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 Will GTD ever become mainstream?
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BohemianChris
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I was interested to hear in Dr. D's interview with Drs. Oz and Roizen that they are working on a book on epigenetics and diet and that Dr. Oz wanted to pick Dr. D's brain on some of the specifics.

I'm anxious to know how they will present this info, how broad an audience it will find, and if legitimacy with the medical establish is in the future of BTD/GTD.

Also, since Dr. Oz and Roizen's show is part of Oprah and Friends and Dr. D's been on with them, does that mean Dr. D'Adamo and Oprah are friends now too? Oprah is a good friend to have, just ask Barrack Obama and Eckhardt Tolle.  


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I haven't voted yet.  This is a tough question, because while I believe that the only real health will be attained when these principles are incorporated into the wellness programs of humanity, it requires much more accountability than the majority of people are willing to commit to.
I think physicians will have a hard time devoting themselves to promoting an approach that most of their patients will not be able to stick to.  It's not that the program is hard, just that I think most people are very lazy and habit driven when it comes to eating.

People who have been eating according to Dr. D's teachings for a long period of time, such as a decade, are evidencing a stunning absence of disease and manifesting a level of health that is unheard of in industrialized nations.  In time, it is going to be too obvious to ignore, even for the mainstream.  But people think in terms of diets, such as all the other fads that hit the market and go strong for a few years until it becomes evident what their shortfalls are.  People are going to have to witness the staying power and uncommon success of Dr. D'Adamo programs.



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I do believe Oprah gets a cut on everything she promotes......
there s another guy writing a book on genetics....and who knows how many more will follow......like in everything, it s a dog eat dog world, with freedom written across it s flag.
Bob Afamasaga is next in line for example.....
where are his credentials???.....opportunists is all I can say.

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1206596740/s-0/highlight-Afamasaga/#num0


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Don't get me started on Oprah right now.     

As for the radio interview you reference with Dr. D., I have only listened to part of it so far, a few weeks back, as I have to pick and choose my moments at work, but so far--even though Dr. D. is just getting warmed up--I am very impressed, as always, with his ability to make complex science engaging, understandable and accessible.  I will probably write more about it if I ever get a chance to hear the entire thing.  It is great exposure for the diet, I agree with you.  


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If it becomes mainstream, it probably won't be in our lifetimes. There are many good therapies, but the average person still likes to watch TV & eat junk food!
Now with both parents working in most families, it is difficult to cook good food every day. It is very time consuming.
So, it will be a long time, baby! Thankfully, we know about it & can do our part to tell others.
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I've not responded to the poll, but I couldn't help looking at this thread due to the title.

I kinda can't stand Oprah.  I think she can bring some great stuff to the forefront of people's attention, but somehow (maybe I'm too conservative) I don't think she'd be into the BTD or the GTD... too much personal responsibility.  


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A little off topic - but Oprah is so accepted everywhere. So, to augment my comments on "Little Fishes," yes, there is very little racism(& sexism) today. Oprah is the poster child for that.
I don't have time to watch TV, so I don't see her, but remember that 20 years ago, she was liked & respected.

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Quoted from Olerica
I don't think she'd be into the BTD or the GTD... too much personal responsibility.  


except that there are few people who it would be easier for to follow BTD than her, as she has her own chefs. what a slam dunk!!



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I don't think this will ever become mainstream, but that is also OK.


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Be careful when suggesting Oprah for endorsing anything with how wrapped up in the "New Age" movement that she is, even though she will not admit it.

http://www.crosstalkamerica.com/

Listen to the March 28th and April 4th episodes.  Very informative as to who Oprah really is.
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agendas are everywhere!
take what fits and leave out the superfluous......
knowledge is power!


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I don't think either food plan will become mainstream, but as Dr. D himself says, that's okay. The people who need to find the BTD/GTD, the ones who are ready, will do so. Dr. Christiane Northrup obviously has. During her last visit on Oprah's show she practically endorsed the BTD--you just had to read between the lines. Dr. Oz is also promoting some BTD-like principles.


As for Oprah . . . I have respect for the good things she does. Anyone with that much power at their disposal would have a tough time not being self-indulgent. She keeps people entertained and paying attention, so that when she does slip in worthwhile knowledge they hardly notice they're learning something   


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Dr. Oz is also promoting some BTD-like principles.


and now plans to write a book on GTs!!!
that did come as a surprise to me!


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** this may offend someone, Ihope you will read it through anyway.**
I am not a huge fan of any of the talk shows I find them to be opportunists for the most part. They seem to focus on those things that inflame, titulate, violent and are sometimes down right wrong. They desensitize a people to those things that should be offensive (murder, abuse, etc.) I quit watching most of them because of that, it hurt me to watch them. Ocassionally they will touch on a subject of interest, but it only goes shallow into that subject.
Frankly, I have seen hidden reverse discrimination, in some shows. Especially when they focus on Black History Month. What about our founding fathers? and other smaller less known contributors to science math and education? Reverse discrimination is offensive as is discrimination against any people or their beliefs. I do try to keep in mind that others have a right to their opinion and I do not have to agree, but it does mean I ahve to sit there and watch it everyday or have stuffed down my throat either. I think MOST, not all, Native americans, are examples of a people who have taken the injustice done to them and made themselves a better people. I think the the jewish nation who suffered from many attrocities over the years have also borne those injustice with integrity. I hope that people will see the majority of muslims, not the violent radicalists, hope for peace and are very tolerant. I am currently studying history on my own and reading some old books in order to learn from the past to teach my children so they don't repeat it.


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I don't think either food plan will become mainstream, but as Dr. D himself says, that's okay.



I guess I see the glass half full....
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Sometimes those talk shows get you to do your own research which is great. I don't have time to watch TV, but listen to radio talkers. There have so many personalities, but I can discern the facts (usually). Right now I have Mike Medved on. He is pretty good & gives good explanations.
Chicago may be a big city, but I have found a Michigan station, that is hard to pick up, that has some better talk shows(or same shows on at better times)than we have in this big metropolis!  Can you imagine they took off Bill Bennett & have other, lower grade shows on? Chicago!
Since I am a people person & auitory/verbal, radio makes good company. But we all need discernment all the time.
For diet, I discern we got the top guns at BTDland.
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I voted no even though I really wish it were yes.

As for Oprah, I don’t watch her show, but she always pops up on the news here in Chicago.


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I kinda can't stand Oprah.  I think she can bring some great stuff to the forefront of people's attention, but somehow (maybe I'm too conservative) I don't think she'd be into the BTD or the GTD... too much personal responsibility.  

1.  I'm a complete and total liberal and I kinda can't stand Oprah either, fyi.  Maybe not standing Oprah is the one thing that could unite liberals and conservatives *lol*!  I mean, maybe saying I "can't stand" her is too strong, but I definitely think she is massively overrated in most ways (except as a businesswoman--she definitely is extraordinary in that way) and highly annoying in yet more ways.

2.  btw, conservatives don't have an exclusive lock on valuing "personal responsibility".  



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I don't think this will ever become mainstream, but that is also OK.

I find that I usually prefer an alternative brook to the main stream.



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I agree.

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Quoted from Peppermint Twist

1.  I'm a complete and total liberal and I kinda can't stand Oprah either, fyi.  Maybe not standing Oprah is the one thing that could unite liberals and conservatives *lol*!  I mean, maybe saying I "can't stand" her is too strong, but I definitely think she is massively overrated in most ways (except as a businesswoman--she definitely is extraordinary in that way) and highly annoying in yet more ways.

2.  btw, conservatives don't have an exclusive lock on valuing "personal responsibility".  


OK, maybe that would be the miracle that redeems Oprah, bringing all of us together... and would I have to like her for that??

Sweetie, I wasn't talking about political conservatism.  Again, you wrongly assume that I am a political conservative (i.e., republican).  It's ok, but I'm not.  Also, I wasn't noting that conservatives had 'an exclusive lock on valuing "personal responsibility".  I was soley talking about Oprah.  

Regardless, I'd love it if human beings were able to experiment with the BTD/GTD, but I don't think that this will happen on a mainstream level because - IMHO - people don't like to have personal responsibility in their circumstances.  


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I'm glad to see my post started a lively discussion. I voted no myself because the diet is intricate and compliance may never be great. Responding to OSuzanna, a benchmark for mainstream would be an awareness of the diet that parallels the awareness of vegetarianism and a much greater level of acceptance among conventional doctors. I see 3/4 of respondents said no to this question and I agree that something more than Oprah or Dr. Oz would have to happen. For example, if a huge chain restaurant changed all their chicken sandwiches to turkey sandwiches and served them on spelt bread and they tasted as good as the chicken sandwiches, people would eat them without question. I understand why Dr. D hasn't licensed his name to food companies, but some more blood type convenience foods would help compliance and mainstreaming the diet. I want more people to find this diet and try it so they can reap the rewards. I even believe there is a shift in viewpoint when you realize you, as an individual, will thrive by eating a high-quality diet, specific to you.


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Quoted from BohemianChris
I'm glad to see my post started a lively discussion. I voted no myself because the diet is intricate and compliance may never be great. Responding to OSuzanna, a benchmark for mainstream would be an awareness of the diet that parallels the awareness of vegetarianism and a much greater level of acceptance among conventional doctors. I see 3/4 of respondents said no to this question and I agree that something more than Oprah or Dr. Oz would have to happen. For example, if a huge chain restaurant changed all their chicken sandwiches to turkey sandwiches and served them on spelt bread and they tasted as good as the chicken sandwiches, people would eat them without question. I understand why Dr. D hasn't licensed his name to food companies, but some more blood type convenience foods would help compliance and mainstreaming the diet. I want more people to find this diet and try it so they can reap the rewards. I even believe there is a shift in viewpoint when you realize you, as an individual, will thrive by eating a high-quality diet, specific to you.


I like your post Bohemian Chris. Anything that could help the mainstream get better health is good in my view and this would even mean tolerating a high profile media personality jumping on board. But as the majority of the world's population are hungry and without resources, it is hard to see how it will infiltrate to where it is desperately needed. It takes a society with technological resources to apply this diet. Where would we all be without books and computers and blood tests? It would be very helpful if scientists could survey populations and discover the predominant genotypes therein, for generalized suggestions as to local diet.Maybe this will happen later this century.Looking at the desperate state of the planet, and the food shortages and relative uses of water for raising meat and vegetables/grains/fruits it would seem that the planet will have to move more towards a vegetarian diet in future. This will of course suit some genotypes better than others and makes me wonder if it will show up in evolutionary terms as survival of some genotypes over others?





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