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Lola
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good point!
first find out his bloodtype!


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I bought two tests from the EU Blood Type store in preparation for exactly this situation. Now I just have to get him to agree to sit and down and have a sharp thing poked into his finger (again!). I think he's scared of finding out his blood type/genotype because he's going to have to rethink his diet... I don't think he's very comfortable with dietary changes! He's a cancer and very fond of his kitchen, cooking, and familiar things of the homestead.

It was so much simpler when we were convinced we were both Os. But then again, I'm so much healthier, I want to spread the good feeling  


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I'm too tall to be a Teacher...my index fingers are too short... and I have the dreaded arch....


just to add to your pondering...5'10" teacher here.    There are a number of us tall ones!  And it is possible to be one with shorter index fingers on both hands.  And if by arches you mean finger prints...I've got a couple of those too.    So you never know! *lol*

You are lucky to be getting tested by the experts, so you will KNOW for sure!  Looking fwd to seeing how it turns out!


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Gumby! I was really starting to accept my Warriorness! Are you sure you measured right?  Your index fingers are longer?  I thought mine were too, but they measured differently at the clinic and my ring fingers are longer. I screwed up my measuring.

I also thought that arches were prevelant in Warriors only..hmmm. On page 45, I don't fit the Warrior description in the second paragraph.

I have long limbs and you can see my tendons at my wrists, I am also a Taster... (Teacher?)

AAAHHH! This is driving me nuts!
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I would take advantage of the free week you get at the GTD site and use the calculators there!
meal plans and so much more!

you might not even want to leave!


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Thank you Lola.  I'll muse on it.  
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Gumby! I was really starting to accept my Warriorness! Are you sure you measured right?  Your index fingers are longer?  I thought mine were too, but they measured differently at the clinic and my ring fingers are longer. I screwed up my measuring.

I also thought that arches were prevelant in Warriors only..hmmm. On page 45, I don't fit the Warrior description in the second paragraph.

I have long limbs and you can see my tendons at my wrists, I am also a Taster... (Teacher?)

AAAHHH! This is driving me nuts!


*lol*  In the advanced calculator, if your torso and upper leg are longer, and you are an A+sec, then your finger lengths don't matter...no matter what they are, you can only be a teacher.  And if your torso and lower leg are longer, and your ring fingers are both longer or one of each...also a teacher. So...you could be one of us after all!     On charts 3 and 4, if both your rings are longer, you are a Warrior.  Both diets look pretty good to me.

And if I were you, I would wait until you get your results before using your free week on the gtd site.  That way you can focus on the info that you know you will need.  I figure Drs C and D are better than the gtd online calculator at typing you.

You have gotten me very curious as to how you are going to 'turn out'!  When is your next appt again?????


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I do love cheese  . I find it hard to keep from eating it...I just refuse to eat a goat. They are too cute, with those little floppy ears...and that cute little face...   Aren't Teachers supposed to have a big head or a broad head? Do you have a large-ish head? I have head issues..

Dr. C. didn't mention if my torso was longer, only that my upper thigh was longer..I'm still confused. Mostly because I screwed up my measurements. It's so much nicer having an expert measure you. Takes the stress out of it.

I was planning on waiting until I got diagnosed for sure before I used the Genotype website.  I go on April 3rd! I hope I can have the new print out he prototyped on his blog.
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Mayflowers, I'm starting to doubt my own measurements now because I too am a taster and
Warriors aren't supposed to be tasters are they.  And I CAN see my tendons on my wrists, but they aren't bulging.  And I'm confused about the term "see" my tendons, because they aren't poking up very much....just obvious to me that I have wrist tendons.  I think Teachers have a broad forehead?
My forehead is not narrow...but to call it broad?  Not sure if I can determine that for sure.  I
think my head is long...which is a sign of the Warrior.

It's my leg measurements that appear almost equal...

YIKES.. I hope I haven't spent 3 months on the wrong diet.  Why is it so difficult to type some of us?

Personality-wise, I'm not like a teacher at all. I'm NOT generally a calm person. (unless there
are no people around me)  !

I would have a huge problem on the Teacher diet if I were having to eat cheese.  Dairy allergies.  But I'd certainly love to make myself eat cheese than so many beans and so much fish. I LOVE cheese too.  It doesn't love me!


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Quoted from Chloe
Mayflowers, I'm starting to doubt my own measurements now because I too am a taster and
Warriors aren't supposed to be tasters are they.  And I CAN see my tendons on my wrists, but they aren't bulging.  And I'm confused about the term "see" my tendons, because they aren't poking up very much....just obvious to me that I have wrist tendons.  I think Teachers have a broad forehead?
My forehead is not narrow...but to call it broad?  Not sure if I can determine that for sure.  I
think my head is long...which is a sign of the Warrior.

It's my leg measurements that appear almost equal...

YIKES.. I hope I haven't spent 3 months on the wrong diet.  Why is it so difficult to type some of us?

Personality-wise, I'm not like a teacher at all. I'm NOT generally a calm person. (unless there
are no people around me)  !

I would have a huge problem on the Teacher diet if I were having to eat cheese.  Dairy allergies.  But I'd certainly love to make myself eat cheese than so many beans and so much fish. I LOVE cheese too.  It doesn't love me!


Hey Chole,
Do you live far from the clinic? Might be worth it to go. I can see my tendons on my wrist and if I bend my wrist a certain way, they pop up more. Does yours? I also have a long head, but it's small and I have a high forehead. Does that count as a broad forehead?  I tested dairy intolerant,(but my question is, is the intolerance caused by not eating the correct BTD/GTD foods, and having a general imbalance?)  My favorite is jarslberg which happens to be on the super list. (sigh)

I measured the same as you did, the legs were the same leg top and bottom. Dr. C. measured the top longer!  

Hey don't feel bad, I've been switching back and forth from the Warrior to the Teacher diet. I can't tell which one is better..I told Dr. C that too.

One thing that really bothers me is that we can't have vinegar. I'm allergic to oranges and lemons so I can't use them as a replacement. Grapefruit juice is horrible. I can't get past the bitter to get to the sour. Makes lousy dressing. My last hope is a pineapple juice concoction if I can put one together. Any suggestions would help.
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Mayflowers, are you a calm person?  And is your immune system tolerant?  This is where I
am NOT a Teacher. Now, how about that space between your legs?   Do you have a wide
gap in the upper part of your leg?  I don't.  My upper legs touch. The fact that Warriors should tolerate chocolate and coffee and I don't is just one of my issues, but the fact that I would need to tolerate cheese or eggs is another major problem.  As for thinking you wouldn't be dairy
intolerant if you ate the correct BTD/GTD foods,  maybe for you it's a possibility....From my experience, it hasn't been the case.  Three months on the Warrior diet and eating dairy as many times as I could tolerate trying it, each and every time, I reacted.  A delayed reaction for dairy...withdrawal headaches the day after not eating it. (after eating it)  

Today I tried eggs...I barely cooked them on a low flame...It took me less than 4 hours to develop the worst headache I can possibly describe....muscle tightness....blurry vision...and this awful itching and burning in my eyes.  By the end of the day, my nose was completely stuffed. I can't eat eggs~

As for oranges and lemons, I'm not allergic to either but I don't like sour flavors.  Grapefruit
is often too sour unless it's red.

I have a high forehead too, but I don't think that counts as broad.  Broad, I think means wide
across compared to  the length.  My head is long and not small.

I'm a prop taster and Warriors generally aren't.  If there was a major exception to the
Explorer type, I think that's where I'd belong.  My immune system is NOT tolerant.  Yet
in the Warrior column, I tend to have problems detoxing environmental chemicals.

I live about an hour from the clinic.  I'm still waiting to hear your results before I decide
to go further with the genotype diet at all.  If I could chose any of the 6 genotypes to be
I still think the type A diet suited me better.  


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Hi Chloe,
  I think I'm a calm person. I don't understand the meaning of a tolerant immune system? I think I'm pretty healthy, but I take vitamins.
I don't have a large opening in my upper thighs. They touch also.
I thought that if one goes to the clinic, they get a diet more individualized to them instead of the generalized one in the book.
I'm not big on sour or salty flavors either. I have a sweet tooth.
I guess every one is different. We all have our own intlerances.

You can always go back to the blood type diet and see if you feel  any better..

I guess I'll find out soon. Dr. D. probably already looked at my chart and decided..suspense..
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I thought that if one goes to the clinic, they get a diet more individualized to them instead of the generalized one in the book.

true, it s the GTD SWAMI
http://www.dadamo.com/wordpress/?p=111


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I don't understand the meaning of a tolerant immune system? I think I'm pretty healthy, but I take vitamins.


In GTD terms, it means that teacher immune systems are too nice to germs *lol*.  They are more prone to catching this or that because the immune system lets in all sorts of germs...difficulty identifying good from bad and slow to activate.  It is really well explained in the book.

Dairy allergy...me too!  I have yet to try any of the super cheeses, except the sheep ones.  Those seem to be ok.  Cow dairy, forget it.  But, I hope that as my gut gets the hang of things, it might improve.   My ND seems to think it will, given enough time and care.  So there is hope!


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Oh and forgot to add...and you probably know this already...but none of the strength testing features include or exclude you from a genotype.  There is a wide range within a GT, so not everything will match.  As for the head thing...I think the common trait for teachers is square jaw and face.  I am neither of those...I have a giant and long head !  Well ok giant might be pushing it...but it is bigger than most people's.  And definitely long.  I look like a tall mushroom in a bike helmet.


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Oh and forgot to add...and you probably know this already...but none of the strength testing features include or exclude you from a genotype.  There is a wide range within a GT, so not everything will match.  As for the head thing...I think the common trait for teachers is square jaw and face.  I am neither of those...I have a giant and long head !  Well ok giant might be pushing it...but it is bigger than most people's.  And definitely long.  I look like a tall mushroom in a bike helmet.


Then what are the strength tests that made you know for sure you were a teacher?

My ring fingers measure the same on both hands...longer than index.  My legs measure just about the same length (top half and bottom half)  My head is long and jaw
isn't square.  I'm a taster. I seem to strength test mostly Warrior but also some Teacher,
yet I'm not calm at all and allergic and chemically sensitive.  I feel less chemically sensitive on the Warrior diet but just as allergic to eggs. Dairy gives me withdrawal headaches.

I was almost positive I was a Warrior until I see how many people  seem to overlap other genotypes.



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According to the book, it is your torso/leg, upper leg/lower leg, ring/index finger ratios, and your blood type, rh factor, and secretor status that are the determining factors.  The other calculators and strength tests are there for people typing at home who might not know their blood info.  Of course they may have some other things they look at at the clinic, when it is an 'in person' typing...so it will be interesting to see how Diana comes out!

It was not too hard for me because my measurements were pretty clear, and I know my bt info.  

I went through and did every strength test, just for fun.   I scored lowest on teacher lol even though that is what I am.  Good thing I had my measurements to rely on.  The strength test for teacher was mostly physical questions.  I am very much teacher like in the psycological, biochemical, and personality stuff.  I think I do have some of the physical characteristics too...just not ones that gave points in the strength test lol!


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Chloe, that might be the tipoff. "you feel less chemically sensitive on the Warrior diet" so maybe it's the right diet?  Have you tried the Teacher diet?

Thanks Gumby on the Teacher immune system. It's hard because I take a lot of vitamins..I probably would have caught people's colds in my office if I didn't know about elderberry tea. So I haven't had a cold in a couple of years. I didn't ever get the actual flu...I thought it was an "A" thing because flu's are mostly "B" strain..

I think I'm a Warrior. (with a small head) I don't have a square face. It's rather narrow.
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Chloe, that might be the tipoff. "you feel less chemically sensitive on the Warrior diet" so maybe it's the right diet?  Have you tried the Teacher diet?

Thanks Gumby on the Teacher immune system. It's hard because I take a lot of vitamins..I probably would have caught people's colds in my office if I didn't know about elderberry tea. So I haven't had a cold in a couple of years. I didn't ever get the actual flu...I thought it was an "A" thing because flu's are mostly "B" strain..

I think I'm a Warrior. (with a small head) I don't have a square face. It's rather narrow.


I am about 75% sure I'm a Warrior...My face is narrow too..

The reason I didn't try the Teacher diet is that it has more dairy than the Warrior diet which would give me more choices of foods I don't tolerate.  The Warrior diet was described as a Mediterranean type diet which was the most similar to the type A diet and does feel right
about 2/3 of the time. I get unbalanced pretty easily when I do what Spring tried to do..
eat too many meals that are just plant based and try to use beans as protein.  I am truly
better off if fish is my protein and I add lentils or some other legume as a side dish.

Teachers get eggs as diamond foods and eggs are my single worst allergic food.  I had
a meltdown yesterday after eating two eggs and thought my head would explode from pain.
This morning, gunk was gushing out of my eyes and nose.  Finally, it's dissipating.  No more
eggs for me.

The Warrior diet is more do-able for me than the Teacher diet would be.  We are coming
up to the three month point.  I'm not ready to add back any black dot foods.  I might have
to go the full six months before I can accurately evaluate this diet. It's not all wrong..but it
doesn't feel 100% right either.

I'm leaving for Florida on Tuesday for 10 days. Should be interesting being on vacation, away
from home, away from the comfort of my kitchen, the health food store, organic food choices
and the routine I've followed for 11 weeks.  I will just have to do the best I can.  Taking a
mini blender with me...some rice protein powder, powdered green drinks, nuts, dried acai
berries, dried apricots, peaches and will have to fill in the best I can.  Wish me luck. I feel
like I'm going on the TV show "Survivor"...




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Wow Chloe, you really do have an egg allergy.  I only seem to be bothered if I buy the cheap grocery store eggs. I buy Egglands or the cage free (preferred).  This morning I made berry pancakes with soy flour and 1 T oat bran with Splenda..uuuuhhhg   I feel queasy from the Splenda..I ran out of stevia. Not that I feel great eating stevia but it's better on my system than Splenda. I don't know, I was listed as soy, egg and dairy intolerant by Enterolab. I don't notice any affect from soy and eggs and maybe some stuffiness from dairy.

Wow, nice. Florida. My father was raised in West Palm Beach. I'm planning on going when they open Hogwarts next year!! I'm a Harry Potter fan.  

Have fun. You should be ok if you stick to salads and fish right? You might have to bring your own dressing.  Me, I'd be cheating..(only a little  )  Next week I'll be having a senior moment and wonder why you're not posting
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When in doubt about your GT, make a list of foods common to both diets & focus on those.
Remember that we all have allergies/insensitivities that may be on our list. Dairy is on all the GT lists in some form, but I still don't want to try it!

Since you know your blood type & rH factor, you should be able to get the right GT, unless the secretor status makes a difference. In many cases, it doesn't.

FYI, as I have written before, I proved to be a gatherer by a small margin, but have more strength tests for the other O GTs.

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I'm in a similar position to Mrs T O+. I'm definitely a Gatherer - once I'd worked out that my index fingers were longer, I didn't even need my secretor status! I'm very much a Gatherer personnality-wise, with steep ups and downs, a terrible sweet-tooth (read: full-blown additcion to sugar), and the ability to concentrate for a long time. I really recognised myself in the 'early adopter of new ideas' bit, as well.

Physically though, I'm mixed and matched. I scored pretty high on three of the genotype strength testers. I don't put on weight easily and have no trouble dropping pounds with exercise, I tend to have problems with inflamation, I develop and maintain muscle very easily. I can clearly see my wrist tendons. My arms and top half are small-boned and skinny, whereas I've always been quite padded below the belt. It's only after following the Gatherer diet that I'm the same dress size all over - what a nice surprise!

I'm so, so glad that Dr D included the bit about Gatherers being 'naturally padded'. It's been the deciding factor in my finally accepting my strengths and playing to them rather than trying to force myself to be something alien to my nature, and just generally being more accepting to myself (and others, by extension!).


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You go Esmerelda. It's nice to be sure of your Genotype. I thought I was sure...till I found out I screwed up my measuring so..we'll see.

When I was 20, I didn't have trouble maintaining my weight either


I thought the wrist tendon thing was a Teacher attribute? Hmmm.  I was trying the Explorer diet this week. Only lost 1 pound. This next week I'm going back to Warrior and see if I lose more weight.
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Seeing as my mother and I have pretty much identical body types, I'm making assumptions as to what my physical future holds. She hasn't really taken much time to take care of herself in these last few years due to overwhelming amounts of stress, and has passed on the 'in case of stress, reach for sugar' trait to me. Obviously, it's harder for her to lose weight, and I expect it'll be the same for me as I age.

But we do both drop weight fairly easily, both with diet and exercise changes. It's the keeping it off afterwards that's hard! Especially as my father is a fantastic cook, who loves to make cake...

The tendon thing is interesting. My thumb and middle finger also overlap substantially when I circle my wrist, yet I'm most definitely not an ectomorph! Perhaps it's a borrowed trait from my A father. Is that even possible? I mean, I've inherited physical traits from him, even if we're different blood types. Would that maybe influence one's genotype? As in, if my O parent has meat eating ancestors, and my A parent has grain eating ancestors (gross simplification, I know), does that make me more likely to be a meat and grain friendly genotype, such as Gatherer?

This makes for fascinating (but uneducated) pondering...


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I love cake... can't have it...I can say no to ice cream but I love cake...especially Italian pastries..(canolli)and the ones drenched in rum syrup...my favorite cookies are pignolia nut cookies.

I am an A my son is an O and his father is a B. I'd like to know where the O came from.  I thought both my parents were A's.

Hey, I'm part Scottish too! Wonder what that blood is?
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