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Thursday, October 2, 2008, 2:27pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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It is so good to hear others' honest experiences.  I had no pain on BTD and terrible pain on GTD....I was about to give up when one day I noticed that the pain moved, yes moved!  It did not get any better or worse but was in a different spot....so I persevered.  Then I noticed the brain fog and inability to concentrate and some short term memory problems.  This really, really scared me because I am watching my father deteriorate with dementia.  My doctor offered to order a brain scan which I haven't had yet.

My worst day was listening to my two excited teens talking fast and I couldn't take in everything they were saying.....that night I cried.

Things have been a little better but I have a long way to go....I hope and pray that my cells are detoxing and genes resetting, afterall Dr. D. did say six months for them to reset.

Thanks Victoria
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TJ
Thursday, October 2, 2008, 3:44pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Ok, so I've changed my mind.  (Little surprise to you who've been following the forums for the past year )  I'm going to give the Gatherer diet a go, but I'm also going to continue avoiding everything that I'm supposed to avoid on the B-nonnie diet.  I sure will miss my yogurt and fruit, but at least I still have cottage cheese.  I typed up the Gatherer diet last night, and today I will be making the B-nonnie modifications to the list.  I still have fruits and veggies left that are black dots or toxins, so once those are all used up, I will be starting in earnest.

Because the Gatherer diet is mostly low-GI, I have great hopes that it will whip my candida into submission in a way the Nomad diet couldn't.
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Raquel
Thursday, October 2, 2008, 4:34pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Drive are you still with Candida ????

dou you know this:

http://www.suzannes.com/allnatfor90c.html


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Lola
Thursday, October 2, 2008, 4:41pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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the yeast fungus protocol is BT specific
and has been helping many.....but as everything in life, we have to help ourselves at the same time, for things to work out the way we want them to.


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Lola
Thursday, October 2, 2008, 4:48pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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hope GT2 will be the right fit for you!

were you not measured as a nomad before?


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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Ribbit
Thursday, October 2, 2008, 5:24pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Quoted from TJ
Ok, so I've changed my mind.  (Little surprise to you who've been following the forums for the past year )  .


lol!  You're such a B.


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Thursday, October 2, 2008, 5:43pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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There seem to be very few type B Gatherers, but my daughter is one:  
B non-secretor!  While she was very resistant to change from her beloved B nonnie food lists, she has never felt better in her life than she does on the Gatherer diet.  She loves it, and loves the way she feels even more!



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Let me not pass you by in quest
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TJ
Thursday, October 2, 2008, 7:52pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Quoted from Lola
hope GT2 will be the right fit for you!

were you not measured as a nomad before?

Well, yes, I measured as a Nomad.  BUT, my finger measurements were the fuzziest on them all.  I clearly have a longer torso and longer upper leg, so fingers are the deciding factor.  If my ring finger is longer on one hand and my index finger is longer on the other, I'm a Gatherer.  My finger length differences were only 2 mm for both hands, which is easily within MY margin of error.

Quoted from Victoria
There seem to be very few type B Gatherers, but my daughter is one:  
B non-secretor!  While she was very resistant to change from her beloved B nonnie food lists, she has never felt better in her life than she does on the Gatherer diet.  She loves it, and loves the way she feels even more!

That's reassuring.  It's just so weird, I have the Nomad fatigue problems, the Nomad fingerprints, and the Nomad personality, more or less.  I'm slightly above average height, and very slender.

On the other hand, even though you can see veins and tendons on my hands and arms, I don't have long, bony hands or that hard, wirey look many skinny men have, so maybe that counts as "padded".

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TJ  -  Thursday, October 2, 2008, 7:53pm
added: I finished my modified list, and there weren't many changes to make.  Makes me feel better about GT already!
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Thursday, October 2, 2008, 8:16pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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gatherers do not necessarily have to be padded.....
we do gather all kinds of stuff though!
like Don, he turned out being a gatherer, as well, and not padded at all!


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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Thursday, October 2, 2008, 8:36pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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So, Drive, do you gather things?  Or just move them around?


ISTJ, BTD since 5/05.  Battling chronic Lyme disease since ~1985.

"Everything is permissible for me, but not everything is beneficial..."  I Corinthians 6:12

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I've only been 90 - 99%  compliant for about 7 weeks now so I guess I'm still detoxing.       

I've been kind of going crazy in my mind trying to figure out why I still ache all over at times or have bad indigestion or have brain fog, bad BM's, etc., etc., but the symptoms come and go.

I think the most noticable things have been that some days I have happy energy that is off the hook and then other days I'm crashed (Hunter tendencies?).  

I can only attempt to atribute some of the aches and pains to the weather changes affecting my osteoarthritis which is in my neck and has not been confirmed in my thumb joints (but they hurt like mad at times but the xrays showed nothing - anybody have this?)

Oh and the other thing would be an upset gut... which I know can cause full body inflammation, right?

So how long does detox take?!


I think all of these symptoms may be detox...  I've had them all, and probably more!

I was on BTD for 2 years and now GTD since early Jan. and am still detoxing and healing, so the best answer to "How long" may be "Until it is finished".  Some may take that as a smart alek answer, but I say it in all honesty because each of us has eaten differently, had different accidents and illnesses, taken different remedies (prescription and non), etc.  All of this effects how much toxin was stored in the body and how healthy the body (organs individually and systems as a whole) was when you started the diet...  The detox process can also be influenced by the amount of help you have in determining what systems are sick and how to best heal them...


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Thursday, October 2, 2008, 10:28pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Quoted from Ribbit
So, Drive, do you gather things?  Or just move them around?

I seem to move them around a lot more.
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So the question is, could you be a Gatherer if your stuff is nomadic?


ISTJ, BTD since 5/05.  Battling chronic Lyme disease since ~1985.

"Everything is permissible for me, but not everything is beneficial..."  I Corinthians 6:12

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Friday, October 3, 2008, 3:57am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Hey Ribbit, I'm a Gatherer who loves to move stuff around.  Always finding better ways to arrange things or just because I like to have some change.  I feel I could be quite nomadic at times, given the chance  


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I think I'm a Nomad who just needs a low-GI diet.  I haven't measured any of my possessions to determine their GTs.
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Friday, October 3, 2008, 11:25am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Well Drive, you are doing your own SWAMI


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Friday, October 3, 2008, 3:22pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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You sure seem like a Nomad, Drive.  And we all need to tweak our diets; Individuality, after all!

Many of us do that, depending on what our own particular body's got going on.  There are a number of things on the allowed list that I know I'm better off without eating.

Are you going to try eating the Nomad diet, but being your own Swami?  



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Let me not pass you by in quest
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Nope, I'm going to try the Gatherer diet.  I'm also going to stay away from the few B-nonnie avoids that aren't dots or toxins on GT2 (cinnamon goes from diamond to toxin, for example).  If the Gatherer diet seems to work well for me, I might drop the B-nonnie avoids.  As much as I feel like a Nomad, this GT2 diet is looking better and better the more I think about it!
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