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Peppermint Twist
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Thought of posting this in "Teaching Moments", but not sure if that forum is just for BTD-related teaching moments or wuh.  So, better safe than sorry, I'm posting it here in GTD Central.

It seems this author didn't even get her genotype straight before pronouncing judgement on the diet (she deduced that she is a Gatherer, yet in the "diary" section of her piece, she notes that her lower legs are LONGER than her upper legs:   ).

My fave line from the piece is this (although there were so many to chose from):  "If people ate a so-called toxic food, they wouldn't become ill or sick or even gain a large amount of weight."

Well, I could eat a piece of plastic right here and right now and probably not become ill or sick--not ill OR sick, mind you, neither one *lol*--or gain any weight.  In fact, plastic has no calories, far as I can discern.  Probably it's a good weight-loss food because it probably makes you burn more calories to process it out than it packs onto you.  Yet no one could accurately argue that eating plastic is not toxic if done over the long haul, or that eating plastic is a better idea for me than eating a piece of organic turkey.  Just because you don't necessarily drop dead on the spot from eating something, doesn't mean that it is among your ideal food choices, not discernable from any other food in terms of value to you.  It doesn't mean that it isn't, in fact, toxic to you.

Oy vey.  

http://www.thestar.com/living/Health/article/408806


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P.S.  AND she bemoans the fact that she has to keep referring to book to see if meal she is making contains superfoods or TTAs and it takes too long and waaaaaaaaaaah!  After one day, she is abandoning it on those grounds!

News flash:  ANY diet on planet earth is going to involve you taking a certain period of time, commonly referred to as a "learning curve", to actually FAMILIARIZE yourself with what foods are recommended and which ones aren't, etc.  Heck, I remember going on Weight Watchers years ago and it was like a massive undertaking (this was with their classic, now-defunct, "Selection Plan") to plan out the entire week's menu, shop for everything, figure out how many exchanges or whatever they were called of protein and how many of this and how many of that I had in each meal and then for each day, weigh and measure everything precisely, etc.  But again, ANY diet, even the easiest ones to follow in practice, require the user to:

1.  Read the diet.
2.  Learn it.
3.  Do it.

If she is going to chuck it to the four winds because:  "OMG times 10! I'm so confused! Keep having to look in book to see whether recipe I want to make for dinner contains any Gatherer super or toxic foods.", then you know what, honey, you are not suitable material for following any diet.  I mean, God forbid you have to refer to the book on Day One!!!  Oh, the horror.  THE HORROR!  Who can blame you for chucking it after that horrendous experience?  "OMG times 10!"  I hope you really did get your genotype wrong and aren't a Gatherer, because you aren't well suited to contend with a life-long weight challenge, that is fo sho.


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Find out the address for letters to the editor and write them..

Picture says much more than the article. Looks like a lot of healthy foods. Pans anything from a naturopathic physician.

That's balance journalism.


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I just emailed the Editor and the so called health reporter
GRRRRRRR.
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Good grief!  

I don't care what the so called "experts" say. This is the only eating plan that has done me any good. So I'm sticking with it  

Thanks, Dr. D, for giving me the information I needed to finally get my health back  



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These types of reviews are always fronted behind a screen composed of the various dietetic associations. The idea of this type of review is to discourage people from ever reading the book, since once most people do open it they would be inclined to form their own opinions. The fact that they single out the naturopathic angle is a clear sign that there is professional turf battling going on.


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I don't understand why the dietetic associations would want to attack you. Your diet plans encompass all the healthy diets...There's low-carb,(O) low fat vegetarian (A) and weight watcher type.. or south beach (B).  

This is so odd, you would think they'd want you to publish books on a plan that helps everyone's tastes in diet plans..I really don't get why they're attacking you like that.  
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the more they attack the stronger you get!!
it s a win win situation!!
besides, Body typing is another existing trend......
she couldn t even get the title right!!!


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I don't understand why the dietetic associations would want to attack you. Your diet plans encompass all the healthy diets...There's low-carb,(O) low fat vegetarian (A) and weight watcher type.. or south beach (B).  

This is so odd, you would think they'd want you to publish books on a plan that helps everyone's tastes in diet plans..I really don't get why they're attacking you like that.  

Unfortunately, outrageously, and frighteningly, most of the major dietetic associations are totally in corporate bed with Big Agribiz, as they are heavily funded by giants that actually represent a massive conflict of interest with their goal of being purely about educating on, and promoting, healthy diets.  Thus the "information" they put out is utterly corrupt and suspect to the max.  For example, the American Dietetic Association is sponsored by Coca-Cola (hello: conflict of interest!  JUNK FOOD!), Glaxo-Smith-Kline (hello:  conflict of interest!  BIG PHARMA, wants us all sick so they can sell us meds!), Pepsico (!), Unilever (Uber Evil!  They ruined Breyer's Mint Chip--they must be stopped!) General Mills (Wheat pushers!  Corn syrup ALERT!), Kelloggs (Ditto!), etc.  See this link if you find that to be just too incredible to believe (btw, ironically, the link is called "eatright"--ha!):

http://www.eatright.org/cps/rde/xchg/ada/hs.xsl/home_10575_ENU_HTML.htm



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OH! I never realized the Junk Food giants were the ones..   How horrible..
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I wrote her a note, that once she s through trashing and doing what she was asked to do by her 'dietetic associations'.....''you might want to give this diet a serious try, your gut will thank you for it!''

hope she gets the message!

also added:
''There s very little you can do to discourage people from reading the book, in fact, articles like yours only help promote the book and the science behind it, cause people in general are inclined to form their own opinion !!''


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Quoted from 815
OH! I never realized the Junk Food giants were the ones..   How horrible..

Isn't it?  It is almost too incredible to believe that the ADA can even have that list of corporate sponsors and still be taken seriously as an organization that is purely about educating on a healthy diet, on behalf of those they are educating.  It is obvious that quite the opposite is true:  they exist to push corn syrup, wheat and drugs to the consuming public, otherwise known as their "marks".  They do this like a drug dealer who pushes drugs on behalf of the sponsoring cartel.

Sad, but true.



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Find out the address for letters to the editor and write them..

Done:

Letter to the editor re "Body Typing is Unproven Science"

I think that Ms. Ogilvies article on The GenoType Diet is extremely unfair and inaccurate, and really does your readers a disservice, as it basically trashes and dismisses a diet that is very customized, cutting edge and healthy.  The author states that she abandoned the diet after one day becausehorror upon horrorsshe actually had to refer to the book to see which foods are recommended for her type and which arent.  Correct me if Im wrong, but isnt it the case with ANY diet plan that the user thereof would first have to familiar her or himself with the diet itself?  If having to refer to the book on Day One is too much for her, then I think we have a user problem, not a problem with the diet itself.  Beyond that, the author has typed herself incorrectly.  I am a Gatherer myself and thus I know that if her lower legs are LONGER than her upper legs, she isnt a Gatherer.  But beyond all that, the main gripe I have with the article is that it dismisses this truly outstanding and excellent diet out of hand and repeatedly states that there is no science behind it.  Anyone who actually reads the well-written, complex-yet-clearly-described concepts laid out in the book will see that indeed this is a scientifically elegant plan, customized to the individual to an exquisite degree, and it involves whole, pure, deeply nourishing foods that will optimize the health of the person who is able to actually withstand the rigors of having to refer to the book and familiarize her or himself with the diet.  In short, the science is sound, the diet is revitalizing and health-bestowing, and I hope the public will judge for themselves instead of going by the instantaneous dismissal put forth in the article.



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Bingo.


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Quoted from Lola
I wrote her a note, that once she s through trashing and doing what she was asked to do by her 'dietetic associations'.....''you might want to give this diet a serious try, your gut will thank you for it!''

Lola, it would be good if you wrote to the editor, too, because if the editor gets enough letters from the likes of us, perhaps s/he will publish one, several or all of them, and thus we can counteract this yahoo's bogus review with some truthful PR on the GTD!

Fight da powa!

Editor e-mail:  lettertoed@thestar.ca



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I agree. If you have been helped by these findings, this is the type of stuff you do to 'pay it back'.

If not, the baddies win.


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This is a great link to reread.  After having breast cancer, I tried very hard for several years to do the McDougall diet.  Whenever I increase animal fat, as I did when I went on the Hunter diet, I get a little nervous. This reassured me that I'm still on the right track with the GTD/BTD.
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Bingo.




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More Humbug.


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I don't understand why the dietetic associations would want to attack you. Your diet plans encompass all the healthy diets...There's low-carb,(O) low fat vegetarian (A) and weight watcher type.. or south beach (B).  

This is so odd, you would think they'd want you to publish books on a plan that helps everyone's tastes in diet plans..I really don't get why they're attacking you like that.  


I went on the WW point diet a few years ago because I was in sort of a rut and decided that might give me the nudge I needed to get back on track. (I was eating too much chicken, but I didn't know that until GTD came along!) I stayed completely on the BTD while I was counting points. Lost over 12 pounds, too, in no time. There wasn't any problem at all - just as you say! One reason I lost so fast may have simply been because I was limiting the amount of chicken I was eating to keep my points down.

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done!
sent a copy to the editor, too.
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Megan Ogilvie,
'Vie' means life! And your article on the GTD states the complete opposite!!


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done!

Bueno!

Anyone else who feels fired up, take that fire and run with it all the way to zapping off a fabulous letter to that editor.  When she or he is inundated by the righteous cyberwrath of GTDers from all over the world, s/he will have no choice but to publish some of our letters, and then the world will know the truth!  First the Toronto Star readers, then the WORLD will know this:  the GTD rules.*

* Along with its co-ruler, the BTD.  BTD and GTD are up HERE, everything else is down here.





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Thanks Dr. D., very eye opening.  
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Edna,
That was excellent! A Gatherer was needed to accurately rebuff her. Of course my letter was better...JUST KIDDING!
I have a few years of reading to catch up on from Dr. D.
Spring, I hear ya'. I got hypoglycemic, dizzy and migraines on the weight watchers points plan.
  I just received a response from the editors and they want my contact information. At least I know it got there!!

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Edna,
That was excellent! A Gatherer was needed to accurately rebuff her. Of course my letter was better...JUST KIDDING!

I'm glad you wrote a letter, too!  

I say we inundate the Toronto Star editor's virtual in-box with a plethora of GTD-lovin' e-mails!

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I went on the WW point diet a few years ago because I was in sort of a rut and decided that might give me the nudge I needed to get back on track. (I was eating too much chicken, but I didn't know that until GTD came along!) I stayed completely on the BTD while I was counting points. Lost over 12 pounds, too, in no time. There wasn't any problem at all - just as you say! One reason I lost so fast may have simply been because I was limiting the amount of chicken I was eating to keep my points down.


Hi Spring!
Just want to back up your findings on dropping chicken.. it has been a boon to me too, not in weight terms (yet) but in gut pain removal. I read somewhere (here? that chicken can inflame the bile duct, and it was certainly the case for me.




Eating half and exercising double.
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This is the woman you'd also want to contact....http://www.menuformovement.com
(Stefanie Shalagan)

She's the "so called" expert that this health reporter Megan Olgivie, is quoting:

"EXPERT OPINION: There is no scientific evidence, whatsoever, to back up D'Adamo's plan, says registered dietitian Stefanie Shalagan"

Can you even fathom that a registered dietician is qualified to analyze the work of Dr. D????

Truly unbelievable!


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"EXPERT OPINION: There is no scientific evidence, whatsoever, to back up D'Adamo's plan, says registered dietitian Stefanie Shalagan"

Wonder how much THIS "expert" got paid...?  Dietitians think they invented food. Spare me, pleeeeeease!
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Hi Spring!
Just want to back up your findings on dropping chicken.. it has been a boon to me too, not in weight terms (yet) but in gut pain removal. I read somewhere (here? that chicken can inflame the bile duct, and it was certainly the case for me.



I'm so glad you found the source of your pain. I'm sure it was not a problem letting chicken go when you found out what it was doing to you! I will be grateful for the rest of my life that my stomach has finally stopped hurting all the time.
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"EXPERT OPINION: There is no scientific evidence, whatsoever, to back up D'Adamo's plan, says registered dietitian Stefanie Shalagan"

Wonder how much THIS "expert" got paid...?  Dietitians think they invented food. Spare me, pleeeeeease!


This has become the most tiring and least effective method of discrediting the GTD I have ever heard of.

For the last two days I have been writing a paper in my graduate level physiology class on the subject of body detoxification and how complex this subject really is. I wish these people would spare me this tired old excuse and do some real research on the net. It's out there and it has been written by non ND's and ND's who hold a Ph.D. in molecular genetics.

I am really busy, but if any of you guys want to copy and past my comments, then you have my permission to do so


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This is the woman you'd also want to contact....http://www.menuformovement.com
(Stefanie Shalagan)


Done.

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I'm so glad you found the source of your pain. I'm sure it was not a problem letting chicken go when you found out what it was doing to you! I will be grateful for the rest of my life that my stomach has finally stopped hurting all the time.

I used to like chicken, and it was useful to have it as an 'eating out' alternative, but I sure prefer to have no abdominal twinges. I like your name, and sure that it helps you keep young!  




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"Well-balanced and personalized diet''

according to this expert in her website......but trashes GTD! the nerve!


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Dr. D is the competition..that's why.  It's a jungle out there..
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I also got an email confirmation from the editor!
'something s got to give'!


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Watch, 25 years down the road there'll be a big article in the NY Times saying: "Genotype Doc Was Found To Be Right!", Say Experts.

I hope less time than that..
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Watch, 25 years down the road there'll be a big article in the NY Times saying: "Genotype Doc Was Found To Be Right!", Say Experts.

I hope less time than that..

And won't it be nice to claim friendship with him through all the years of travail? Go Peter! ps if anyone offers you a speaking tour down under, please accept it!!!




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and 50 years from now, a study will show a 'notorious longevity rate' in world population of those following GT/BT guidelines versus the rest!!
and we ll all be here to witness this event!


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Here's what I just e-mailed Megan:

Megan,

I was disappointed to read your rather abrupt review of the GenoType Diet.  You seem quick to discredit his research, just like the medical profession has always done with anything ground-breaking they didn't discover themselves.  

If I were to write reviews of new diets I think I would try it a little longer than just one day.  How about giving it a month or two and then see how you would rate it?  I have been on the GenoType Diet for three months now, and was on Dr. D'Adamo's Blood Type Diet for three years before that.  Every single one of my health issues has been addressed by one or the other of the diets.  I do not have a weight issue now.  I do not have hypoglycemia anymore.  I no longer have acne.  I don't have a white coating on my tongue anymore.  My dandruff is gone, my heavy periods are gone, my fibromyalgia and depression are gone.   I am not a scientist.  I simply tried the diet and it worked for me.  I don't need "science" to tell me if a diet is right for me, I need results.  And results are what I have.  I'll take my incredible results over anybody's science any day.

In health,

Leanne Carter


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Quoted Text
You seem quick to discredit his research, just like the medical profession has always done with anything ground-breaking they didn't discover themselves.

excellent line!!


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Perfect, Ribbit!!
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Wonderful, you all!

Newspaper headline in 50 years: 101 yr. old ND still going strong writing & treating patients. Smaller headline: Outlived contemporary critics.
At end of article. Fan club made up of several 110-yr. old ladies, as well as other centenarians. To join, e-mail Haha@dadamo.com

Mrs "T"  [There are several of us that will be 110 in 50 years, DV.]


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Quoted from Mrs T O+
Wonderful, you all!

Newspaper headline in 50 years: 101 yr. old ND still going strong writing & treating patients. Smaller headline: Outlived contemporary critics.
At end of article. Fan club made up of several 110-yr. old ladies, as well as other centenarians. To join, e-mail Haha@dadamo.com

Mrs "T"  [There are several of us that will be 110 in 50 years, DV.]

I'll be 118 year old, but I've only promised my family that I will live another 33 years, anything more seems a little greedy.




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Here's my response from the so-called "expert"

Hello Diana -

Thank you for taking the time to email me.  I can understand your opinion about some of my observations being pre-mature about Dr. D'Adamo's GenoType diet - I do believe that I commented to Megan Olgilvie that this current book read very much like a hypothesis to me that had very plausible reasoning, but had not yet been tested through the use of double blind, randomized controlled trials to have the "scientific proof" that was mentioned in the expert opinion summary.  Unfortunately, not all that is mentioned in media interviews makes it to print!  
While dietitians tend to lean in the direction of the western, evidence-based model of medicine, I am always open to the more naturopathic/homoeopathic view of health, and have had many patients that have benefited from the care of naturopathic doctors.  I do believe that we will see that many of these so-called "natural" remedies will be proven true when put to the test, however, without this proof my personal preference as a practitioner is not to endorse a diet until we can evaluate it's effectiveness on a randomized, representative population.

Many thanks,

Stefanie Shalagan, M.A.N., RD
Registered Dietitian
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I do believe that we will see that many of these so-called "natural" remedies will be proven true when put to the test, however, without this proof my personal preference as a practitioner is not to endorse a diet until we can evaluate it's effectiveness on a randomized, representative population.


what a copout!!




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Quoted from Dr. D


Thanks Dr. D. I forwarded that comment to our "expert". I have to have the last word

Love ya!  
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"Healthy people have the least overt symptoms from eating avoid foods." Dr. D'Adamo
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ATAAAAACK!!! (We need a Warrior Smilie)  
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That big ol', touthy grin does pretty well!
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What a phenomenol recommendation from one dietician to another...

The cost of double-blind studies (and the hypocrysie? of treating one group, while letting the other suffer), is a barrier to many real "scientific" evaluations...  


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Dr D s books are constantly on the best seller lists!
that s proof enough that his school is serving as guidance to many practitioners and healers out there, and thus achieving constant results and recommending the books, and so on!!
it s an avalanche!


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What a phenomenol recommendation from one dietician to another...

The cost of double-blind studies (and the hypocrysie? of treating one group, while letting the other suffer), is a barrier to many real "scientific" evaluations...  


That's exactly what I just did ABJoe. Dr. D gave the link of another RD. Did you see it?
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I just read the woman's review and, to a significant degree, I find her just plain lazy, frivolous, and, even, spoiled in her fundamental attitude.

As I've said before, the only legitimate complaint I believe to exist about the GTD is that it doesn't present itemized rationales for the inclusion of each individual food, as was done with the BTD Encyclopedia... However, even the first ER4YT book didn't go that far in depth, and took time to get there.

Now, with that said, there is an easy justification I can imagine for the itemized rationales not being there:  the fact that many people profess to find all that stuff overwhelming, and just whine that they want only the bottom line... Does the diet work or not.  So I can understand why such exhaustive information may not have been included.  But, apparently, you just can't win with some people.

Also, perhaps Dr. D is trying to keep certain things proprietary, just as Microsoft or any successful business is perfectly well entitled to do, with regard to their valued trade secrets.  In that case, disclosure would be ill-advised.

In many ways, I blame the general disposition of much of the public for the fact that the GTD gave them the bottom line, rather than exhaustive rationales.  Yes, the general rationales were given but, apparently, no matter what D'Adamo does, there will always be certain people who are pre-motivated to find an excuse to smear it.  
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smear it like your bear against the snow!!

planning anything on your BD??


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You remember my birthday???  

Well, I hadn't planned anything for my birthday, actually.  I was just going to play it by ear.

I did find out that a wrongly-imprisoned man named Alton Logan was just released after 26 years of two lawyers keeping the rock-solid evidence of his guilt literally locked in a vault.  So that definitely makes me happy.
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