyone know if there is something in them that would increase estrogen in a sensitive individual and/or affect hormones?
It's odd you would say this because although I'm not your Genotype, when I began the Warrior supplements, I had non stop headaches. Now I notice that my ankles are getting swollen from something in the formulas. I've tried days without taking the Warrior formulas and the ankle swelling goes away. I retain fluid on the Warrior supplements and I also feel it's altering my hormonal balance in a negative way. I'm pretty sure it's the SOY in the Catalyst Warrior formula. Soy isoflavones are too estrogenic for me and not something my body tolerates very well. |
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| Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 8:36pm |
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I received the Nomad synergist last week. I've taken it twice. Ioo soon to tell any difference. However, after the first one (I took it in the afternoon) I felt very heavy and tired.
I took the second the night before last. I felt good all day yesterday. |
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Gor blimey, am I the only one not taking NAP supps? After I take my thyroid med. my small iron supplement, my calcium supp. my vit c and a little gluc/chon. that's enough for me!! |
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