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slyparrot
Monday, September 29, 2008, 5:13am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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It sounds like Shells and I are in the same exploring boat!  I have eased the pain and mental fog by adding some black dot foods into my diet.  Almost off of them were O nonnie bennies and I feel sooooo much better.  My energy came back too... too much.  Yes, too much energy!  LoL!  So I balanced it all out by the amount of black dots vs diamonds/supers.  There seems to be a sweet spot in ratio.  

Try it Shells!  Let me know if it works for you too.


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slyparrot, I just have to do something, as I am not functioning properly at work at the moment and feel quite down  

I was thinking of adding back bananas and eggs as I don't have access to the unusual eggs that are superfoods.  Which black dots do you find help?    
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Mangos, blueberries, avocados, spinach, almond butter and yogurt for dot foods. They help balance me out.  

Lamb, quail eggs, white fish, turkey, carob, artichoke, basmati rice, quinoa, lentils, mozzarella, apples, apple juice, rose hip tea, acai berry juice and raspberries for staples. I ate more veggies on the btd but have not been veggie hungry lately.  Had some broccoli, daikon radish and bok choy. Love cilantro, garlic, ginger and thyme!

I am fortunate that Las Vegas has International grocery markets and a pretty big "china town."  I have tried quail eggs, paneer cheese, cherimoya, jack fruit, dragon fruit and some other interesting things. Goose eggs are hard to find.  Overall, I am having fun trying out new foods.

Does anyone know why rice milk is bad when rice itself is so good in the explorer diet?  I need to replace hemp milk.  Oh, how I miss hemp milk.  


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Mmmmmm.....food for thought!  I really do miss blueberry & banana smoothies and spinach omelettes and remember the energy rush afterwards  

I have replaced almond butter with macadamia butter - much nicer and a superfood.

Thanks for the tips....I'll do a little trial-and-error  
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I believe I am correct in this, slyparrot . . rice milk can be homemade, and it would not be bad, since you have control of the ingredients.  It is impossible to buy a simple rice milk that just contains rice and pure water.



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slyparrot
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Thanks Victoria!  Can't wait to make some!


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Drive, if your finger measurements are confusing....remember tie goes to the index=gatherer! You might wanna try the gatherer diet....I believe Don was also a lean and fit gatherer.
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I'm still insisting for tha change to Brahmi ....btw...go for a rotations cycle....better ....(some lekker fishoil does the trick as well ).....


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Yess Isa I agree, and BTD nonnie avoids

And also I insist when we start BTD or GTD  NPs usually recommemded first a 'detoxification liver' with dandelion 500mg x 3 daily...
more if there are any sugar, skin, or gluten problems


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I've been taking dandelion tincture off and on for over a year without any change in my skin.


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its better Dandelion Root from Solgar pill 500mg x 3 daily, tinture is soft.
also combined with Deflect (empty stomach)...good to clean too much avoids accumulated before BTD



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Quoted from jayneeo
Drive, if your finger measurements are confusing....remember tie goes to the index=gatherer! You might wanna try the gatherer diet....I believe Don was also a lean and fit gatherer.

Yep, I know.   I think I am going to just continue on my low-GI version of B-nonnie for now.  BUT, I will do some rereading on the Gatherer diet, and see if there are some parts of it I'd like to use.  I do like cottage cheese....
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Oh, yeah, I'm definitely seeing improvements in my appetite.  I was eating myself broke on the Nomad diet, and always hungry, but much better now.
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BUT, I will do some rereading on the Gatherer diet, and see if there are some parts of it I'd like to use.  I do like cottage cheese....

Drive, just a word of caution: My backache got much worse on the gatherer diet. I think dairy (I only ate the superbeneficials) was the main reason.

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Drive, just a word of caution: My backache got much worse on the gatherer diet. I think dairy (I only ate the superbeneficials) was the main reason.

That's understandable, since you're an O.  I eat significant amounts of dairy already, as a B!
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My lower back pain took a turn for the worse this year. I never linked it to the GTD though. Very interesting.
However, my chiropractor/kinesiologist found no structural/muscular problems that would cause my back pain. He put me on a high dosage probiotic and that improved my back pain no end.
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why are there more problems with GTD? it seems like BTD is more refined than GTD. I understand why an O might need to exercise more like an A, etc, etc. from reading The Dadamo Diet by James Dadamo. but the rest, I don't understand. diets according to body type never work for me for some reason. so maybe if someone can explain it to me, I'd appreciate it.
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can you be more specific?

I have never read James Dadamo's book, yet have followe dr D s reommendations since 97, with great results.......always adapting my lifestyle and diet according to his new findings....
but I am very disciplined and compliant, because that s how I chose to be.


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I'm already so excited with the results and I've only been on plan since Sunday!

Lost 2 lbs and I've gone four consecutive days without a stomachache, that is a huge accomplishment for me and my number one goal of starting this, no more pain!

I'm blown away with how well this is working, even though every meal is scary for me coming off such a restricted and repetitve diet before!





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keep up the good work!


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Quoted from BA1984
why are there more problems with GTD? it seems like BTD is more refined than GTD. I understand why an O might need to exercise more like an A, etc, etc. from reading The Dadamo Diet by James Dadamo. but the rest, I don't understand. diets according to body type never work for me for some reason. so maybe if someone can explain it to me, I'd appreciate it.


I don't necessarily agree with the idea that there are more problems with GTD.  The few posts that are saying that are people who have might have experienced a flare up of conditions.  But there are countless others who have not joined in this particular discussion who are beyond thrilled with the benefits of the GTD.

I had an adjustment period of a few months on the GTD, during which time, I felt extremely uncomfortable.  Then my improvements skyrocketed way beyond what I had ever imagined I could achieve.  The GTD for me has been mind-blowing, but it took some patience, and it was well worth the wait for me.

I have dropped about 10 years from my age, and nearly all of the physical complaints of my adult life have just disappeared.  (And I actually loved the BTD!)  I can't speak highly enough of the genotype approach to life.  It takes some persistence and attention to be sure of testing ones self accurately, and it can throw off the success rate if you don't measure carefully.



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Quoted from Victoria


I had an adjustment period of a few months on the GTD, during which time, I felt extremely uncomfortable.  Then my improvements skyrocketed way beyond what I had ever imagined I could achieve.  The GTD for me has been mind-blowing, but it took some patience, and it was well worth the wait for me.

This is what I am hoping will happen with myself.  Being of the Explorer G/T which has problems detoxing, these symptoms could very well be an extreme clean out (including the brain) and eventually leave a smooth running system  
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I'm mostly back to BTD too.  GTD did help my vision improve a bit, and made my skin less dry, but lately I feel like I need some of the O-non beneficials.  They're mostly black dots, so maybe that makes me a black-dot gatherer (minus casein, barley and oats).  Or maybe I'm an O-non plus a bunch of neutral gatherer superfoods, minus most rice.

Oh, I also lost weight really well on the Gatherer plan, but weight loss isn't my primary objective at the moment...immunity is.  I can lose weight pretty well on the O-non plan.

There's a chance I may be able to visit D'Adamo's clinic and get a personalized plan put together.  My husband works fairly often in New Jersey now, so if I tag along I can hop over to CT.


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It makes sense to me that the greatest degree of change that we are expecting from our bodies may be met with the greatest degree of discomfort and bumpy roads for a while.  It takes us a long time to get in the states that we are in.  Our bodies adapt to the unbalanced situations, for the sake of survival.

When we make a drastic change, it takes a while to back out of the place that our body is starting from.  

I first experienced a great increase in the amount of generalized pain and discomfort, followed by a gradual diminishing of pain, followed by a stunning disappearance of pain.



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It makes sense to me that the greatest degree of change that we are expecting from our bodies may be met with the greatest degree of discomfort and bumpy roads for a while.  It takes us a long time to get in the states that we are in.  Our bodies adapt to the unbalanced situations, for the sake of survival.

When we make a drastic change, it takes a while to back out of the place that our body is starting from.  

I first experienced a great increase in the amount of generalized pain and discomfort, followed by a gradual diminishing of pain, followed by a stunning disappearance of pain.


I'm so excited to hear your testimony Victoria. Gives me hope.  2 months now on the GTD and going through all the increased pain stuff and very slow weight loss but hanging in there.  I'm working on decreasing all black dots for awhile to see how I respond.  

BUT my  mental clarity is fantastic and my cravings nil.  One huge thing I'm dealing with is the increased adrenaline affect (Hunter trait), from the good diet, which causes me to be pretty edgy.  I'm working with getting the right balance of Holy Basil going.

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