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Raquel
Tuesday, September 23, 2008, 6:05pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Raquel, I already take several supplements, and the cost adds up! .


Drive I know, you love your L-Arginine!!!!

at least, try to added Magnesium Citrate....itīs not expensive  

sorry if I'm saying  the same post or 'advises'  that you've reading in this forum before  


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at least, try to added Magnesium Citrate....itīs not expensive  

I do, plus a multivitamin, calcium citrate, l-lysine, gingko, Siberian ginseng, Korean ginseng, schizandra, methyl B12, chlorella, and vitamins C, E, and A.  I think that's everything I take regularly...
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Well, I think that itīs enough...

Do you have a Naturopath?, or you are taking it by yourself??


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It's just me.  I can't afford the Dr. either.
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I do, plus a multivitamin, calcium citrate, l-lysine, gingko, Siberian ginseng, Korean ginseng, schizandra, methyl B12, chlorella, and vitamins C, E, and A.  I think that's everything I take regularly...


Good grief.  You'll have to get a job just to support your supplement habits.


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Mental Clarity increased 100% on GTD for me.  
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Well I kind of hinted to Drea on another thread, but she didn't get it.. Mine's within a couple of days of hers. Thank you ladies!


I'm so sorry, Diana! I'm horrible with hints; if you want me to know something, the best way is to be direct.  


It is not my responsibility to convince anyone of anything.
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Good grief.  You'll have to get a job just to support your supplement habits.

Yeah.   Fortunately, I'm stocked up pretty well for a while.  Especially on arginine!
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I could have sworn I responded in this thread a while back, but I don't see it.  Hm.  Guess that casts some doubt on my 'increased mental clarity' change on the gtd.

Seriously though, everything is working better for me.  Every system in my body has shown a noticable improvement.  And because of that, everything else I do for myself is just more effective...it's a circle of wonderfulness.

Oh, and for me, gtd + frequent smaller meals = HOLY SMOLY! My system feels SO MUCH BETTER!  (a big part of that circle mentioned above )  And, although I did not have weight loss as a motivation when I started, I have had a 'number' in my head for ages about my ideal weight.  Well, I have now surpassed that so need to get a new number *lol*.  I seriously never thought I could weigh this little and still feel good and feel like I was getting stronger.  

Amazing these ideas about ourselves that we carry around and tell ourselved and believe...I love it when something comes along that blows my 'story' out of the water and leaves room for me to discover my truth.  


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I've got more to add now.  I've noticed for a few days now that I'm back on BTD that I'm not as hungry, and that I tolerate being hungry better.  Sounds like blood sugar issues were coming back a little on GTD.  Once again, I'm blaming the fruit!
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With the blood sugar issues, perhaps you are a gatherer? The gatherer diet is the low-gi one I think...  
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drive55 are you eating some grains black dots on GTD spelt products?


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drive half of mine...I wouldn't do the ginko, you are just too young for that but merely the bacopa or the so called Brahmi .....and yep I'm sure that you are supersensitive on your behalfs, right ....and hear on your belly talkins


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Add me to the list.  My joint pain left on the btd and came back on the gtd.  It is a little better now than when I first made the switch, but I am missing the mental clarity and energy that the btd gave me.

Oh my gosh!  I have been feeling the pains but especially the brain fog and lack of mental clarity for a few weeks now and my over-imaginative mind thought that I had developed a chronic systemic illness! ....but now that I have read this I am hoping that it is part of detoxing.  Does anyone else think this?  How long have others had these symptoms....?  


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Funny I keep thinking I have Fibromyalgia. This is what happened to me recently..

A week ago I attened a conference on medical pain management. It was all day so they fed us lunch. It is the traditional fare for my work place, sandwiches tuna, turkey, ham and chicken
I knew in advance I was going to eat whatever they provided. Bringing your own lunch in this environment would be very odd. So I took the cowards route.
  I ate half of a chicken salad sanwich and half a tuna, I even indulged in one chocolate chip cookie.
My joints bothered me for 4 days after eating this food. I am not sure what part of it was the most offensive to my body. Maybe the chicken maybe the whole wheat bread, or even the mayo. I suspect that one item potentiated the other.
I am glad to be back to my GTD, it took 4 days for my body to get rid of the food.

The acheyness is gone and I will think twice before I indulge in such food again.





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With the blood sugar issues, perhaps you are a gatherer? The gatherer diet is the low-gi one I think...  

I considered that, and it's remotely possible.  I reread the Gatherer info.  Some of it matches up (because I'm a nonnie), some is totally wrong (because I'm skinny and have never had food or dieting issues).  My finger lengths would be the deciding factor between Nomad and Gatherer, and they are the least clear measurement of all.  I fit the Nomad profile well, but I do better with low-GI foods.

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drive55 are you eating some grains black dots on GTD spelt products?

Nope, I'm gluten free (except for a little bit of bread every Sunday at church) since January.

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I wouldn't do the ginko, you are just too young for that.....and hear on your belly talkins

Yes I did hear it!  I think I could do fine without the gingko, but my memory has never been good, AND both grandmothers had dementia, so maybe it's good prevention.
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drive55 I agree with Isa, you are younger for ginko.

I've looked some similar case (type B) like you at my work (I sent you a PM about it) and NP usually recommemded first a 'detoxification liver' with dandelion and Deflect. Did you try it when you start on BTD and before taking all those supplem.?


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drive,
You mentioned honeydew melon as being a superfood for Nomads.  I could not find it on my list at all.

And regarding melons, I do not, not, not do well with any melons, whether cantaloupe, watermelon or any of them.  I feel totally ill when I eat them, so they are not a part of my Nomad diet.  But I feel GREAT on the Nomad diet.

I must say, however, that it took a lot of patience and some time.  I'd say that for at least 6 months, I had an increase in body aches and pains and a lot of emotional storms.  Suddenly, I broke through some transition, and feel that I have dropped 10 years in my age.

I also wanted to add that there is a noticeable lack of magnesium in your supplements, Drive.  It is an inexpensive supplement, and is an important part of the mineral balance.



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drive,
You mentioned honeydew melon as being a superfood for Nomads.  I could not find it on my list at all.


I see Cantaloupe, Musk and Persian melon as Superfoods...

Bitter melon is toxin.

Other melons must be neutral...

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I must say, however, that it took a lot of patience and some time.  I'd say that for at least 6 months, I had an increase in body aches and pains and a lot of emotional storms.  Suddenly, I broke through some transition, and feel that I have dropped 10 years in my age.

I have had an increase in pain, but it is a healing hurt, rather than a hurting hurt...  I know that the detox is happening faster on the GTD than it was on BTD...  This create more "healing crises", but the rewards will be worth it...



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You know, I hadn't thought of that before.  Maybe all this increase of pain a few people are experiencing is actually good.  Maybe if y'all kept with it you'd be like Victoria and come through better in the end.  Maybe the pain is something working its way out.

Then again, Drive, maybe you should try the Gatherer diet for a few weeks and see how you feel.

DH can't eat watermelon.  He said he'll wake up shaking in the morning.  He can eat cantaloupe without any trouble.


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Nope, I'm gluten free (except for a little bit of bread every Sunday at church) since January.




Ha... this has become your thread Drive!  

on the bread thing... are you catholic?
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You know, I hadn't thought of that before.  Maybe all this increase of pain a few people are experiencing is actually good.  Maybe if y'all kept with it you'd be like Victoria and come through better in the end.  Maybe the pain is something working its way out.
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I sure am hoping this is the case Ribbit.  I was in such pain today it was horrid.  
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Hey, I understand.  I just went through a pretty rough week myself.  I'm finally pulling out of it.

Drive is a Mormon.

I am not Catholic, but we have Communion every week too.  But we do it as a full meal like they did in the New Testament, not just bread and wine.


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drive,
You mentioned honeydew melon as being a superfood for Nomads.  I could not find it on my list at all.

I stand corrected, they are a neutral.  Maybe I was confusing them with one of the other listed melons.  At any rate, cantaloupe and honeydew are off-limits for me.  I've never noticed any problem with watermelon (which I love!).  I'd like to try some of the other melons, out of curiosity.

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I'd say that for at least 6 months, I had an increase in body aches and pains and a lot of emotional storms.  Suddenly, I broke through some transition, and feel that I have dropped 10 years in my age.

I have integrated some of the Nomad diet into what I'm doing, so I hope I can still get some of those benefits, even if it takes longer to get there.  I'm just not ready to deal with such a sustained, intense "healing crisis" just yet.

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I also wanted to add that there is a noticeable lack of magnesium in your supplements, Drive.  It is an inexpensive supplement, and is an important part of the mineral balance.

Oops, I forgot to list it.  I take magnesium citrate nightly.

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Ha... this has become your thread Drive!  

on the bread thing... are you catholic?

Sorry, it seems I have hijacked it.   I'm a latter-day saint (aka Mormon), and we take bread and water for Sacrament, which is the Lord's Supper.

Perhaps there were just too many things coming together at once for me to handle GTD at this time.  My main concern has to be maintaining a level of wellness that enables me to be functional.  Between the frequent moves, physically intense job, LOSS of said job, concerns about my next steps, and anticipation of moving yet again, my life is already shaken up pretty thoroughly atm.  GTD was just too much.

I am impressed at how many of you are encouraging me to try it again; that says a lot!  Maybe I can ease into it later (instead of diving in like I did last time) once more things in my life have settled down, and I've repaired my health's foundation.
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